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Mega Comrade posted:I think almost every woman I know well has at some point moaned about the size of modern phones. But I see people (including some in this thread) claim they are a minority. Maybe they are but personally I think it's just the tech industry doing what it's always done, pander to men almost exclusively. You can if youre willing to go back to flipphones. Reject mondernity, return to tradition (playing snake while waiting in line at cvs)
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The problem with that is in Europe at least no one calls or text with SMS anymore. Its all done with messaging apps. So outside of an emergency phone, it's basically useless to communicate, otherwise I'd strongly consider it. Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Feb 24, 2023 |
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Feb 24, 2023 13:11
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It owns because when all I have with me outside is my dumbphone I am simply not bothered. Can always respond to chats once I get back
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Feb 24, 2023 13:22
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I have to admit, I'm very tempted to get a Light Phone II at times. Just to force my brain off the addiction box, if nothing else.
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Feb 24, 2023 13:24
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Mega Comrade posted:The problem with that is in Europe at least no one calls or text with SMS anymore. Its all done with messaging apps. I don't know much about phones and software design for them but is there something that prevents a flip style phone where the lower half is a physical keyboard from running say whatsapp? I did get my latest SMS today however. It's rarely what I would use for messaging someone, but official stuff and notifications from the postal office comes via SMS often.
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Feb 24, 2023 13:27
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My phone has a 'focus mode ' which allows me to just turn off certain apps while it's activated. It has helped me from doing the usual 'automatic pick up phone and open dumb app' without thinking.
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Feb 24, 2023 13:27
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Mega Comrade posted:I think almost every woman I know well has at some point moaned about the size of modern phones. But I see people (including some in this thread) claim they are a minority. Maybe they are but personally I think it's just the tech industry doing what it's always done, pander to men almost exclusively. But men don't carry purses. My problem with my pixel 6 pro isn't using it; it's having the drat thing in my pocket. I have jeans where it's uncomfortable to sit with it in a side pocket. Hell, I have cargo pants where I can't get the flap closed because the phone is too big. I don't know what I'd do if one day all men's pants started being designed by the psychopaths who design women's clothes. Honestly, I think it's one of those weird things where it's not how many people want it; it's how bad they want it. There are enough features high enough up the priority list that it masks size demand.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:But men don't carry purses. This is a problem you can fix
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Feb 24, 2023 13:32
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Wear the purse blue footed booby
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Feb 24, 2023 13:32
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I did read somewhere that some of the reason is the race to make them more and more powerful. Squeezing all that power is harder and more expensive than slapping on a slightly more expensive bigger screen and calling it a day. So the larger phones end up having bigger profit margins.
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Feb 24, 2023 13:32
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As an average sized 6ft0 adult male I find most phones just barely usable these days due to their excessive size. I don't want to have to use two hands with a phone if I'm not texting, or have one that doesn't fit in a jeans pocket. I have no idea how kids and women in general, or people with a smaller average human size like parts of South-East Asia, manage. 6.5"+ screens shouldn't be the standard, but that seems to be where we're heading.
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Feb 24, 2023 14:45
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I remember reading research about why companies but especially Apple are adopting big phones over small ones is that the larger the screen the more you look at it, to play games, watch tv, whatever. Big phones drive more screen time in general, which is good for Apple because then you buy more apps or watch more Apple TV+, etc. It’s why I got a mini for my current phone as I was trying to reduce my screen time. It may be less their hardware margins and more that they see the minis reduce earnings on their real money maker, which is engagement with apps.
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Feb 24, 2023 14:56
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Mega Comrade posted:I think almost every woman I know well has at some point moaned about the size of modern phones. But I see people (including some in this thread) claim they are a minority. Maybe they are but personally I think it's just the tech industry doing what it's always done, pander to men almost exclusively. The stupidest thing is that size creep with phones is also sort of lovely (albeit in a lesser way) for men too. Having clothing with functional pockets is great, except as phones get bigger they don't actually fit in a lot of the pockets any more (especially if it's clothing that was fancy enough to have a dedicated phone pocket). I've got a few old jackets that I've had since before smartphones were as big, and one of them is a field jacket style with lots of pockets, but there's not one that will actually fit my current smartphone.
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Feb 24, 2023 15:00
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Danger - Octopus! posted:The stupidest thing is that size creep with phones is also sort of lovely (albeit in a lesser way) for men too. Having clothing with functional pockets is great, except as phones get bigger they don't actually fit in a lot of the pockets any more (especially if it's clothing that was fancy enough to have a dedicated phone pocket). I've got a few old jackets that I've had since before smartphones were as big, and one of them is a field jacket style with lots of pockets, but there's not one that will actually fit my current smartphone. My backpacking pack has a dedicated waterproof pocket for electronics on the hip belt, and a phone hasn't fit in it since the phone I owned when I bought the pack.
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Feb 24, 2023 15:06
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A smaller, but thicker phone to fit the circuitry and more battery would be fine by me, they don't need to be that thin IMO. I need to check out what's actually avilable but I wouldn't be entirely opposed to a flip phone with a real, physical keyboard. I have a an actual Nokia 1610 btw here in my office.
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Feb 24, 2023 15:18
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If I didn't really like the cameras on my 21 Ultra, I'd probably consider the Flip or that Razr that came out a few years back. Now that I have a decent point-and-shoot and a good high-end camera, though, I'm probably going to switch once I run this into the ground. I think the big thing is that mobile gaming never broke out in any major graphics-and-processor intensive way, so there's just no reason to have a wicked-high-end SoC anymore, unless you're super into playing LoL: Wild Rift.
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Feb 24, 2023 15:20
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Upping up the thickness with extra battery until the camera bump goes away would rule.
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HopperUK posted:I love my SE, I hope it never dies. My OG SE died.  I mean the new phones are mostly better about everything else, but I loved the small form factor. I could actually reach all the important places in the screen with just my thumb.
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iPhone 13 mini is only 1.5years old and it is a good size Smaller than the SE but the screen is bigger! Witchcraft!
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His Divine Shadow posted:A smaller, but thicker phone to fit the circuitry and more battery would be fine by me, they don't need to be that thin IMO. The phones need to be thin so when you put on the case to protect your thin phone from being damaged because it is so thin it isn't too thick. Also, gently caress apple for the camera bump. What a stupid loving idea that was.
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Mourning Due posted:A meandering but eventually on-topic post: So first of all, I hope you and your wife learned your lesson about not having backups. Sadly most people don't even after losing all their poo poo. Second, have you tried doing the facebook take-out or whatever it's called? There should be an option somewhere to "request my data" and in theory they must give you all the data they have saved associated with your account. Request your data and wait a few days for it to generate and if it's not in there you're probably SOL. Third, iirc there's a working backdoor to get a live support person: you have to buy their stupid VR headset but you can return it when you're done.
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Mourning Due posted:A meandering but eventually on-topic post: Hell yeah, Nexus 5 crew represent 
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Dietrich posted:Also, gently caress apple for the camera bump. What a stupid loving idea that was. Why gently caress Apple specifically?  Camera bumps exist on every (non-minimum camera) phone. There is only so much physics fuckery you can do to reduce the size of the lens. Since taking photos is one of the primary things people use phones for, I don’t think you will see dissapearance of camera bumps any time soon.
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the heat goes wrong posted:Why gently caress Apple specifically? Just make the top of the phones a bit thicker!  E: OK I re-read the article and it does say Apple wasn’t the first  but Apple doing it certainly sent the signal that “this is OK for everyone to do”, same as removing the headphone jack
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I honestly don't understand the need for a super-fast latest gen phone, because unless you're going to be doing hardcore gaming on it somehow what else do you even need all that power for? Apex Legends Mobile? they axed development and are shutting down the servers soon lol
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I mean some people just have the money to afford the super-fast latest gen phone, so they do it. You don't really need more reasoning than that.
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the heat goes wrong posted:Why gently caress Apple specifically? Just make the phone thicker. They are making their phones delicate to sell you a $40 case to have a functional phone that won't break immediately.
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Mercury_Storm posted:I honestly don't understand the need for a super-fast latest gen phone, because unless you're going to be doing hardcore gaming on it somehow what else do you even need all that power for? Apex Legends Mobile? they axed development and are shutting down the servers soon lol The people that do things don't even understand why they do things. Their decision was made before they were even aware of it!
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Boris Galerkin posted:I mean some people just have the money to afford the super-fast latest gen phone, so they do it. You don't really need more reasoning than that. I do a lot of graphic production for work, the latest gen Samsung with stylus/top shelf camera have made me a superstar at work. They're tools.
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Have we really needed - what is it - 16 loving Iphones since their inception? I mean, as long as idiots are going to camp out overnight and form a line around the block every year, I get why Apple does this but people continuously salivating over new tech, only to be pissed off when it's buggy, barely an upgrade and almost always insanely expensive continues to baffle me. It's like people who buy the new Madden game every year for a decade and keep bitching about how much it sucks.
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Leon Sumbitches posted:I do a lot of graphic production for work, the latest gen Samsung with stylus/top shelf camera have made me a superstar at work. They're tools. They're also status symbols and status symbols are vain and dumb. It's, of course, best to assume people have good reasons to do the things they do until proven otherwise.
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All the attempts to make "show your government ID to look at porn" laws made me think - political will aside, tech wise, how hard would proof-of-identity be to implement on phone systems and otherwise curb spoofing? Cause it dawns on me just how silly it is that people can get texts from random numbers pretending to be UPS, Fedex, etc -and obviously it's annoying me that there seems to be more concern about stopping online anonymity for dumb puritanical (and probably more insidious reasons too) then there seems to be any effort being made to curb phone/text scamming. Oxyclean fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Feb 25, 2023 |
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Oxyclean posted:All the attempts to make "show your government ID to look at porn" laws made me think - political will aside, tech wise, how hard would proof-of-identity be to implement on phone systems and otherwise curb spoofing? It actually is (mostly?) implemented these days: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STIR/SHAKEN
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Oh interesting, a few years ago I was getting a ton of spoof calls from local numbers, and at some point it just quieted down (though there was a brief resurgence?) I still think I get the odd one though. I guess this is why.
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Oxyclean posted:All the attempts to make "show your government ID to look at porn" laws made me think - political will aside, tech wise, how hard would proof-of-identity be to implement on phone systems and otherwise curb spoofing? Common carrier and other regulations including interoperability requirements for actual phone calls from phone numbers make some of these things difficult. To be clear I’m not saying regulation is wrong, just that the world wide phone system is not designed to handle these kinds of issues. For example, even if one carrier implemented something a carrier they’re required to peer with may not and there’s a back door. As an example, for sometime a lot of spoofing was originating from carriers in Eastern Europe and Russia. The nature of the telephone system is slowly but steadily changing. POTS may actually disappear soon, but there’s still minor pushback to allowing landline carriers to only operate via VoIP.
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Oxyclean posted:Oh interesting, a few years ago I was getting a ton of spoof calls from local numbers, and at some point it just quieted down (though there was a brief resurgence?) I still think I get the odd one though. I guess this is why. SAme. When I was job hunting, I got loving inundated with bullshit scam calls; I guess since I put my number out there so much. A few were from my OWN number, which was a new wrinkle. Lately, I'm getting those texts where it's like "why haven't you responded? Are you OK?", which I suppose are just to see if it's a live number? Not sure what the end game is for those
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BiggerBoat posted:Lately, I'm getting those texts where it's like "why haven't you responded? Are you OK?", which I suppose are just to see if it's a live number? Not sure what the end game is for those It’s just a Wrong Number scam. You reply saying you’re fine who is this, scammer apologizes for texting the wrong number, but tries to keep the conversation going by thanking you for being polite, saying they appreciate the nice conversation, asking increasingly personal questions, etc etc. Then they just try to steer the conversation into one of a ton of possible scams.
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Mzbundifund posted:It’s just a Wrong Number scam. You reply saying you’re fine who is this, scammer apologizes for texting the wrong number, but tries to keep the conversation going by thanking you for being polite, saying they appreciate the nice conversation, asking increasingly personal questions, etc etc. Then they just try to steer the conversation into one of a ton of possible scams.
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Mzbundifund posted:It’s just a Wrong Number scam. You reply saying you’re fine who is this, scammer apologizes for texting the wrong number, but tries to keep the conversation going by thanking you for being polite, saying they appreciate the nice conversation, asking increasingly personal questions, etc etc. Then they just try to steer the conversation into one of a ton of possible scams. You know it must be fate I texted you.
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