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OwlFancier posted:Hopefully the whole thing will shake out just bringing more attention to this cool game. Obviously an extremely small sample but in some of the news comments I’ve seen a lot of “drat, never heard about this game and now I’m pissed I can’t buy it immediately” so maybe a good from the bad, yeah.
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The dickhead Streisand effected our wierd but fun commie game
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I can only hope that they can sue for actual damages
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Anime Store Adventure posted:Obviously an extremely small sample but in some of the news comments I’ve seen a lot of “drat, never heard about this game and now I’m pissed I can’t buy it immediately” so maybe a good from the bad, yeah. boy are they in for a ride
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Wolfy posted:I saw one person say, "sounds like a more serious version of tropico." This is very technically true but tropico just makes the numbers fairly easy but obfuscates how to improve logistics and things heavily. I swear it has a fairly deep production and logistics system just without enough clarity and knobs to play with it. I agree with you though lol. That said, the Tropico series was probably one of my most consistently played games before I sunk my game-life into this, so maybe he’ll find the same spark.
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I don't think there's anything incorrect with the comparison to tropico, just that learning W&R is like hitting a brick wall, repeatedly.
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Workers and Resources is Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe Tropico.
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Tropico 1 was the best tropico. Nothing after it captured that je ne sais quoi
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Tropico 1 was the best tropico. Nothing after it captured that je ne sais quoi 
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This is the first time I've experimented with a gas power plant, and I can't get the oil to flow from the storage tank into it. Surely I don't need to put a pump between them? They're right next to each other, and the tank is slightly up a hill. E: And the tank has power too.
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Pharnakes posted:This is the first time I've experimented with a gas power plant, and I can't get the oil to flow from the storage tank into it. Surely I don't need to put a pump between them? They're right next to each other, and the tank is slightly up a hill. I haven't used a gas power plant before but as a general rule, you only need pumps between storages, not between storages and production or consumption facilities.
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There’s an odd behavior if you don’t use a pump. A pump pushes oil into the input storage and fills it up. I think, but could be wrong, if you don’t have a pump what will happen is the power plant will “pull” oil from the storage. It’ll never fill up and always appear to be empty, because it only ever pulls what it immediately uses. Also make sure you’re using oil and not fuel.
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Right, liquid like oil will simply equalize between storages without pumping, whereas pumps will drain via pull from sources, and push to all storages. You probably do want to have a pump into the power plant unless you'll consistently have full tanks; I usually set up my oil fields by using a pump with priority to serve oil to the plant first, then to general storage when that's full. I may have one storage with the plant as an extended buffer, but I generally have more pumping than the power plant can process so it's usually fine. I don't think height matters for oil/fuel/etc, unless that's changed and I didn't realize.
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Does it require water?
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It is the same behaviour for aggregate storage connected to coal plants, if you just connect the directly then the storage will fill and the plant will draw from it as needed, but it won't actively push to the plant storage. If you put a conveyor tower between them it will pull from the aggregate and push it to fill the plant storage. Except, I think if you unload trucks directly at the aggregate storage, it might actually then push some of that into the plant as well. But yeah generally if you don't use a "pump-like" object to connect extra storage to a factory that uses the resource, it won't actively fill the factory from the storage, but the factory can still run using those resources.
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Presumably the only issue with not having a pump between your oil storage and your power plant is you lose that buffer storage inside the plant. Nothing bad happens until there's some interruption to the oil supply - say there's a fire at a pump station further upstream at the same time a train is filling up on oil, and then the tank runs out and you might have a power outage.
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Yeah there isn't an issue with it that I am aware of, it just basically turns the external storage into the storage for the plant.
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So the guy who request the game be removed from Steam posted an update today.quote:Thank you 3DIVISION for doing what you agreed to do months ago. I am glad you understand you would have avoided all the suffering you caused the community. So it sounds like the game may be coming back to Steam. I doubt we'll ever know the full story but the guy seems like a total tool.
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What a loving chud.
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That person has to be a troll. That ‘update’ triggers every rage button I have.
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Hopefully he is credited as "useless rear end in a top hat"
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Genuinely do not understand how this has possibly gone on for so long.
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SettingSun posted:That person has to be a troll. That ‘update’ triggers every rage button I have. It's truly amazing how true this is for me too. I don't know how people get like this.
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Hopefully someone drowns him in nuisance suits by claiming intellectual ownership of his car
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Hopefully someone drowns him in nuisance suits by claiming intellectual ownership of his car "You wouldn't claim infringement on copyright to a car..."
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Honestly as quickly as it was apparently resolved I’m surprised it didn’t last longer.
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Gonna downvote spam every mod they have in the workshop to make myself feel better. Weird that it sounds like a complete capitulation by 3division but maybe they decided it was easier/cheaper to put the moron's name in the credits. Lotta lawyer speak coming at them from a country on the other side of the planet.
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That feels a lot like 3Division just didn't have the money/access to fight him in an American court and took the path of least resistance.
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I wonder also if the DMCA just expired today and he's getting out ahead of it?
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Anime Store Adventure posted:I wonder also if the DMCA just expired today and he's getting out ahead of it? That would be nice. We'll see if there's any update from 3Division. Do DMCAs even expire, though? I don't know anything about that.
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Anime Store Adventure posted:I wonder also if the DMCA just expired today and he's getting out ahead of it? I read speculation along these lines and it's the version of events I choose to believe. Log082 posted:That would be nice. We'll see if there's any update from 3Division. Do DMCAs even expire, though? I don't know anything about that. Party A files DMCA. Valve removes store page. Party B files counter-claim. Party A has <period of time> in order to file a lawsuit, or the DMCA claim is removed. IANAL but that's what I understand the process to be?
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Log082 posted:That would be nice. We'll see if there's any update from 3Division. Do DMCAs even expire, though? I don't know anything about that. iirc they have 2 weeks after the takedown to follow up with a proper lawsuit, otherwise the content goes back up
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He's probably blowing hot air but I guess we will see if they put his name in the credits and if they post a "retraction" of their previous post. My guess is they just went the path of least resistance to get their game back on the Steam store. Hopefully the guy didn't actually get paid anything.
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Until the devs put out an update and the game is actually reinstated to the store, the guy is just exploiting being the first to say something, true or otherwise.
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Watch this guy just be lying about coming to an agreement with 3D, posts that they totally agreed to put him in the credits guys. Game store page goes live again tomorrow, it's clear they didn't put his name in the credits, he DMCA's again.
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Hmmm... it just struck me that what he's been wishing for and will now get, is to have his name in the credits. As in his actual real legal and identifiable name. Making it guaranteed that every search engine for all time will connect him to his bullshit. He doxxed himself.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Hmmm... it just struck me that what he's been wishing for and will now get, is to have his name in the credits. As in his actual real legal and identifiable name. Making it guaranteed that every search engine for all time will connect him to his bullshit. Not necessarily, he could just get his handle put it.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:He doxxed himself. You should look at his Steam profile. What sane person lists their full loving name and city in their profile, I have no idea. Then again, what sane person DMCA's a game because he thinks he owns it for writing a tutorial...
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Hopefully the credits have a "special thanks" section and a "no thanks" section with only his name in it.
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