Killer robot posted:

Especially if you played vanilla, picked primary skills you use a lot so you level faster while your secondary skills got left behind, and focused on the main quest that has poo poo for good loot. It set your experience up to be as ugly as a randomly-generated character.

Kit Walker posted:

Wasn't it the case with one of those games that the best choice was specifically to pick useless skills as your main skills because then your combat skills could easily outpace the enemy scaling? Or it had something to do with controlling the benefits of leveling to maximize bonuses or whatever? I never played them, but they get talked about a bunch in threads here

Blue Footed Booby posted:

The latter. When you level a skill that's associated with, say, strength, you get a bonus to strength if you use a point on it at level up. You can only put one little token into a skill when leveling, so if you don't have several skills with a maxed multiplier you "waste" some of your potential by increasing a skill with no bonus multiplier.

This poo poo is in no way necessary. The games aren't balanced around doing it, and it will in fact trivialize combat even faster. But some people feel compelled, while other people completely ignored it. This is why Skyrim did away with attributes entirely.

Amphigory posted:

Post pics, nerds

mobby_6kl posted:

Just play Quake and skip the nerd poo poo

TK-42-1 posted:

If you literally bunny hop everywhere in Oblivion your acrobatics can get high enough you can sequence break gates and finish them in under a minute

TK-42-1 posted:

If you literally bunny hop everywhere in Oblivion your acrobatics can get high enough you can sequence break gates and finish them in under a minute

credburn posted:

There's this thing I used to call the Morrowind Hop, which is where you hug the thing that's too steep to scale, and you hop hop hop hop and grind against it until you managed to climb the fucker. You can Morrowind Hop your way around every single Bethesda game since. Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout 4... Fallout New Vegas is the only one I've found this to be ineffective because they fuckin put invisible walls up all over the fuckin place in that game.

credburn posted:

There's this thing I used to call the Morrowind Hop, which is where you hug the thing that's too steep to scale, and you hop hop hop hop and grind against it until you managed to climb the fucker. You can Morrowind Hop your way around every single Bethesda game since. Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout 4... Fallout New Vegas is the only one I've found this to be ineffective because they fuckin put invisible walls up all over the fuckin place in that game.

Lobok posted:

Sounds like it's too bad I didn't play Skyrim but Oblivion is the only ES game I played and it soured me on the franchise. Maybe I'll check out the next game when it comes out in... [looks online] ...good lord

Blue Footed Booby posted:

You can also equip a suit of armor with 100% chameleon enchantment and shove enemies out of the way without them reacting. It's not as broken as Morrowind but it's still delightfully wonky.

Agents are GO! posted:

At least in Skyrim, you actually jump-climb in reverse. I don't know why it works, but it does!

Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:

skyrim is better than oblivion, but not much better. it's at least a more fun game to gently caress around in without all the forced repetitive dungeon crawling - the dungeons are less repetitive and you can also just ignore the plot without hell portals everywhere

Rockman Reserve posted:

I’m pretty sure that you can only hit like 95% chameleon by enchanting a full set of gear in Oblivion…. unless you held onto the shackles you were bound in before Captain Picard gets assassinated, as they went into a unique gear slot used by nothing else in the game so you could sneak an extra enchant on ‘em.
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`Nemesis posted:

it's really because bethesda didn't make new vegas, another studio did it for them. i also use this feature constantly in bethesda games, especially since the "correct" pathway is often difficult to find
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Flyinglemur posted:

I played Skyrim for about a week and a half before I told my buddy that I was pissed off that there weren't dragons like the ads said. He looked at me like I was a moron and slowly explained that there is a dragon to fight during the first mission. I told him yes, thinking that he meant the tutorial. He didn't. I had been doing everything except the main quest and if you don't do that, you don't get dragons spawned. I was something like level 35 when I went back and did that first mission and it was not difficult to defeat it.

carrionman posted:

No one plays Bethesda's games for the plot.

Which makes toddy boys attempts to make me give a poo poo about the dumbass baby in fallout 4 even stupider

captainOrbital posted:

Is this from another set like the Disneyland ones? Those were so absolutely amazing.

Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:

it was pretty lame that bethesda kept barking at me to go engage with the Worlds Most Obvious Plot Twist

the real crime of that game though was the half-baked but still fun settlement building mechanics, introduced at the same time as the "let's build a settlement" faction, and then the two barely intersected. i know they just ran out of time/effort to actually fuse the settlement building with the core gameplay in any kind of significant way. its funny though that the half-baked settlement stuff was more rewarding than engaging with the dismal plot. thanks for trying to give me sci-fi drama bethsoft, turns out all i wanted was lovely violent minecraft

Boob Cop posted:

carrionman posted:

No one plays Bethesda's games for the plot.

Which makes toddy boys attempts to make me give a poo poo about the dumbass baby in fallout 4 even stupider

Thaddius the Large posted:

Lol, literally did the same thing, got past the intro, ran off into the wilderness and never looked back, didn’t go to Whiterun for at least a couple dozen hours

Shaddak posted:

Manager Hoyden posted:

That might be the most embarrassing picture I've ever seen