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It’s definitely built in to quad movement then. New and final Rec Guide is out! Anyone notice anything about the Viper?
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I am working on my Inner Sphere mechs from the Alpha Strike box. I decided to go with a bit of an inversion of the Sword Sworn color scheme from the Dark Age Clix game because that was my faction. 
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Went down a hole and picked up AGoAC from my LGS. $38 for cost + shipping Now I just have to figure out how to play for our next attempt Saturday
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Feb 18, 2023 23:12
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That's a pretty good deal, I think it typically retails for $60. Actually playing is pretty easy to wrap your head around with the basic rules. One or two rounds and you'll have a firm handle on it.
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Feb 18, 2023 23:30
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Feb 19, 2023 00:06
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Feb 19, 2023 00:22
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Having just gotten the book Alpha Strike seems way, way less of the breezy version of battletech than I was expecting. It almost seems like in squishing granularity out of heat, damage, and weapons systems it just all got glopped onto special exception-based keywords and special abilities you have to reference.
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Feb 19, 2023 00:24
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I like the idea behind Alpha Strike and I'm glad it caught on but its low level of complexity and distinction between units is not quite for me
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Feb 19, 2023 00:36
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Yeah it excises everything that I like in BT. There's just nothing there for me.
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Feb 19, 2023 00:42
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Defiance Industries posted:That's a pretty good deal, I think it typically retails for $60. He's selling at cost since i'm buying in to play with him. We're getting into it together because he wanted to try it and i'm always down for a miniatures game. We did the beginner box last weekend just the 1v1 game and both had fun but we're going to aim for jumping in at the next step saturday
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Defiance Industries posted:Yeah it excises everything that I like in BT. There's just nothing there for me. It got rid of everything that annoys me, but I’m fairly impatient and like my games to be short and minimal/no table lookups. I’m the target audience for the skirmish format in Star Wars: Legion  Speaking of alpha strike, my doomlance is finally painted up!  2x timber wolves (they’ll be an A and W, mostly because those are my initials ), a Summoner H, and a Marauder II-6S. It’s a literal wrecking ball, coming in at over 200 PV before I even start playing with the pilot skills  I wanted a 5th mech in the group, but that shortchanges the other lance in the list (375 PV total), mostly to make a  about a Death Star.
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I played a 3v3 3025 game against my 6 year old this morning. I took a Catapult, a Whitworth, and Hermes. He had a Cicada, a Hunchback, and a Quickdraw. First turn, his Cicada scored a headshot with a medium laser against my Hermes. It was a lucky roll, but these things happen. I punched up the Cicada pretty good with focused fire from my Whitworth and Catapult thanks to their LRMs. He responded in the following turn by pulling back the Cicada and stampeding forward with the Hunchback to deal with the Whitworth who had previously closed to fire with its medium lasers (I try not to play too brutally against him and will intentionally make less than optimal decisions to give him a chance to win). Then he rolled double 6s to hit with his AC/20, then double 6s for the location on my Whitworth. Basically he had rolled three double 6s in a row counting the shot in the previous turn from the Cicada. Absolutely absurd. The game didn't last much longer after that. The Hunchback moved on to the Catapult and rolled Center Torso with the AC/20. The Quickdraw also hit the Center Torso with a variety of medium lasers and SRMs, but rolled snack eyes for the location adding even more criticals. Absolutely absurd. I can't remember what did the Hermes in, but it was probably a stiff breeze blowing wires out of position and starting a fire beneath the cockpit so the pilot died of carbon monoxide poisoning given how my son's luck was going.
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So, fun fact about the new Viper battlemech that appeared in Rec Guide 32 Yuuuuuup, the Viper is the image used for the old pre-CGL record sheets back in the day.
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Feb 19, 2023 14:07
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Huh. I always assumed that was the Crusader.
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Rorahusky posted:So, fun fact about the new Viper battlemech that appeared in Rec Guide 32 Was gonna mention that mech. Blazers and Clan lasers coexisting on one mech (for one of the variants) is... an interesting choice. I might try taking it out next time I play, though; it'll at least give me a use for the Crusader I painted. Nice that it got a SW version even if it's "just" a weird zero ammo Grasshopper there.
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I have finished painting my Alpha Strike box.  Command Lance   Recon Lance   As usual, I keep it simple and to a basic tabletop standard, but I am pretty happy with the results here. They're clearly stompy robots and now I can proudly demo the game for anyone interested.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Huh. I always assumed that was the Crusader. That's the joke in universe behind the Viper too. It's a slightly upscaled Crusader chassis (70 tons vs 65 tons) that was only ever in production for a short period of time during the lull between the 1st and 2nd Succession War during times when Crusader sales dipped, so everyone just assumes it's a Crusader variant to the point that by the 4th Succession War, all the warbooks and targeting software just assumed it was.
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Painted my first battlemech! 13-year old me would be awfully excited, I was only ever able to play with unpainted stuff when I was young.  
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Okay, it plays a fair bit quicker than CBT at the same unit scale. Low key making it so the default assumes your moving your guys and you get a bonus for staying still leads to less whiffs at 4 skill level vs gunnery 4.   
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Looks like you had fun. It's great for big big battles, but in our campaign I play Zell so hard that we usually bid down to manageable-by-CBT forces. I've lost a lot TheDiceMustRoll fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Feb 19, 2023 |
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Rorahusky posted:That's the joke in universe behind the Viper too. It's a slightly upscaled Crusader chassis (70 tons vs 65 tons) that was only ever in production for a short period of time during the lull between the 1st and 2nd Succession War during times when Crusader sales dipped, so everyone just assumes it's a Crusader variant to the point that by the 4th Succession War, all the warbooks and targeting software just assumed it was. The new art looks great too! The horn’s pretty impressive-looking, in the Char’s Command Zaku kind of way.
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I’m sorry because I know this has been asked quite a few times I imagine - where could I get good decals, maybe even unit-specific ones for Lyran Guards? I’ve found xDefiance Industries on Etsy but I wanted to check with the goon minds.
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Feb 20, 2023 00:01
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Fighting Pirahna are the licenced decal sellers. I would be very surprised if you can't find exactly what you're looking for there.
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Aries Games and Miniatures has a selection of FPG decals if you prefer dealing with an actual storefront and not emailing someone what you want.
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Arquinsiel posted:Fighting Pirahna are the licenced decal sellers. I would be very surprised if you can't find exactly what you're looking for there. I highly recommend FPG, they're treated me really well in the past.
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That’s perfect, thank you. I’ll order from them ASAP.
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If Aries are easier to deal with and carry their stock then go with them. My group at home used to be weirdos that'd wait for a while and order like $100 worth of decals all at once for various projects.
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I recently ordered some decals from them and they were prompt and accurate will order again.
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Rorahusky posted:So, fun fact about the new Viper battlemech that appeared in Rec Guide 32 I'm sad we didn't get an Invid Invasion Alpha or Beta fighter.
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Bmac32 posted:I'm sad we didn't get an Invid Invasion Alpha or Beta fighter. One of the weird things about the Alpha was that it was literally like 2/3 the size of the original Veritechs.
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The correct way to use the Viper is to hand-fill a photocopied original-style record sheet from the Battletech Compendium or similar old rulebook
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Jcam posted:Painted my first battlemech! 13-year old me would be awfully excited, I was only ever able to play with unpainted stuff when I was young. Hey that's pretty good for a first time! Have you painted minis before? You seem to have a solid awareness of highlighting spots and color.
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Marx Headroom posted:Hey that's pretty good for a first time! Have you painted minis before? You seem to have a solid awareness of highlighting spots and color. Thanks! I paint miniatures from a couple of other games but I’ve never painted miniatures at this scale. Creating a sense of size and depth on these models is so different than a single trooper or monster.
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So having reread Tamar Rising, I decided to give some thoughts on as to where the various minor powers in the Falcon OZ will probably end up going forward. Tamar Pact: I can see the Tamar Pact sticking around for the foreseeable future, even though the Lyrans have it out for Regis for defecting. The rise of the new Tamar Pact has probably reawakened a lot of long buried nationalism for those descended from the Pact's worlds, and if the Archon were to move on them, there's a risk that these sympathies will ignite into full blown patriotism and prompt former Tamar worlds still in the Lyran's sphere of influence to try and break away and join the Pact. That could spoil any attempts by the Steiners to retake the worlds and prompt another succession crisis, something Trillian is probably keenly aware of and thus causing her to stay her hand. Jiyi's Jade Falcons: Reabsorption into the Jade Falcons Proper is probably going to be the end point for Jiyi. At some point the Terran piece of the Clan is going to have to address the elephant in the room, plus they need to rebuild their forces. I imagine the initial meeting will probably be tense, but once Jiyi realizes that the reformed Jade Falcons have resoundly rejected Malvina's insanity, he'll probably be far more open to rejoining via a proper Trial. Should he survive, I can imagine him ascending the ranks thanks to his flexible thinking, possibly even to the rank of saKhan or Khan one day. Vesper Marches: If there is any faction introduced that has Dead Man Walking written on it, it's the Marches. Brewer is too much of a known agent to everyone to be left alone, plus there's the big wrinkle in his new nation that several worlds that joined it /thought/ they were rejoining the Commonwealth and that Vedet's forces were just the tip of the Lyran's spear. That could lead to some pretty hefty civil dissent when they find out that they just agreed to join an entirely new nation opposed to the home they wish to return to... and if Trillian finds out this fact, it wouldn't be hard to whip the Lyran state into a frenzy by painting Vedet as a treasonous snake who has tricked these worlds into betraying their ancestral state. That said, should Trillian (or some idiot Social General, which is more likely) trigger the ticking timebomb that is the Tamar Pact above, than attempts to retake the Marches would be greatly slowed, and I could definitely see Brewer escaping yet again from his doomed nation while Trillian is busy trying to keep the entire Tamar region from bursting into flames. AML: Not quite sure about this one. On one hand, the AML has ties to both the foxes as well as several other powers in the region. Could end up absorbed into the Foxes, could end up surviving as its own minor power, or they could be crushed entirely by one of the larger neighbors. The fact that their militia is run by an idiot who wouldn't know proper tactics if it ran up and slapped him in the face does not bode well for the AML's future, truth be told. Arc-Royal Liberation Coalition: The other big wild card of the bunch, I genuinely don't know what the eventual fate of the ARLC will be, partly because of just how volatile its leadership is. Callandre is not exactly what you would call predictable, and the Hounds are one of the groups that tends to be loved by the writers given how often we've seen them ravaged and rebuilt.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I am working on my Inner Sphere mechs from the Alpha Strike box. I decided to go with a bit of an inversion of the Sword Sworn color scheme from the Dark Age Clix game because that was my faction. Whatup fellow SwordSworn fan. Got a company of Swordies painted up so far, 2 more companies only primed. Going to name each company after a type of sword (Foil Company for the lights, Sabre for Mediums, Cuirassier for the Heavies and Assault Company.) I'm currently working my way through the Death from Above series of Alpha Strike introduction videos. I'm really liking what I'm seeing, looks like an easy jump from clix to Alpha Strike. Haven't gotten to advanced rulesets yet, only thing I'm wondering about is why heat seems to play such a small role (Only used so far if one OV's for extra damage). Back in clix, heat was a huge deal like in tabletop, even simple moves generated heat, so you had to be really strategic when you gave your 'mechs orders. Rorahusky posted:Jiyi's Jade Falcons: Reabsorption into the Jade Falcons Proper is probably going to be the end point for Jiyi. At some point the Terran piece of the Clan is going to have to address the elephant in the room, plus they need to rebuild their forces. I imagine the initial meeting will probably be tense, but once Jiyi realizes that the reformed Jade Falcons have resoundly rejected Malvina's insanity, he'll probably be far more open to rejoining via a proper Trial. Should he survive, I can imagine him ascending the ranks thanks to his flexible thinking, possibly even to the rank of saKhan or Khan one day. I think if anything it'll be the opposite. Most of the Jade Falcons on Terra probably are still mad at Wolves winning, defecting and joining Jiyi once they realize there's a protostate of survivors just makes more sense. Also gives Tara Campbell an excuse to get out of dodge. Crazy Joe Wilson fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Feb 20, 2023 |
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At the company/binary/whatever scale of abstraction and tracking, I think it's probably wise AS assumes every pilot is managing their heat reasonably well unless they're doing a full send mashing the button for every laser at once. Engine crits cause you to generate heat just from shooting, and I think flamer loaded guys still cause OH levels with a special ability, but we didn't run them. Amusingly, my kid is the bigger grognard and strongly prefers the granularity of CBT, while I can see the fun of both after our intro game.
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Whatup fellow SwordSworn fan. Got a company of Swordies painted up so far, 2 more companies only primed. Going to name each company after a type of sword (Foil Company for the lights, Sabre for Mediums, Cuirassier for the Heavies and Assault Company.)  about it, replace Épée with Claybeg and watch people get confused.
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Not Zweihander? I guess that would be a more Steiner thing, the Zweihander Recon Company. Speaking of unit organization, I've decided the last company of my SLDF Combined Arms Battallion project will be units of vehicles and infantry: One LRM carrier lance, one Demolisher tank lance, one Thor Mobile Artillery lance, and 4 stands of infantry. I'd like to do them as Battle Armor Infantry but my Sarna/MUL searches are failing to find them at the right vintage, most stuff is post 30th century (and in response to seeing Toads rip poo poo up in the invasion one assumes). My leading idea is Nighthawk power armor, which I was able to source STLs for but after reviewing the wiki looks like it was in limited runs for secret squirrel special ops stuff, not fielded as part of a combat unit. That's not too much of a Lorehead impediment if I want to run with it, but was there something more ubiquitous? Or was it really just a monkey-see-monkey-do response to elementals? Would it make more sense just to make them like, unarmored jump troops for a late SLDF force? Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Feb 20, 2023 |
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The SLDF were only just barely touching on power armor when the Coup started. They were generally against finding ways to make infantry more dangerous to their giant robots because carting around a regiments of giant robots is pretty easy but the number of infantry it takes to seige and conquer a planet is comically uneconomical. BattleArmor really only took off after the Clan invasion, and even then the Elemental itself is so accidentally optimized it's nearly impossible to design a better suit of 1-ton power armor. 
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