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*Submits TDY paperwork for BAQ & BAS* Thanks for having us, Putin sucks and should die and get the hell out of Ukraine; Slava Ukraini! and God bless HIMARS! Aim High!
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Troops taking dustbaths in the red forest is obviously a different story That and shelling a power plant are what I was referring to with the, "they can't be that stupid" bit. Digging trenches in the place there is buried radioactive sand from the cleanup.
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Chernobyl trench warfare has got to be the biggest idiocy of early war and because no visual evidence of it leaked my brain doesn't want to believe it happened
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Alan Smithee posted:Chernobyl trench warfare has got to be the biggest idiocy of early war and because no visual evidence of it leaked my brain doesn't want to believe it happened there was pictures of the trenches and medical reports of men treated for radiation poisoning
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A fun thing to remember- it doesn't matter what country or service- whatever dumb idea you see, there were several dozen dumber ones seriously considered.
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well based on a general's war simulation couldn't Ukraine just sink Russian ships using motorcycles
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Alan Smithee posted:well based on a general's war simulation couldn't Ukraine just sink Russian ships using motorcycles You’ve gotta stuff the cruise missiles in the sidecar first 
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bulletsponge13 posted:A fun thing to remember- it doesn't matter what country or service- whatever dumb idea you see, there were several dozen dumber ones seriously considered. The deranged plots that get left on the cutting room floor are a sight to behold.
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mikerock posted:Meyer was a gigantic POS Judging by his Wikipedia page: geez, no kidding. That piece of poo poo loved the gently caress out of executions!
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single tour Navy vet and gbs war thread refugee here just wanting to thank the fine goons in GiP for maintaining a topical thread free of the kind of thread shittery that would have it closed, or for just being the right and correct forum to host such a thread or whatever O7 I've always had an interest in aerial warfare and wonder if an uptick in modern jet fighter dogfighting over Ukraine is on the horizon what with the increase in material support from the west which includes modern fighters (if I'm not mistaken which I absolutely could be). Does anyone here have some insight into what the air war might look like now and into tyool 2023?
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Icon Of Sin posted:You’ve gotta stuff the cruise missiles in the sidecar first https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG7YPtDGPhM
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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:*Submits TDY paperwork for BAQ & BAS* Denied. Mission critical personnel and whatnot also you have to update your password in DFAS
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Flyinglemur posted:Denied. Mission critical personnel and whatnot also you have to update your password in DFAS ...lemme call my s1
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Dick Bastardly posted:single tour Navy vet and gbs war thread refugee here just wanting to thank the fine goons in GiP for maintaining a topical thread free of the kind of thread shittery that would have it closed, or for just being the right and correct forum to host such a thread or whatever The airspace over Ukraine is not currently permissive to either side, adding modern jet fighters would not substantially change the equation on who rules the skies, MANPADs are ubiquitous and between those and the larger truck/tracked systems, flying at anything above treetop level is borderline suicide for the pilot. The reason for the lack of a real air war campaign (except for sneaky bombing runs/yeeting rockets from parabolic helicopters)/prevalence of artillery war is that anyone hopping into a cockpit is taking a very significant risk of not coming home at the end of the mission. E: Russia has more advanced fighters and in far greater numbers than Ukraine, but you don't see them conducting massive aerial bombardment like they do in Syria because Syrian rebels didn't have the poo poo to shoot them down, Ukraine does, and in great numbers. orange juche fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Feb 26, 2023 |
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There's a YouTube pundit that recently made a good video on this. https://youtu.be/carENYJE7bg a summary of the air war so far https://youtu.be/Lot6i8bqvpw an interview with Some guy from a think tank who seems to have it together. Both reflect takes that I haven't really seen around all that much but it seems to track for me.
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Efb but I'll leave this bit And also, around Vuhledar https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1629691855527976960?t=m7AFz1jwAIXpzEjjzJTgqg&s=19
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Karma Comedian posted:Efb but I'll leave this bit Trickling in like my overwatch teammates
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Borscht posted:There's a YouTube pundit that recently made a good video on this. tl;dr Both have a good track record. Chris at Military Aviation History is a doctoral student in history with a consistent string of good and reasonable takes. His channel is a pro-subscribe if military aviation is your thing. He's strong on analysis and his in the cockpit videos are treats. The guy from the think tank is from the Royal United Services Institute in England. It's the oldest defense think tank in existence being founded in 1831 by the 1st Duke of Wellington (yes, the Waterloo guy and ancestor of Churchill). They're a non-profit and presumably independent; given their age and prestige, the people who would normally tell a think tank what to say would instead be taking their marching orders from RUSI. I kid, but only so much. You will also see a RUSI analyst as a frequent guest on Ward Carroll's channel. On a recent interview he talked about he'd gone to Sweden to talk to Saab about Gripens, had a ride in the back seat of a trainer, and also went into the field with a maintenance team at a dispersed location. This shows a strong interest in Gripens, which are ideal for the conditions Ukraine's air force is operating in, but there just aren't a lot of actual airframes. Maybe if Sweden joins NATO we can give them F-35s to replace Gripens sent to Ukraine. Carroll is a former F-14 RIO with a great YT channel that regularly has serious guests like former admirals talking about what they had to do to qualify as skipper of a nuclear carrier (spoiler: a lot). He showed off some chud opinions earlier in his YT career, but he shut up about them a long time ago, so he gets a pass. Pro-follow as well, he knows he isn't an expert on a lot of stuff so gets experts on and asks them questions.
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poo poo, I'd be interested to hear what the sign-off is for a carrier captain. That's fascinating as all hell.
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mllaneza posted:..... by the 1st Duke of Wellington (yes, the Waterloo guy and ancestor of Churchill).... Don't think they were related, Churchill was a descendant of the 1st Duke of Marlborough, John Churchill (a big fighter in his own right but a century earlier). Wellington was Protestant Ascendancy (Ireland). ---- Chris at Military Aviation History is a v good youtuber.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:poo poo, I'd be interested to hear what the sign-off is for a carrier captain. That's fascinating as all hell. Short version. Pass nuke school (one of the hardest training courses on the planet), do a tour as chief engineer of a nuclear-powered surface ship, wait for one of now 11 seats to open up. Long version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knLdtg2e28U
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:poo poo, I'd be interested to hear what the sign-off is for a carrier captain. That's fascinating as all hell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knLdtg2e28U (e:f;b) It's about 42 minutes long but goes quickly. Here's another video about how they decided on the design for the Ford-class by the first program manager of its design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjXMGtc9slU
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It's pretty amazing how quick an aircraft carrier can get moving at the top end. Not sure of our top speed when I was on the USS Enterprise (we were quicker than the Ike? not sure the carrier, it's been years) but while our destroyer escort would beat us off the line, we'd overtake them fairly quickly and then leave them in our wake with no issue. This actually happened following 9/11, Enterprise was headed home from a deployment, 9/11 happened, she turned around on her own initiative, and went at flank speed back to support US ops for another month. She left her escorting task group in her wake by *days* in order to get back on station.
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On Bakhmut - I imagine Ukraine are very carefully watching the exits to judge the best time to retreat. They don't want it to be a rout, or to lose too many doing so. The optics wouldn't be great. They'll just want to make the Russians pay as dearly for it as possible. So I would think it will happen quite suddenly when it does. They've already got new defensive lines prepared, the Russians will just win a booby trapped wasteland of their own creating at the cost of , what, tens of thousands of lives.
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Mobile Chernobyl was like 15k pounds (or somewhere around there) lighter displacement-wise over a Nimitz-class. I remember hearing that there was something that could be done during wartime to overstress the turbines to get more than 32-34 knots out of the CVNs, but I think the CVs were always faster in sprints, they just couldn't keep it up as long as the CVNs because of the obvious. Even so, I don't think any CVN's ever done 40+ knots. It is  to see the "Tokyo Drift" high speed trial images, though.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Mobile Chernobyl was like 15k pounds (or somewhere around there) lighter displacement-wise over a Nimitz-class. "Just run more steam pressure 4Head" <- actually what you would do to get more power out of your steam turbines, and all ships are built with a "war reserve" of engine performance that while the ship will run, it will definitely shorten the lifespan of the turbines. I believe the Enterprise went into the yards for a year long overhaul after the 2001 deployment, possibly due to extra wear from exceeding design specs. I imagine a destroyer or CG could exceed their rated limits for a time as well, I just know less about how gas turbines work than steam ones. Roblo posted:On Bakhmut - I imagine Ukraine are very carefully watching the exits to judge the best time to retreat. They don't want it to be a rout, or to lose too many doing so. The optics wouldn't be great. They'll just want to make the Russians pay as dearly for it as possible. So I would think it will happen quite suddenly when it does. Yeah, the Ukrainians won't quit Bakhmut until the last possible second in order to force the Russians to pay for every inch, and once the Russians do get it, its going to be a booby-trap wasteland. I'd imagine the Ukrainians are already slowly reducing their troops in Bakhmut in order to set up the new lines, and also make it possible to exfiltrate their units with the lesser quality routes they have left to them. orange juche fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Feb 26, 2023 |
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orange juche posted:"Just run more steam pressure 4Head" <- actually what you would do to get more power out of your steam turbines, and all ships are built with a "war reserve" of engine performance that while the ship will run, it will definitely shorten the lifespan of the turbines. I believe the Enterprise went into the yards for a year long overhaul after the 2001 deployment, possibly due to extra wear from exceeding design specs. I imagine a destroyer or CG could exceed their rated limits for a time as well, I just know less about how gas turbines work than steam ones. A few days ago, it was reported by open source commentators that they had already reduced the quantity of troops, and proportionately the equipment there, to around 5,000 people. Withdrawals of personnel and gear have been done piecemeal for at least the last month as of now. e: here's a thread by a Ukrainian reserve military officer detailing news that Russians have actually begun learning what to do on the battlefield based on captured documents that were found on the enemy. It's worth a read. https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1629722073487613953 zone fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Feb 26, 2023 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Mobile Chernobyl was like 15k pounds (or somewhere around there) lighter displacement-wise over a Nimitz-class. i mean, 32-34 is loving honking anyway, but i was sure i'd heard the CVN's will top out around 42
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zone posted:A few days ago, it was reported by open source commentators that they had already reduced the quantity of troops, and proportionately the equipment there, to around 5,000 people. Withdrawals of personnel and gear have been done piecemeal for at least the last month as of now. https://mobile.twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1629722076138426368 https://mobile.twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1629722080538132482 https://mobile.twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1629722085516795904 Assuming they can actually reach their paper strength and equipment (LMAO), what sort of missions could such a unit reasonably accomplish?
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:i mean, 32-34 is loving honking anyway, but i was sure i'd heard the CVN's will top out around 42 I heard that a lot too, and from people that should have known better.
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orange juche posted:"Just run more steam pressure 4Head" <- actually what you would do to get more power out of your steam turbines, and all ships are built with a "war reserve" of engine performance that while the ship will run, it will definitely shorten the lifespan of the turbines. I believe the Enterprise went into the yards for a year long overhaul after the 2001 deployment, possibly due to extra wear from exceeding design specs. I imagine a destroyer or CG could exceed their rated limits for a time as well, I just know less about how gas turbines work than steam ones. GT is the exact same principle as a steam turbine, nozzles and blades, and almost the same thermal stress worries. I've never seen an engine I couldn't bypass the limits on and basically do whatever I want. The Wartsila 20V34SG I could set half the cylinders to run ahead and the other half in reverse if I had the right laptop and passwords but that was ashore. The automation on a ship is much easier to bypass. The SL7s hit 33 so I would be surprised if a carrier wasn't well beyond. A big rear end boiler should crush just about any other propulsion plant. lightpole fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Feb 26, 2023 |
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zone posted:e: here's a thread by a Ukrainian reserve military officer detailing news that Russians have actually begun learning what to do on the battlefield based on captured documents that were found on the enemy. It's worth a read. Am I misreading this completely, or is this not saying a "company" consists of 2-3 "platoons" of 12-15 dudes plus some support elements? I get that IFVs and the other support elements are force multipliers, but in terms of pure number of guys actually assaulting the position those sounds like low numbers. I can't tell whether I'm underestimating the effect/amount of support elements, or whether this is an indication of how bad the Russian casualties have been.
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zone posted:A few days ago, it was reported by open source commentators that they had already reduced the quantity of troops, and proportionately the equipment there, to around 5,000 people. Withdrawals of personnel and gear have been done piecemeal for at least the last month as of now. That was worth the read, looks like they are adapting. Whether they can supply the armour & arty to support it for the duration is a question for the future.
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Loezi posted:Am I misreading this completely, or is this not saying a "company" consists of 2-3 "platoons" of 12-15 dudes plus some support elements? I get that IFVs and the other support elements are force multipliers, but in terms of pure number of guys actually assaulting the position those sounds like low numbers. I can't tell whether I'm underestimating the effect/amount of support elements, or whether this is an indication of how bad the Russian casualties have been. That account had more on that a week or so back, it's an adaption to taking a fuckload of casualties and generally lacking vehicles.
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Loezi posted:Am I misreading this completely, or is this not saying a "company" consists of 2-3 "platoons" of 12-15 dudes plus some support elements? I get that IFVs and the other support elements are force multipliers, but in terms of pure number of guys actually assaulting the position those sounds like low numbers. I can't tell whether I'm underestimating the effect/amount of support elements, or whether this is an indication of how bad the Russian casualties have been. I think this is what modern positional warfare looks like. You don't have the ability to punch through and exploit so the tanks go away other than the one providing fire support. You can't mass infantry because that just results in a better target for enemy fires. So you end up with low density assault squads backed up by as much firepower as you can safely bring.
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