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Anyone remember the promises made by people with similar religious views, during the US Supreme Court hearings, when they all swore under oath that they had no intention of going anywhere near Roe v Wade ? I'd give her assurances the same weight..
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 16:45 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 16:29 |
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Like I said, I don't believe her, certainly not to the point where I would not simply vote for someone who has better thoughts, but the interview style is utter dogshit for baby brain journalists who operate like phone menu systems.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 16:46 |
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/skippy_0h/status/1628001973193637888?s=46&t=Su0XL_8lbFN4oUmDXVLsHQ It's the story of how the Jews got jumped into being white, along with the Irish and the Italians.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 16:59 |
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Reveilled posted:It was weirdly sad, especially contrasted with that other article about the taliban fighters who are utterly miserable because they had to transition into office life without the brainwashing. Sounds like the end of The Shield
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 17:16 |
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https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/1628024482530041861 You know I'm starting to wonder if these people weren't being honest about their views on bigotry.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 17:26 |
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I'm sure we can definitely trust the politician who has already said she'd vote against gay marriage and said some incredibly sus things about exemptions to conversation therapy bans to keep her personal morality to herself
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 17:34 |
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I like my politicians amoral, personally. Then you know they’re just doing whatever makes them and their friends the most money and all the damage they’re doing to the vulnerable on the way is just a happy accident, rather than targeted persecution for persecution’s sake.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 17:37 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/1628024482530041861 ....Okay, so you don't think people should be judged for their religious beliefs. But you do think it's okay for the (possible) Scottish First Minister to be basically telling your own child that "they are wrong for existing."
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 17:48 |
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"we are essentially driving out religious conservatives from leadership" Poggers
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 17:51 |
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There is a weird presumption that people should vote for politicians who admit they have beliefs that the voter does not like, as long as they claim they won't act on them. But there is no explanation for why they shouldn't just vote for politicians who hold beliefs the voter agrees with? If your beliefs just aren't market competitive then why would they win elections? The complaint doesn't seem to be coherently about the framing of the interview but specifically that people might not vote for her if she says that. Which uh... tough poo poo?
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 17:52 |
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https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/1628024875766931458?s=20 Ah I see. So really Corbyn should have said "I hate the Jews, personally, but I promise to do nothing about it as its not a popular view" and Sunny would have been fine with it. Incredible posting.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 17:53 |
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I would ensure that people with unpopular, socially illiberal positions cannot effect changes in the law, by not voting for them
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 17:55 |
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:I would ensure that people with unpopular, socially illiberal positions cannot effect changes in the law, by not voting for them Bigot extremist! Kill them!
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 18:03 |
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love to point out how bad it is that people won't vote for someone with unpopular views
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 19:10 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/1628024875766931458?s=20
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 19:13 |
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You cannot prove that corbyn would not have decapitated the queen with a curvy foreign sword if he had won. You CAN NOT prove it.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 19:19 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/1628024875766931458?s=20 https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/1628029027502985216 And what will you do when the racists say "Sunny Hundal looks foreign and shouldn't be allowed to express anything" Sunny?
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 19:24 |
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Rational Hitler
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 19:55 |
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Well the question of whether a politician is able to effectively advocate for policy that's entirely contradictory to their personal faith comes down to how much faith you have in that individual politician. Thus, since both are questions of faith, neither of them can affect policy, rendering the objection moot. Moot I say
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 19:55 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/1628024875766931458?s=20 That's one sizzling steamer of a take right there jesus
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 19:58 |
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Such bizarre thinking... Like, the whole point of democracy is that the people elect politicians that will represent their views. If, in general, peoples views are contrary to those of religious politicians, then, well, sucks to be them. Democracy is doing its job.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 20:06 |
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Guavanaut posted:Just a perfectly spherical liberal. I was pleased to see the Paradox of Tolerance comic posted in the replies... and less pleased that he took from it "this refers only to literal Nazis"
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 20:14 |
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"Can I offer you some apples?" asked the tree eagerly. "gently caress off, you goddamn Nazi," said the child. The racist tree was upset, because while it was very racist, it did not personally subscribe to Hitler's fascist ideology. The Perfect Element posted:Such bizarre thinking... Like, the whole point of democracy is that the people elect politicians that will represent their views. If, in general, peoples views are contrary to those of religious politicians, then, well, sucks to be them. Democracy is doing its job. It's important that this only works in one direction though. The rabidly intolerant fringe church doesn't have to support you or your existence at all and you can't complain about that because freedom.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 20:18 |
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OwlFancier posted:There is a weird presumption that people should vote for politicians who admit they have beliefs that the voter does not like, as long as they claim they won't act on them. Then something happened that no one expected. The SNP membership voted for Forbes anyway. And no one - not the media, or the party elite - could explain it. I just felt that paragraph had the cadence of an Adam Curtis thing
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 20:19 |
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The ideal society is one that is constantly skirting the border of nazism but does not actually enact it. And presumably the ideal politician is one which believes all the worst things but never actually does them, because this shows great personal character, unlike simply believing good things and doing them, that is too easy.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 20:20 |
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"You see, if a leader actually wants to kill every Muslim in the UK, but has to settle for merely throwing them all into concentration camps, that's democracy working as it should do", says Sunny Hundal, who finds this sort of progress encouraging.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 20:30 |
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It is especially funny in context of his pinned tweet. https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/1587010415661391879?cxt=HHwWjoC9hZLkmIYsAAAA
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 20:37 |
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Reveilled posted:
Some years ago (maybe 15-20! Time has no meaning anymore!) a cache of taliban (IIRC) paperwork was found and each unit had budgets and fighters had to submit receipts and there were receipts for all sorts of things such as packets of sweets, bottles of water etc. as well as a unit's 'pension' payments to widows and orphans! It was very bureacratic.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 20:38 |
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Yeah I have two kiddos and we haven't got married in part as a deliberate gently caress you to that regressive fuckwittery tbh (also that poo poo is expensive).
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 21:56 |
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https://twitter.com/POLITICOEurope/status/1628126912752091142 UK jumping in to give a defence of homophobia, transphobia and even hatred of unmarried couples! lmao remember when they had you convinced that they gave a poo poo about antisemitism?
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 21:56 |
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If there's only a 10% chance a politician you despise will enact the thing you hate, you should definitely vote for them because there's a 90% chance they'll do what you want instead. Fact. Overheard today: Trainmoron posted:They're putting mesh screens around playgrounds so the asylum seekers can't see in. They're not reporting it because they don't want you to know about it
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 22:05 |
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Asylum seekers see using radio waves, that's why there's 5G everywhere.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 22:16 |
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Why would "they" report on the minutae of playground renovations?
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 22:35 |
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I posted a little while ago about the letters that my mother in law showed me a few days ago which were written by her Uncle who was killed fighting in the Spanish Civil War with the International Brigade. The letter dates from December 1937 and he was killed around Aragon in March 1938. He was clearly a deeply committed and idealistic member of the CPGB and the letter outlines in detail his rationale for his Socialist worldview and he goes on to make some eerily prescient observations (even going as far as to use the word holocaust - in a letter from 1937) about the coming global storm. He was 23 when he was killed but he writes with an eloquence beyond his years. I thought it was a genuinely fascinating document both for its observations of the situation of the time and the prevailing relevance of many of the themes. I thought some of you might find it interesting too! This is the first page of the letter - it's 11 pages so I will just post my very imperfect transcription for the rest of it. quote:10/12/1937 Tomberforce fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Feb 21, 2023 |
# ? Feb 21, 2023 22:52 |
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That's incredible, thank you so much for writing that up. e: the missing word is 'critics'. It is not surprising considering that my critics have no knowledge of socialism
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 22:55 |
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Great letter, "Fascism is the last degraded ditch of monopoly capital." isOwlFancier posted:Why would "they" report on the minutae of playground renovations? They also do other far worse things, but I guess the implication is that asylum seekers are also looking at kids in playgrounds, therefore by the transitive property of the evil eye becoming nonces. Fortunately this can be stopped with a Faraday cage.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 23:11 |
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HopperUK posted:That's incredible, thank you so much for writing that up. Makes sense cheers! There is a second shorter letter dated from just before his deployment which I'll endeavour to type up soon too. If anyone is curious and wants a link to the google drive link for the full letter feel free to hit me up.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 23:16 |
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Guavanaut posted:Great letter, "Fascism is the last degraded ditch of monopoly capital." is One wonders if a similar effect can't be achieved in a more portable manner. Like with a head covering made out of some lightweight metal - say, aluminium, perhaps.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 23:20 |
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Tomberforce posted:This is the first page of the letter - it's 11 pages so I will just post my very imperfect transcription for the rest of it. Thanks for this, it’s fascinating and impressive. Such a young man to be so well read, considered, and eloquent.
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https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1627969170070544385 of course Jessflaps' tweets have gifs of her in them. of course
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