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Skwirl posted:If you wanna get loving weird with it, DC One Million and Grant Morrison's Batman I would actually consider Morrison's Batman essential to Final Crisis. I always sandwich re-reading FC into re-reading Morrison's run as a whole.
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Darth Nat posted:But Countdown gave us BSS's favorite character of 2007, the sensational Forerunner! How could it be bad? Is the first appearance of Forerunner worth millions of dollars yet so I can retire by selling it?
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Feb 16, 2023 02:54
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istewart posted:I would actually consider Morrison's Batman essential to Final Crisis. I always sandwich re-reading FC into re-reading Morrison's run as a whole. It’s complimentary, but far from essential. You also don’t have to read the Alpha Lanterns arc of Green Lantern. Just read what’s in the Final Crisis trade/hardcover.
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Feb 16, 2023 03:45
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Planning to read it in Omnibus format, which AFAIK includes all relevant tie-ins. I actually just read the Alpha Lanterns stuff a few nights ago & read Morrison's Batman a year-ish ago. I'm open to reading the stuff that's more complementary/beneficial vs essential for the event, so will probably check out DC One Million, Rock of Ages and at least a few storylines from Kirby's Fourth World.
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Feb 16, 2023 03:55
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srypher posted:Planning to read it in Omnibus format, which AFAIK includes all relevant tie-ins. I actually just read the Alpha Lanterns stuff a few nights ago & read Morrison's Batman a year-ish ago. I'm open to reading the stuff that's more complementary/beneficial vs essential for the event, so will probably check out DC One Million, Rock of Ages and at least a few storylines from Kirby's Fourth World. For just stuff directly influencing FC, I'd recommend Jimmy Olson #133-135, Forever People #4-7, and Miracle Man #8 and #15. New Gods is good too, but I can't think of anything that directly connects to FC.
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Feb 16, 2023 05:28
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Morrison's Batman dovetails into FC, and then after is probably my all time favorite Batman run other than the Jason Todd issue or 2 issues they did. Those were pretty bad from what I remember. Been a long while since I read them. There was also a nice Neil Gaiman Batman story right around the FC time frame. New 52 derails their Batman story a bit, but Morrison makes it work as best they can.
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Feb 16, 2023 14:52
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Agreed, Morrison Batman and Robin is so good. Tomasi and Gleason's Batman and Robin comes in a close second. Return of Bruce Wayne is great, Batman Inc. is fantastic.
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What I mean to say is that if you have any interest in Morrison's Batman, reading it at the same time as Final Crisis will definitely carry more impact. Both the Batman RIP hardcover/trade and Morrison omnibus volume 1 conclude with Batman 682/683, which more or less lead directly into Final Crisis. (Reading order RIP + 682/683 -> Final Crisis -> first two? volumes of Batman and Robin) Plus Batman's role in FC connects directly to who Dr. Hurt is and where he came from, Return of Bruce Wayne, and the later "missing chapters" of RIP (which were an amazing experience at the time, and enhance both the run as a whole and Final Crisis specifically). I'm glad I've managed to collect all three Morrison omnibuses, although it is quite an expensive way to read the story. I'm thinking about finally getting a copy of Absolute Final Crisis, even though it seems like it only had the one print run. Last time I checked, there were quite a few new-old-stock copies on eBay.
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The regular Final Crisis hardcover is everything you need. Grab Legion of Three Worlds if you want to see George Perez go ham. The Morrison Batman omnibi are really good. Burnham drew Batman and Robin in my volume three, and it’s one of my favorite books on my shelf.
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Feb 19, 2023 05:52
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Showcase '94 issue #12 has an oracle story with an interesting sequence.
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Feb 19, 2023 17:45
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When did Barbra Gordon shoot a secret service agent?
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Feb 19, 2023 21:31
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Skwirl posted:When did Barbra Gordon shoot a secret service agent? I'd assume in Suicide Squad?
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Feb 19, 2023 21:36
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She did what now with the joker
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site posted:She did what now with the joker the joker blew her back out, what's there to misunderstand
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Skwirl posted:When did Barbra Gordon shoot a secret service agent? I think so. I was more interested in Dick as batman in this story. Idk when this would have taken place
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Mr Hootington posted:I think so. I was more interested in Dick as batman in this story. Idk when this would have taken place I assume it's a future story.
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Feb 19, 2023 22:17
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It is not
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Is it part of Prodigal where Dick briefly took over for Bruce after Knightsend?
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I'm still focused on Barbra Gordon shooting a Secret Service agent.
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Madkal posted:Is it part of Prodigal where Dick briefly took over for Bruce after Knightsend? Could be. I haven't read that yet.
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Picked up a cheap Batman #152 at half priced books. It has the false face society story and is a good story. Oldest comic I own now.
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Showcase '94 #12 would have come out parallel to Prodigal, which is why the dialogue indicates Dick is Batman, not Bruce. As for "shooting a secret service agent", that happened a couple of years earlier in THE HACKER FILES, a series about a hacker named Hacker. There was a whole plotline where a government agency was trying to crack down on hackers (and Hacker) and enlisted Oracle to help track down the bad hackers but the bad hackers had connections in the Secret Service so they broke into her place to confiscate her computers/woke her up at gunpoint to arrest/protective custody her and she (non fatally) shot the guy with a gun pointed to her head when she woke up.   (from The Hacker Files #5)
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Was she still a former congressperson when this happened? It would lead to a hell of a headline
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I think the Congressperson thing is/was largely retconned (or at least ignored) post-Crisis. It's covered in her Secret Origins issue in 1987 that came out shortly before Killing Joke, but I'm reasonably sure it's never mentioned in Suicide Squad, and it definitely isn't in the Hacker Files appearance, she's only released from custody because the Justice League vouches for all of them and threatens to take it public and/or to the White House and as mentioned the whole operation was compromised/off the books so the Secret Service agent getting shot likely never made the press regardless of who shot him. I'm not super well versed on other post-Crisis Oracle/Batgirl flashback stuff, but I can't recall her time in Congress being mentioned beyond the Secret Origins issue.
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It has not been through 1995 as far as I have run across. I read the Hacker Files last night. Not a bad maxi-series. Very 90s
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World's Finest was a lot of fun this week and Nightwing was good as usual, though it was a bit more table-setting than usual.
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Stargirl: The Lost Children #4 was pretty good. God I hope this all leads to these characters being "restored" to a multiverse earth.
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I enjoyed that new Superman book. I think this character has potential.
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Last night I learned that Darkseid once invaded Chinese heaven.
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Siegkrow posted:Last night I learned that Darkseid once invaded Chinese heaven. This was a very good sequence.
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https://twitter.com/theoasg/status/1629263569760952323?s=46&t=dxZY15rIkh__-8NDx1vQ8w Finally the comic where Superman goes to different chain restaurants in Japan will be legally available
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i forgot about that joker and baby batman manga lol i wonder how that ended up being
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site posted:i forgot about that joker and baby batman manga lol i wonder how that ended up being It's very silly. I actually get Yakuza vibes from it in terms of how out of depth Joker is, but also how serious he takes it. Scanalations stopped just before Joker's encounter with Alfred.
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thetoughestbean posted:https://twitter.com/theoasg/status/1629263569760952323?s=46&t=dxZY15rIkh__-8NDx1vQ8w I recently got a set of the Superman set imported from Japan. It’ll be nice to have a set I can read.
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I finally read Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, and it’s probably on the upper tier of Tom King things I’ve read. Starts strong, kinda putters out by the end, like halfway through he remembered he only had eight issues and needed to wrap it up. Art by Bilquis Evely is next level throughout, and the Supergirl origin issue unexpectedly made me tear up! So props to the creative team there! What’s frustrating is so few reviewers seem to note that it’s a take on True Grit, almost exactly. So many goodreads users are like “why are there so many captions? Why does Ruthye talk so weird” and it’s just a sad gentle reminder that so many comic book fans read nothing but comics.
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I mean I don’t think it’s a big deal if you know whether it’s a take on true grit. Because man is that not very interesting
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Conrad_Birdie posted:I finally read Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, and it’s probably on the upper tier of Tom King things I’ve read. Starts strong, kinda putters out by the end, like halfway through he remembered he only had eight issues and needed to wrap it up. Art by Bilquis Evely is next level throughout, and the Supergirl origin issue unexpectedly made me tear up! So props to the creative team there! This is killing me, because when the issues were originally coming out I saw nothing but "Tom King does True Grit" reactions, and I guess the pendulum has swung the other way with people's no-context confusion. Also, the miniseries was cut down to eight issues, so that semi-rushed conclusion is no accident.
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Immediately recognizing it was a take on True Grit, my main reaction was "why did DC decide to publish a Supergirl story that was a retelling of True Grit?"
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It was bad. Especially how Supergirl was like "oh yeah Krypto has been fine all this time lol" out of nowhere and Tom King has to have Supergirl's horse get killed, of course
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Codependent Poster posted:It was bad. Especially how Supergirl was like "oh yeah Krypto has been fine all this time lol" out of nowhere and Tom King has to have Supergirl's horse get killed, of course They killed her boyfriend?
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