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The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Heart genuinely was doing a nice thing to help me out when I was looking at the giraffes and assumed the thread would be reopened within a couple hours without realising it may be closed for longer against her (rightfully made) assumption. There was a little annoyance on her part in creating the museum thread but I believe she realised it was impulsive and is doing reparations to fix it, and she's posting some museums in the thread now. In any case please don't harsh on her because her hellothisisherheart is in the right place and lol I chose the wrong day to be at the zoo .

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jay z's sedan
Nov 22, 2005

milk truck just arrive

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Heart genuinely was doing a nice thing to help me out when I was looking at the giraffes and assumed the thread would be reopened within a couple hours without realising it may be closed for longer against her (rightfully made) assumption. There was a little annoyance on her part in creating the museum thread but I believe she realised it was impulsive and is doing reparations to fix it, and she's posting some museums in the thread now. In any case please don't harsh on her because her hellothisisherheart is in the right place and lol I chose the wrong day to be at the zoo .

being a mod isnt hard stfu

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003


lol

Skypie
Sep 28, 2008
I think if admins have a problem with a thread, they should probably just make a statement themselves instead of asking mods to do it as a shield, since that's exactly what caused the ADTRW mod to catch flak for doing what Fluffdaddy asked, last year or whenever it was

Maybe the admins should stop viewing themselves as above the rest of the posters on the site and actually take in feedback. But somehow they're always absent except for when they get mad over someone making the millionth St James Island troll or when they're being thin-skinned about feedback in a feedback thread.

I don't understand why they'll hem and haw over punishing people for posting links to snuff on Twitter or weird poo poo in a DeviantArt thread but they'll 360noscope people over imp zone icons or whatever weak poo poo happened in this very thread lol

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Skypie posted:

I think if admins have a problem with a thread, they should probably just make a statement themselves instead of asking mods to do it as a shield, since that's exactly what caused the ADTRW mod to catch flak for doing what Fluffdaddy asked, last year or whenever it was

Maybe the admins should stop viewing themselves as above the rest of the posters on the site and actually take in feedback. But somehow they're always absent except for when they get mad over someone making the millionth St James Island troll or when they're being thin-skinned about feedback in a feedback thread.

I don't understand why they'll hem and haw over punishing people for posting links to snuff on Twitter or weird poo poo in a DeviantArt thread but they'll 360noscope people over imp zone icons or whatever weak poo poo happened in this very thread lol

It's because you're allowed to do whatever you want as long as you don't 1) make the mods do their job or 2) embarrass them by pointing out they haven't.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

jay z's sedan posted:

being a mod isnt hard stfu

also this.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

WarpDogs posted:

it's also another reason QCS is needed, and also why Sagas turned into what it did. it might seem Sagas was serving as a staging ground for a thread "invasion" (and I mean, lol at that as a concept), but really it was one of the only places on the entire site you could discuss a hosed up topic on the site without risking a ban

This is another point: brigading and forum invasions aren't real. Absolute loving nonsense. If people are behaving in a way you don't like in, say, the gbs war porn thread, probe em there! Moderate people in your forum! Don't be like "oh well sagas has to be shut down because people are posting badly in a different thread", that's insane behaviour. When cspam dipshits turn up here and act like they do they get probed. The PYF mods don't melt down demanding the, I don't know, car hate thread get closed to stop the vile trolls

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022
feedback: reopen sagas with prior moderation and commute spr's sentence to time served for the crime of politics posting. reopen qcs with someone who plans to read and moderate the whole thing/has a working frontal lobe. perma fluffdaddy

feature request: when sagas is back, private message me a weekly digest of the 'greatest hits' emptyquoted posts + leaderboard for sagas karma

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ohtori Akio posted:

feedback: reopen sagas with prior moderation and commute spr's sentence to time served for the crime of politics posting. reopen qcs with someone who plans to read and moderate the whole thing/has a working frontal lobe. perma fluffdaddy

Useful Distraction
Jan 11, 2006
not a pyramid scheme
so is this thread exclusively for pyf feedback or forum feedback in general, since qcs is still gone?

cause here's another couple bullshit probations in the gbs ukraine thread, the second one is a thread regular being probed for "Forum war bullshit cloaked in moralistic pearl-clutching."

I got the tude now posted:

how grotesque. if you want to be inspired, try a film rather than observing conflict. there's discussion to be had about global events, but personal satisfaction is not a good reason to consume media of war and death.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

FirstnameLastname posted:


SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Um,
  1. . If one is genuinely feeling positively inspired by watching war footage and gaining personal satisfaction from that, then that would, in fact, be a pretty darn good reason to consume media of war and death



Okay I was following you until there: that is (amongst other things) literally one of the main rampways into violent extremism of all kinds: The NZ mosque shooter, ISIS, all sorts of nasty stuff. If someone finds themselves inspired or satisfied by watching wardeath media that is not good. it's just not ever good. It is bad to experience irl, it's bad to experience vicariously through a screen.

It legitimately fucks your brain up, watching stuff like that, especially in large quantities, alters your hippocampus permanently and desensitizes you to violence and it's bad for ya. Media you know is fake has an effect too, but media you know is real has a massive one.

If you consume enough of it, it doesn't really matter why the violence someone watches happens either when you see enough, e.g. soldiers fighting a valid war for defense or a cartel killing video.
Simply watching people being hurt and killed by other people is really bad for your mental health over time, it's not something you want to promote or try to normalize, it's bad, there's studies.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Yeah uh... Let's not do general forums feedback esp if they are in gbs I really do not know how to give feedback there tho

Dr. Cool Aids
Jul 6, 2009
e: respecting the above and deleted

Mr Teatime
Apr 7, 2009

some plague rats posted:

This is another point: brigading and forum invasions aren't real. Absolute loving nonsense. If people are behaving in a way you don't like in, say, the gbs war porn thread, probe em there! Moderate people in your forum! Don't be like "oh well sagas has to be shut down because people are posting badly in a different thread", that's insane behaviour. When cspam dipshits turn up here and act like they do they get probed. The PYF mods don't melt down demanding the, I don't know, car hate thread get closed to stop the vile trolls

You are a cspam dipshit. You literally have a thread over there about for shitposting about the Holodomor, it’s not exactly shocking that you let the usual gaggle of idiots whip themselves up to go try and own their posting enemies in what used to be a decent enough thread. It should have been stepped on before it got to the point of thread closure.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Mr Teatime posted:

You are a cspam dipshit. You literally have a thread over there about for shitposting about the Holodomor, it’s not exactly shocking that you let the usual gaggle of idiots whip themselves up to go try and own their posting enemies in what used to be a decent enough thread. It should have been stepped on before it got to the point of thread closure.

oh?

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

Mr Teatime posted:

You are a cspam dipshit. You literally have a thread over there about for shitposting about the Holodomor, it’s not exactly shocking that you let the usual gaggle of idiots whip themselves up to go try and own their posting enemies in what used to be a decent enough thread. It should have been stepped on before it got to the point of thread closure.

word?

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



This is pyf feedback I think you want to give that feedback in Cspam? Also please do not do grudges against specific posters, politics and dear God, holodomor here. Why do I need to be writing this

Mr Teatime
Apr 7, 2009

The Saddest Rhino posted:

This is pyf feedback I think you want to give that feedback in Cspam? Also please do not do grudges against specific posters, politics and dear God, holodomor here. Why do I need to be writing this

Fair enough if you think this is cross forum poo poo stirring, but I think it’s relevant to PYF to point out that the IK who was supposed to be minding the shop in the sagas thread when it got out of hand holds certain opinions that may be related to why they didn’t exactly clamp down on people stirring themselves up to go charging at enemy posters resulting in the current time out. To be clear, some plague rats created that thread about the holodomor, I think it’s bad that it exists in Cspam but my point in bringing it up is that the op is the idiot king here.

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

it’s definitely an IKs fault that the GBS mods are retarded, agreed op

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there

Mr Teatime posted:

You are a cspam dipshit. You literally have a thread over there about for shitposting about the Holodomor, it’s not exactly shocking that you let the usual gaggle of idiots whip themselves up to go try and own their posting enemies in what used to be a decent enough thread. It should have been stepped on before it got to the point of thread closure.

wow op, that’s almost as bad as those dang fyad concern nazis and their genuine racism megathread. have you considered giving an interview to vice news?

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mr Teatime posted:

Fair enough if you think this is cross forum poo poo stirring, but I think it’s relevant to PYF to point out that the IK who was supposed to be minding the shop in the sagas thread when it got out of hand holds certain opinions that may be related to why they didn’t exactly clamp down on people stirring themselves up to go charging at enemy posters resulting in the current time out. To be clear, some plague rats created that thread about the holodomor, I think it’s bad that it exists in Cspam but my point in bringing it up is that the op is the idiot king here.

ill be honest here you aren't being clear at all. Wtf is your point.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
If you can't boil either of those incoherent tear filled paragraphs down to 1-2 sentences then you can just shut the gently caress up

Mr Teatime
Apr 7, 2009

:nallears:

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
alright let me summarize it for you then and maybe you can see what my problem is. You're bringing up an IKs threads made in a forum they do not moderate to explain why they're a bad IK because they... 'rile people up'? The implication being I guess that nobody would post in GBS or read GBS without the vile arch-traitor some plague rats orchestrating it. And for some reason you keep bringing up cspam. Wtf are you trying to say dude.

Violen
Jul 25, 2009

ohoho~

Mr Teatime posted:

You are a cspam dipshit. You literally have a thread over there about for shitposting about the Holodomor, it’s not exactly shocking that you let the usual gaggle of idiots whip themselves up to go try and own their posting enemies in what used to be a decent enough thread. It should have been stepped on before it got to the point of thread closure.


Mr Teatime posted:

Fair enough if you think this is cross forum poo poo stirring, but I think it’s relevant to PYF to point out that the IK who was supposed to be minding the shop in the sagas thread when it got out of hand holds certain opinions that may be related to why they didn’t exactly clamp down on people stirring themselves up to go charging at enemy posters resulting in the current time out. To be clear, some plague rats created that thread about the holodomor, I think it’s bad that it exists in Cspam but my point in bringing it up is that the op is the idiot king here.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdhbC-xyUrg

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
that's not a good sign

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Honestly I feel the most insecure and anxious about this site than I have in a long time. Probably worse than it was when Lowtax was obviously just making GBS threads the bed. Everything's just gone fuckin insane. This is PYF feedback, since PYF is a forum on SA and it's absurd to pretend posting in PYF is safe from this as opposed to posting in other subforums.

AdmiralViscen
Nov 2, 2011

Well, this thread seems completely unanimous, so I’m sure we will see the unbans, apologies, and policy overhauls rolling in any minute now

I feel like any professional adult who reviewed this situation would instantly side with the users. What is wintertime for?

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

AdmiralViscen posted:

Well, this thread seems completely unanimous, so I’m sure we will see the unbans, apologies, and policy overhauls rolling in any minute now

I feel like any professional adult who reviewed this situation would instantly side with the users. What is wintertime for?

wintertimes job is reminding Jeff that he paid for a website and to read it, and I'm not kidding at all.

Wormskull
Aug 23, 2009


I miss the tek 9 gang tag.

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

I've realized as of late that I'm in my 30s and I don't care for posting in a place where every decision made by mods is to treat posters like they're naughty children. if I hadn't more recently found joy in the Imp Zone I'd probably be done with this poo poo even though I've literally spent half my life looking at this website because it's gotten to be too much

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Mistakes were made.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I think my number one piece of feedback is that the mods and admins really have to stop treating ordinary forums posters as if they're the enemy.

The best mods are the ones that just talk to people like they're fellow adults, and that's not a coincidence.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.

Mr Teatime posted:

You are a cspam dipshit. You literally have a thread over there about for shitposting about the Holodomor, it’s not exactly shocking that you let the usual gaggle of idiots whip themselves up to go try and own their posting enemies in what used to be a decent enough thread. It should have been stepped on before it got to the point of thread closure.

nobody here cares about the cspam posts in cspam you moron

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

grieving for Gandalf posted:

I've realized as of late that I'm in my 30s and I don't care for posting in a place where every decision made by mods is to treat posters like they're naughty children. if I hadn't more recently found joy in the Imp Zone I'd probably be done with this poo poo even though I've literally spent half my life looking at this website because it's gotten to be too much

same. i don't post in IZ though, but the subforums I still post in are all moving so slowly I can hardly see the point. there's not many clusterfucks left before I think I'm just done

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

My general PYF-specific feedback:

Rhino should be allowed to enjoy his vacation. I wish I were wandering around looking at giraffes instead of dealing with moving to a new apartment in a week. Also he's actually good at this, again, because he actually talks to us like we're all just people who share a ridiculous hobby (posting on these stupid forums) rather than like he's our babysitter or a mall cop.

I don't think HelloIamYourHeart acted maliciously, but she definitely made a mistake I've seen far too many moderators, including ones I've thought pretty highly of, make. When you have even the small dubious amount of power that forums buttons confer, making jokes at the expense of the people you have power over, especially when those people are already angry, is just going to escalate whatever situation was happening rather than defuse it. Yes, every time. Yes, even if your joke was extremely funny.

SPR's de-IKing shouldn't have happened but I'm not especially surprised that it did, given the tone of things around here the other night.

Sagas was often a bit of a train wreck but usually the entertaining sort and not the poisoning-a-town-an-hour-from-where-I-grew-up sort and I hope it's allowed to be that again.

All the rest of my thoughts aren't really PYF-related so beyond saying that I hope that new-QCS doesn't go the way I fear it will, I'll keep them to myself.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Gonna play good cop and say that I don't personally think the admins and mods have a shared resentment & disdain for SA posters, rather that they probably inform each other, spreading their biases; a mod pings an admin, who pauses their game and says "what", the mod says "they're doing a brigade, they're doing a cringe, they've performed a no-growth and they're just Trolls" and they act accordingly.

Mr Teatime posted:

You are a cspam dipshit. You literally have a thread over there about for shitposting about the Holodomor, it’s not exactly shocking that you let the usual gaggle of idiots whip themselves up to go try and own their posting enemies in what used to be a decent enough thread. It should have been stepped on before it got to the point of thread closure.

Barely any C-SPAM posters posted in the Saga thread, and the ones that brought their baggage ended up getting banned for being creepy, probed, or mocked out of the thread.

Neurolimal has a new favorite as of 15:57 on Feb 22, 2023

Fsmhunk
Jul 19, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
They see themselves as being above the lesser posters. That's why pissing off a mod or admin, or making fun of them is punished far more harshly and swiftly than doing something actually bad.

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored

docbeard posted:

The best mods are the ones that just talk to people like they're fellow adults, and that's not a coincidence.

No, that can’t be right, can it? Mods that equate their important moderator status to the struggles of LGBTQ folks and condescend to everyone are definitely the way to go.

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Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

docbeard posted:

The best mods are the ones that just talk to people like they're fellow adults, and that's not a coincidence.

We need someone who can moderate the mods and admins when they get in a tizzy, which seems to happen a lot lately

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