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Elviscat posted:The hobby balloons are aluminized mylar, I think, which is about the best thing ever for giving huge radar returns. that actually sounds awesome!
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Squarely in the "don't threaten me with a good time" zone.
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Feb 17, 2023 07:15
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Sign me up. Also that hobby club should get invited to the White House imo.
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Feb 17, 2023 07:57
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No wonder the greenies want to ban balloons.Warbird posted:Sign me up. Also that hobby club should get invited to the White House imo. There's definitely precedent for this (Ahmed Mohamed.)
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Feb 17, 2023 07:57
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Wasn’t that the clock kid?
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Feb 17, 2023 08:01
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lol that was dumb as hell. The kid took apart a clock, put the pieces into a pencil case and everyone had to pretend he was a scientific genius after the school had him arrested.
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Feb 17, 2023 08:28
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Elviscat posted:The hobby balloons are aluminized mylar, I think, which is about the best thing ever for giving huge radar returns. Hell yeah my man. Sign me the gently caress up for a free low pass.
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Feb 17, 2023 11:27
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Elviscat posted:The hobby balloons are aluminized mylar, I think, which is about the best thing ever for giving huge radar returns. It's all over, and I'm standing pretty In this dust that was a city
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Feb 17, 2023 11:46
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Elviscat posted:The hobby balloons are aluminized mylar, I think, which is about the best thing ever for giving huge radar returns. Seems better than Israel’s present with the iron dome launches tbh But yea the RCS of a 32” round aluminum Ed balloon is like ~2-3dbsm but I just woke up so didn’t do the math. That’s like…small plane or helicopter territory. If the balloon had a low dielectric constant at the radars frequency like fiberglass then the RCS will be much smaller. CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Feb 17, 2023 |
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Feb 17, 2023 12:04
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hobbesmaster posted:If it was one of these balloons they’re actually exempt from all those requirements because they are not even 6lb. Some radar systems can literally track songbirds. The software is designed to filter out the natural poo poo, ideally while leaving the songbird-sized returns that matter (stealth aircraft).
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Feb 17, 2023 13:22
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Elviscat posted:The hobby balloons are aluminized mylar, I think, which is about the best thing ever for giving huge radar returns. Hey Timmy for your Birthday I got you a F22/F35 flyover! WOoooooo! Merica!
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Feb 17, 2023 13:35
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Some radar systems can literally track songbirds. The software is designed to filter out the natural poo poo, ideally while leaving the songbird-sized returns that matter (stealth aircraft). You'd think you would just look for the starling going 380 knots at 42,000 feet
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Feb 17, 2023 13:39
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Sagebrush posted:You'd think you would just look for the starling going 380 knots at 42,000 feet That’s pretty much how it works, yes. And that’s why the balloons didn’t get picked up. They weren’t moving fast enough.
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Feb 17, 2023 13:45
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Some radar systems can literally track songbirds. The software is designed to filter out the natural poo poo, ideally while leaving the songbird-sized returns that matter (stealth aircraft). While it may be true that the RCS of a stealth aircraft and a bird could be similar, a radar for “tracking” songbirds would probably not be very good at tracking stealth aircraft and vice versa. I’d not infer that because technology is developed to do one well, that it can do the other acceptably too.
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Feb 18, 2023 00:09
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My RADAR when I turn on the nuisance filters:
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Feb 18, 2023 00:30
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It's good birdwatching when you're in an area with a drone defense next to a river system or migration path and you can cue the cameras with the radar.
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Feb 18, 2023 01:17
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 Caproni Ca.60 OR A Terrible Transporter Accident
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Platystemon posted:
It's cool poo poo like that which makes me wish I could go back in time to see them in action
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Feb 18, 2023 12:02
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Humphreys posted:It's cool poo poo like that which makes me wish I could go back in time to see them in action In this case you'd blink and miss the action because it was tested once and destroyed itself in the process.
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Feb 18, 2023 12:50
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"Um, sir, it doesn't seem to be able to fl.." "ADD MORE WINGS!" "But, sir, I don't think that's the prob..." "ADD MORE loving WINGS, WHAT ARE YOU, DEAF?"
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Feb 18, 2023 13:35
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:In this case you'd blink and miss the action because it was tested once and destroyed itself in the process. And I would be there with arms up cheering watching knowing what everyone with a brain knew was gonna happen. Still, we have idiots around these days but Elon sure isn't making a 50 wing seaplane that we gonna see ditch it.
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Feb 18, 2023 14:16
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Humphreys posted:It's cool poo poo like that which makes me wish I could go back in time to see them in action Fortunately, man also invented anime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv8HskEijbA
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Feb 18, 2023 17:57
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Ardeem posted:Fortunately, man also invented anime. Two wrongs don't make a right!
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Feb 18, 2023 18:15
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Elviscat posted:Dunno how to feel about the Dystopian near-future where your kid accidents lets go of their birthday balloon, and 10 minutes later it disappears as the sonic boom from the departing F22 rattles your skull. Zorak of Michigan posted:Squarely in the "don't threaten me with a good time" zone. Vincent Van Goatse posted:In this case you'd blink and miss the action because it was tested once and destroyed itself in the process. Zorak of Michigan posted:Squarely in the "don't threaten me with a good time" zone.
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Platystemon posted:
I like Rex's Hangar for airplane videos, he did one on the Ca. 60 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwa9unx9mpQ
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Feb 18, 2023 19:00
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Elviscat posted:The hobby balloons are aluminized mylar, I think, which is about the best thing ever for giving huge radar returns. NASA thought so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Echo https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/02/nasas-early-inflatable-spacecraft-the-satelloon/71362/
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My Airship Flights by George Meager So some people are sleeping in trenches, Meager is vacationing in Italy and critiquing the Vatican choir while meeting the pope:   Here's a word for you, 'the pellucidly clear water'. Also bit by flies, attack of dysentery:  Flight instruction without language, a blimp survives abandonment and being shot down, taking only a little damage:  It did kill a passer-by though  Lightning strike on the mess:  Cold Snap in southern Italy:  Friends ran out of gas, floated to the Netherlands, were interred   Our man flies in an aeroplane for the first time: 
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Anyone know if there's any way to find out what other planes were part of a formation? On flight radar, the info was blocked, but on ADSB it's listed as a T-34, but it was a formation of six of them. They sounded great with just six of them, makes me wonder what a huge flight of war birds would have sounded like. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ab67cc 
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Feb 19, 2023 22:49
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I think the second and third planes in that formation are T-6 Texans or Harvards.
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Cojawfee posted:Anyone know if there's any way to find out what other planes were part of a formation? On flight radar, the info was blocked, but on ADSB it's listed as a T-34, but it was a formation of six of them. They sounded great with just six of them, makes me wonder what a huge flight of war birds would have sounded like. Not really, unless they broke up and landed separately somewhere. Fornax Disaster posted:I think the second and third planes in that formation are T-6 Texans or Harvards.  The wingmen in the leading V, specifically.
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Looking at it some more I’d say that the left hand wingman in the rear V is probably a T-28 Trojan.
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Elviscat posted:The hobby balloons are aluminized mylar, I think, which is about the best thing ever for giving huge radar returns. I watched some birthday balloons go up today, and kept my eye on each one just in case haha
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hellotoothpaste posted:I watched some birthday balloons go up today, and kept my eye on each one just in case haha You laugh but https://twitter.com/intelwalrus/status/1627471504920158208
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Korea's kf-21 programme is progressing. First flight of the dual seater variant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6RSzcQC0XY Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Feb 20, 2023 |
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Feb 20, 2023 09:57
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I had no idea Koreans were doing that (not that follow it super closely). Seems kind of wild that they're rolling their own rather than just jumping on the F-35 bandwagon, but the more the marrier!
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mobby_6kl posted:I had no idea Koreans were doing that (not that follow it super closely). Seems kind of wild that they're rolling their own rather than just jumping on the F-35 bandwagon, but the more the marrier! Domestic arms production seems to be getting bigger and bigger for Korea and given the neighbors and somewhat uh, weird behaviour of the US over the last 20 years I can't really blame them.
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The US won't sell the F-35 to everyone, there's a large amount of ongoing dependency on the US, the design is compromised by being two planes in one, etc. F-35 gets you advanced and tested tech without the R&D cost+risk, but if you think you can deliver something good there's a lot of attraction to doing so. The US seems to want to treat advanced planes like Hollywood treats movies; rented not bought. Russia is making GBS threads in it's military export industry. Who wants to trust China? European doesn't have any 5th/6th gen fighters at a stage of being sellable. There's a opportunity to squeeze in to the market. Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Feb 20, 2023 |
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Feb 20, 2023 11:19
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Surely they'd sell the F35 to SK? Considering even Turkey was on the list until Erdo poo poo the bed. Of course there are reasons to build a domestic plane too, I'm just a bit surprised they went for it considering how complex and expensive developing a 5th gen fighter is.   ~symbolism~
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I was speaking generally. Korea already have 40 F-35As. They're one of a bunch of countries who have experienced the F-35 programme first hand and seem to have decided they don't want to be dependant on the US for the next gen. UK+Japan+Italy, Korea, Spain+Germany and Turkey are all F-35 operators (or would be in the case of Turkey) who are publicly developing next-gen fighters.
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