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MODOK looked fine enough in motion, as good as a live action one ever could, really. One thing I really appreciate about these movies is that Michael Douglas doesn't phone it in like most of the old guard actors, you can feel like the dude genuinely likes ants. Regarding the big fight Now they can't have Doom get beat by Squirrel Girl without rereading ground! Other than that I think the big issue with Quantum Realm is that it looked like every other MCU alien world. I'm not sure how you can really fix that at this point but it looked like any of the places from Gotg or Thor, and the Citadel stuff just looked like Knowhere
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As predicted I had a great time at the movies. Love MODOK, he's just the best giant floating head. Also: site posted:my life for Queen Abs
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MODOK looks bad, but it's definitely a choice and not a case of overworked VFX artists (although they are also that.)
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I think they made the right choice with MODOK. The more human face is probably better for the larger movie audience.
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site posted:my life for Queen Abs Muscle Mommy Cinematic Universe when?
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My kid couldn't remember a thing from Ant-Man 1 and then we did the math and realized he was 3 when we saw it, so we threw it on tonight. The OG suit is still one of the best costumes in the MCU, and Quantumania definitely suffers from not having all the cool visual tricks
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Opopanax posted:Other than that I think the big issue with Quantum Realm is that it looked like every other MCU alien world. I'm not sure how you can really fix that at this point but it looked like any of the places from Gotg or Thor, and the Citadel stuff just looked like Knowhere Yeah, it feels like everybody just designs a bunch of aliens on their own and then when it is time for a movie they just throw them all together with no regards to creating a coherent look/style.
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The mask talk from earlier in the thread did cause me to notice how often Scott was putting on/removing the helmet.
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muscles like this! posted:The mask talk from earlier in the thread did cause me to notice how often Scott was putting on/removing the helmet. Same. It was a lot
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It happens so often I can only assume that there was some kind of behind the scenes reason for it. Like Paul Rudd just refused to wear it or something.
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It was really evident at the end when the Ant trio and Kang would throw on their helmets to approach a fight and then remove them five seconds later to talk, then helmet up to take a hit and immediately drop them again. It was tremendously overdone in the last sequence.
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Feb 20, 2023 05:27
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Evangeline Lilly refused to film if anyone was wearing a mask.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that distracting. You're in a giant fight, now is not the time to pop your helmet off! No wonder people think he's Spider-Man
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muscles like this! posted:It happens so often I can only assume that there was some kind of behind the scenes reason for it. Like Paul Rudd just refused to wear it or something. You're paying for Paul Rudd, you want his face on screen as much as possible. Same reason Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield lost their masks so often as Spider-Man, and Captain America took his helmet off so often (which just got hilarious, with how much Chris Evans' hairpieces got progressively worse from movie to movie).
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I thoroughly enjoyed Quantumania. Jonathan Majors was the best part. I'm glad he's going to get a lot more screen time.
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Timby posted:You're paying for Paul Rudd, you want his face on screen as much as possible. Yeah, exactly. Sorry if you don't like it, but they're paying the stars to be in the movie so they're going to show their faces.
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah, exactly. Sorry if you don't like it, but they're paying the stars to be in the movie so they're going to show their faces.  However they're most likely shooting these scenes bare so every second without their helmets on is a second they don't have to spend on CG and they want us to see the actors actually interacting with each other so I guess magic helmets that are taken off and put back on every 5 seconds it is
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Assepoester posted:I mean "how do we show Robert Downey Junior's face if he's in the Iron Man suit all the time" was literally Marvel's signature cinematic innovation The Iron Man effect has always bothered me because the size (and width) of his HUD is far larger than what his helmet could feasibly display, and it isn't even close.
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Timby posted:The Iron Man effect has always bothered me because the size (and width) of his HUD is far larger than what his helmet could feasibly display, and it isn't even close. He also can't tilt his head like that in the suit, so that's just acting Nothing about the Iron Man suit is feasible anyway
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Assepoester posted:I mean "how do we show Robert Downey Junior's face if he's in the Iron Man suit all the time" was literally Marvel's signature cinematic innovation There's an alternate universe where instead of the masks going off and on they have weird CG half-mask half-face whenever people talk, like how they used to draw spider-man every time Peter was thinking about responsibility.
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Instead of taking their masks off, they should have codec calls like in Metal Gear Solid.
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Opopanax posted:MODOK looked fine enough in motion, as good as a live action one ever could, really. Michelle Pfeiffer killed it I did not like Cassie
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I'm glad they found a way to keep using the Ants because Michael Douglas weirdly sells his performance of a man who just really likes Ants. And the ant plot point of the ants becoming unspooled in time, living 1,000 years every second, and creating a hyper-advanced civilization was hilarious. The design of the ant civilization's advanced weapons and how they adapted them to fight with their bodies laser mandibles, shielded wings, telepathic helmets, and special armor/ranks for each different kind of ant was a really fun design choice.
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you won't be laughing when the invasion of the hyper ants is mcu phase 6
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Shageletic posted:Michelle Pfeiffer killed it Definitely but she's never been opposed to genre stuff so I put her in a different category
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I agree with the goons who said the pacing was off in Quantummania. The entire first half of the movie is almost entirely exposition, and at times repeated exposition at that. I agree it was a mistake to split up the group and then have them both hit the same beats. The Kang and Janet flashback was probably the best of it, but even there they have Janet narrating everything immediately after the audience sees it take place in the scene, which seemed unnecessary and drew everything out even further. And they really drew out the Kang reveal, to the point it seemed like HIM from the Powerpuff Girls had taken over the Quantum Realm, given how often they refused to just say Kang's name. I really needed more of a hook than "Ant family is stuck in weird world, how will they get out?" to keep me invested. That said, once the actual stakes where set and the plot started progressing, I had fun with it. Which started with Ant-Man going into the core and the existentially terrifying Probability Storm. With Kang finally explained and the threat to both the Ant family and the people living in the Quantum realm established, I was better able to vibe with the movie. Johnathan Majors unsurprisingly did well with his role, and I look forward to him returning. Scott having a moment of panic about Kang returning in the middle of his return to his improbably ideal life was both foreboding and hilarious. The direction they went with MODOK wasn't my preferred way to handle the character, but I think it works for the story they wanted to tell. They couldn't make him too unrecognizable without losing the connection to the first film that they'd established, thus the weird, stretched face. And while the end point is a little rushed, it kind of makes sense that the guy obsessed with weaponizing Pym tech would lean into being the ULTIMATE WEAPON, despite how it's clearly damaged him both physically and mentally. Still, I do wish he'd been a little more of a weird gremlin. At least in his less lucid moments. Overall, I'd put it slightly above Thor: Love and Thunder, and below the previous Ant-Man films. With a tighter script, and maybe less to juggle, I think it would have been far more entertaining. glitchwraith fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Feb 20, 2023 |
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I think folks with heavy criticizms of MODOK are forgetting his teeny tiny butt which is peak cinema. Scorsese could never.
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Joe Fisto posted:I think folks with heavy criticizms of MODOK are forgetting his teeny tiny butt which is peak cinema. Scorsese could never. That and Hank going [spoiler] "Socialism is a loaded term these days but we could learn a lot from these ants[/spoilers] was the best part. I liked Cassie and Scott together.
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Opopanax posted:MODOK looked fine enough in motion, as good as a live action one ever could, really. I always appreciated how hard Douglas goes in that one What If episode.
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Plus they had two bad guys, and the more goofy they made MODOK the less goofy they had to make Kang, so they could let Kang actually be a good bad guy.
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I really don't get the reviews/criticism. Quantumania was great. The whole theater had a great time.
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King Burgundy posted:I really don't get the reviews/criticism. Quantumania was great. The whole theater had a great time.
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Just saw ant-man 3. Overall it is a c+. Paul Rudd seemed checked out during half the movie. Kathryn Newton is bad. Not enough Evangeline being kickers. Michelle snd Douglas were both good. It was a delight to see Katy O'Brian. Johnathan Majors was very good. The problem I had with MODOK is they made him too pathetic. He was just sad. I liked how the microverse looked. The story was disjointed and rushed. The best parts were the comedy bits and anything with Kang or Hank. Ant-Grandpa was good.
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Hank and his ants could’ve carried the movie on their own. I dare say a better movie would’ve been Hank getting sucked down ahead of the rest and him exploring the Quantum Realm while the others mount a rescue. I really just want Michael Douglas science adventures.
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Mr Hootington posted:Kathryn Newton is bad. We're all entitled to our own opinions, and I do my best to respect others and live and let live, but I can't let this slander go. The kid was super great, and I can't wait to see her in a team-up with gal pals Kate and Yelena.
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I love Kathryn Newton. Haven't seen Quantumania. No idea how she does in it. But none of the reactions I've seen really change my expectations of it. It seems like for the most part the people who hate the MCU or have become increasingly tired of it or thinks everything after Endgame has gone the wrong way are still down on it. And it seems like people more positive or chill on that stuff are more positive or chill on it. I'm sure there's some exceptions both way but it seems like the same response we've seen to most of the Marvel stuff the last few years. But as always everyone gets more and more exaggerated. My plan remains the same. Ignore CineD or Twitter or all the buzz as best I can. Do a marathon of Ant-Man movies when it hits Disney+. Probably enjoy myself but not have my world changed. Move on to something else. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Feb 22, 2023 |
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STAC Goat posted:I love Kathryn Newton. Haven't seen Quantumania. No idea how she does in it. But none of the reactions I've seen really change my expectations of it. It seems like for the most part the people who hate the MCU or have become increasingly tired of it or thinks everything after Endgame has gone the wrong way are still down on it.
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Quantumania is the perfect example of a comic book movie that is just like an average 3 issue run from an ongoing series. The title character comes in, there's a villain of the arc, and the hero wins at the end. Repeat for 30 years. The only issue is that with the MCU etc you only get to make *at most* a trilogy of films and a couple of team-ups so you can only really play the hits. It's why with X-Men you of course get Sentinels/Dark Phoenix/Apocalypse/Brotherhood of Evil Mutants etc, because regardless of how poorly the Fox movies handled those they are the big stories. Ditto with DC and the constant Batman Year One/Killing Joke/Knightfall/Dark Knight Returns stuff. I mean, I'm fine with movies like Quantumania being a solid 2 hours of 3/5 fun like some random back issue of the comics pulled from the racks, not everything has to be super important and world-changing. It's why I liked the earlier Ant-Man films too. We're kinda stuck now that anything not advancing the big plot feels weightless, and everything advancing the big plot feels too eager to make itself important it overshadows the need to focus on the smaller character arc stuff. I think the real issue of Phase 4/5 has been no official team-up movie to tie everything together. You could have all the smaller flicks and origin stories before because once in a while there was another Avengers film to connect all the heroes. Right now, I legit don't even know who is *in* the Avengers. Presumably Falcon Cap, maybe Hulk still, possibly Ant-Man if he's not too old for this poo poo and retiring on a high. Spidey is totally a maybe, Hawkeye is properly retired, Widow is dead, Thor is absent. There's lots who could join, but was the end credits scene of Shang-Chi a recruitment? Is Carol officially in now? There's no way of knowing until the big movies at the end of this whole series of films.
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