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Nebrilos: Oct 9, 2012

Kaufmann has that graph showing that some children are hearing a few liberal ideas in school and concludes that that is turning them liberal, but I have the opposite argument. I went to a school in one of the most liberal towns in one of the most liberal states in the country and we still were taught to revere the founding fathers as gods, taught that capitalism is the best system, that socialism never works, made to salute the flag and say the pledge of allegiance every day... of course, in other less liberal places, the pro-capitalist etc indoctrination would be even more severe. But the contradictions and failures of capitalism and our country have become so obvious that gen-Z and millennials are trending more liberal, even in spite of all of this pro-capitalist etc indoctrination.

I bet he doesn't even think of this stuff as indoctrination, even though that's what it is.

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I AM GRANDO: Aug 20, 2006

I think they consider �liberal� to mean �believes that people who are different deserve to be allowed to live� or �thinks that everyone has the same rights.� It�s an order of magnitude away from questioning capitalism, although they probably use �communism� interchangeably with those things when criticizing liberals.

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FunkyFjord: Jul 18, 2004

Several Fox hosts are found of saying chinese communist democrats so you can bet anything even more rwm than that uses the word purely as a buzzword without any specific meaning.

# ? Feb 26, 2023 04:37

ZZT the Fifth: Dec 6, 2006; I shot the invisible swordsman.

FunkyFjord posted:

Several Fox hosts are found of saying chinese communist democrats so you can bet anything even more rwm than that uses the word purely as a buzzword without any specific meaning.

I'm reminded of them calling Obama an "atheist Muslim".

# ? Feb 26, 2023 04:46

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

ZZT the Fifth posted:

I'm reminded of them calling Obama an "atheist Muslim".

I'm reminded of one of the best lines ever to come out of freep, "heterosexual gays"

# ? Feb 26, 2023 04:53

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Nebrilos posted:

we still were taught to revere the founding fathers as gods

There you go, the founding fathers were largely liberals, and thus you can't find a clearer example of liberal indoctrination than this!

# ? Feb 26, 2023 05:40

Nebrilos: Oct 9, 2012

I was bored in the airport, so I bought a book that was about "the founding of America's first navy and the defeat of the Barbary Pirates". It seemed interesting. Except that to depict the Barbary Pirates as especially evil, it talked about how they would capture and enslave American sailors. Which is evil, but it also had Thomas Jefferson complaining about them. Thomas Jefferson who owned slaves. It didn't bring that up for some reason. Right-wing trash designed to frame Islam as America's forever enemy.

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Enver Zogha: Nov 12, 2008; The modern revisionists and reactionaries call us Stalinists, thinking that they insult us and, in fact, that is what they have in mind. But, on the contrary, they glorify us with this epithet; it is an honor for us to be Stalinists.

Nebrilos posted:

I was bored in the airport, so I bought a book that was about "the founding of America's first navy and the defeat of the Barbary Pirates". It seemed interesting. Except that to depict the Barbary Pirates as especially evil, it talked about how they would capture and enslave American sailors. Which is evil, but it also had Thomas Jefferson complaining about them. Thomas Jefferson who owned slaves. It didn't bring that up for some reason. Right-wing trash designed to frame Islam as America's forever enemy.

Yeah, during the 2000s I recall the Barbary Pirates stuff occasionally being invoked to claim "Islam" has always been at war with America and/or the West. It also comes up when conservatives want people to stop talking about chattel slavery in the USA because "did you know there were WHITE slaves across the Atlantic????????"

Coincidentally, Benjamin Franklin mocked the arguments of those defending chattel slavery by writing a parody in which a Muslim official invokes the same sort of arguments to justify the seizure and enslavement of Christian seamen (see pages 53-57 of And Why Not Every Man? Documentary Story of the Fight Against Slavery in the U.S.)

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nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

ZZT the Fifth posted:

I'm reminded of them calling Obama an "atheist Muslim".

My favorite bit was them trying to square the idea of how Barack Obama, Atheist Muslim Terrorist, learned how to hate America by attending Christian pastor Reverend Jeremiah Wright's church every Sunday for over 20 years.

# ? Feb 26, 2023 08:37

mllaneza: Apr 28, 2007; Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

Of course Jefferson was incensed about the Barbary Pirates enslaving white Christians, those were people like him! But everyone hated those pirates, slavery is bad no matter who you do it to. The fledgling US Navy helping to shut them down was a major accomplishment for a young country. It's one of those worst person/right opinion things.

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Enver Zogha: Nov 12, 2008; The modern revisionists and reactionaries call us Stalinists, thinking that they insult us and, in fact, that is what they have in mind. But, on the contrary, they glorify us with this epithet; it is an honor for us to be Stalinists.

nine-gear crow posted:

My favorite bit was them trying to square the idea of how Barack Obama, Atheist Muslim Terrorist, learned how to hate America by attending Christian pastor Reverend Jeremiah Wright's church every Sunday for over 20 years.

From what I recall their tactic was to accuse Wright of preaching Black Liberation Theology, and then to define Black Liberation Theology as a series of "bad" things ("hating whitey," "Marxism," etc.), therefore Wright isn't "actually" a Christian and the atheist Muslim communist fascist Obama attending his church was thus perfectly explicable.

mllaneza posted:

Of course Jefferson was incensed about the Barbary Pirates enslaving white Christians, those were people like him! But everyone hated those pirates, slavery is bad no matter who you do it to. The fledgling US Navy helping to shut them down was a major accomplishment for a young country. It's one of those worst person/right opinion things.

To be fair, Jefferson was a Deist who was often denounced with words like "atheist" and "infidel" by his more orthodox critics. To Jefferson's statement that "it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg," Federalist clergyman William Linn retorted "let my neighbor once persuade himself that there is no God, and he will soon pick my pocket, and break not only my leg but my neck."

But yes, whites being enslaved was no doubt considered a greater outrage than the enslavement of black persons. Jefferson, like many who wanted to gradually phase out chattel slavery, thought blacks were an "inferior race" that couldn't live alongside whites in conditions of freedom, ergo they'd have to be sent to Africa.

Enver Zogha fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Feb 26, 2023

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RoboChrist 9000: Dec 14, 2006; Mater Dolorosa

ZZT the Fifth posted:

I'm reminded of them calling Obama an "atheist Muslim".

I'd had my own thoughts on the subject for years before I'd read Prester Jane's old stuff, and while I disagree with her on a lot of things, one thing I do agree with is that I do think there is a sort of ur-authoritarian conservatism (that is probably best understood as a personality type or something rather than a ideology) which you see cropping up throughout history and place, and which always follows the same basic script but with the names of the characters changed.

And one of the major aspects of this script, and in keeping with the childish and strictly binary view of things that conservatives have, is that there is Good and there is Bad and all of the bad things are simply servants or expression of the Bad, rather than discrete enemies to be approached on their own terms. The Hellas/Barbaroi distinction to use ancient history as an example. It's why conservatives are so fond of Illuminati-style conspiracy theories or Satanic Panic stuff - all of the various enemies they imagine are simply tools of the real Bad; Satan/The Jews/the Illuminati/Whatever.

So, like, yeah, 'atheist Muslim' is perfectly cromulant because they don't understand 'atheist' and 'Muslim' as two distinct groups that are unique. Atheists and Muslims are, like Communists and Feminists, simply tools of the Illuminati/Jews/Globalists/Satanists/Cabal and ultimately serve their agenda.
Like just look at the Great Replacement. They can't even hate black people on their own terms; the 'problem' of 'black crime' is deliberately manufactured by Jews as part of a plot to exterminate the white race. 'Transgenderism' is part of a Jewish attack on masculinity. Etc etc.

It all always goes back to some imaginary Final Boss of Reality that they imagine themselves to be the sole bulwark of goodness fighting against.

EDIT: Like remember; this nation was founded by Puritans who believed the Pope was the Antichrist, the Catholic kings of Europe his infernal pawns, and that the end times and the final battle of good vs evil was nigh at hand. The basic script of QAnon/The Satanic Panic/The John Birch Society/etc has been with us and popping up every generation or so for longer than America has been a nation.

RoboChrist 9000 fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Feb 26, 2023

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GoutPatrol: Oct 17, 2009; *Stupid Babby*

ZZT the Fifth posted:

I'm reminded of them calling Obama an "atheist Muslim".

I believe he is not a Muslim, but a good man.

He may or may not be a motherfucker, or someone who hosed his mother.

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happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

nine-gear crow posted:

My favorite bit was them trying to square the idea of how Barack Obama, Atheist Muslim Terrorist, learned how to hate America by attending Christian pastor Reverend Jeremiah Wright's church every Sunday for over 20 years.

They also said his wedding ring had islamic scripture on it, and some curtains in the white house DEFINITELY had terrorist foreign terrorism scary muslim lingo on them*.

*They didn't.

# ? Feb 26, 2023 10:33

Bizarro Kanyon: Jan 3, 2007; Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!

I am listening to a podcast about the Illuminati and it brought up this article written back in the 1960s.

It lays out how paranoia has been the literal driving force of government since the founding of America.

https://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/

quote:

Here is Senator McCarthy, speaking in June 1951 about the parlous situation of the United States:

How can we account for our present situation unless we believe that men high in this government are concerting to deliver us to disaster? This must be the product of a great conspiracy on a scale so immense as to dwarf any previous such venture in the history of man. A conspiracy of infamy so black that, which it is finally exposed, its principals shall be forever deserving of the maledictions of all honest men. . . . What can be made of this unbroken series of decisions and acts contributing to the strategy of defeat? They cannot be attributed to incompetence. . . . The laws of probability would dictate that part of . . . [the] decisions would serve the country�s interest.

Now turn back fifty years to a manifesto signed in 1895 by a number of leaders of the Populist party:

As early as 1865�66 a conspiracy was entered into between the gold gamblers of Europe and America. . . . For nearly thirty years these conspirators have kept the people quarreling over less important matters while they have pursued with unrelenting zeal their one central purpose. . . . Every device of treachery, every resource of statecraft, and every artifice known to the secret cabals of the international gold ring are being used to deal a blow to the prosperity of the people and the financial and commercial independence of the country.

Next, a Texas newspaper article of 1855:

. . . It is a notorious fact that the Monarchs of Europe and the Pope of Rome are at this very moment plotting our destruction and threatening the extinction of our political, civil, and religious institutions. We have the best reasons for believing that corruption has found its way into our Executive Chamber, and that our Executive head is tainted with the infectious venom of Catholicism. . . . The Pope has recently sent his ambassador of state to this country on a secret commission, the effect of which is an extraordinary boldness of the Catholic church throughout the United States. . . . These minions of the Pope are boldly insulting our Senators; reprimanding our Statesmen; propagating the adulterous union of Church and State; abusing with foul calumny all governments but Catholic, and spewing out the bitterest execrations on all Protestantism. The Catholics in the United States receive from abroad more than $200,000 annually for the propagation of their creed. Add to this the vast revenues collected here. . . .

These quotations give the keynote of the style. In the history of the United States one find it, for example, in the anti-Masonic movement, the nativist and anti-Catholic movement, in certain spokesmen of abolitionism who regarded the United States as being in the grip of a slaveholders� conspiracy, in many alarmists about the Mormons, in some Greenback and Populist writers who constructed a great conspiracy of international bankers, in the exposure of a munitions makers� conspiracy of World War I, in the popular left-wing press, in the contemporary American right wing, and on both sides of the race controversy today, among White Citizens� Councils and Black Muslims. I do not propose to try to trace the variations of the paranoid style that can be found in all these movements, but will confine myself to a few leading episodes in our past history in which the style emerged in full and archetypal splendor.

# ? Feb 26, 2023 15:12

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

Captain_Maclaine posted:

I'm reminded of one of the best lines ever to come out of freep, "heterosexual gays"

For those who have not seen the classic post,

quote:

We also have �straight� anal sodomy, as well as contraception, sterilization and abortion, which makes most married husband-and-wfe couples, in effect, heterosexual gays.

33 posted on 12/28/2013 2:03:31 PM by Mrs. Don-o (When the heart is pure, it can't help loving, because it has found the source of love, which is God.)
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Murgos: Oct 21, 2010

GlyphGryph posted:

There you go, the founding fathers were largely liberals, and thus you can't find a clearer example of liberal indoctrination than this!

By the actual definition of what constitutes a liberal ideology they were one of the most liberal groups of people of their time.

Would it blow a Fox viewers mind if they were told that democracy is a liberal ideology? Probably not if we go by the evidence of Jan 6.

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Murgos: Oct 21, 2010

Enver Zogha posted:

To Jefferson's statement that "it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg," Federalist clergyman William Linn retorted "let my neighbor once persuade himself that there is no God, and he will soon pick my pocket, and break not only my leg but my neck."

This illustrates one of my least favorite conservative religious bogeymen, �without fear of god to make men behave we would all just suddenly descend into murderous rapine and barbarism.�

As though there aren�t billions of people living without fear of a sky daddy that will spank them for being bad right this very minute.

If the only reason you haven�t murdered me and made chattel of my family is because of your fear of retribution then you are absolutely the problem and should not be a member of any society of people.

# ? Feb 26, 2023 20:03

Dr. Gargunza: May 19, 2011; He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.; Fun Shoe

cat botherer posted:

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1628842441913540610
Dilbert guy has gone full kanye, but against black people.

Sorry to interrupt Founders Chat, but I just wanted to make sure everyone saw how much things are all going to Scott's plan

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/25/business/dilbert-comic-strip-racist-tirade/index.html

# ? Feb 26, 2023 20:49

Brawnfire: Jul 13, 2004; 🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Murgos posted:

This illustrates one of my least favorite conservative religious bogeymen, �without fear of god to make men behave we would all just suddenly descend into murderous rapine and barbarism.�

As though there aren�t billions of people living without fear of a sky daddy that will spank them for being bad right this very minute.

If the only reason you haven�t murdered me and made chattel of my family is because of your fear of retribution then you are absolutely the problem and should not be a member of any society of people.

Not to mention that there's lot of reasons given *to* murder and enslave your neighbor in The Bible so, uh, if my neighbor buys into that who knows what they'll do?

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BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Yeah, I've never really need a bible or the implied punishment of eternal hell to learn what my mom said when I was seven and asked me "how would you like it if ___________?" to understand the golden rule. It's just empathy and most anyone can do it if they want to.

# ? Feb 27, 2023 00:21

OgNar: Oct 26, 2002; They tapdance not, neither do they fart

Empathy is just another word for Woke you commie bastard.

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VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

Enver Zogha posted:

Coincidentally, Benjamin Franklin mocked the arguments of those defending chattel slavery by writing a parody in which a Muslim official invokes the same sort of arguments to justify the seizure and enslavement of Christian seamen (see pages 53-57 of And Why Not Every Man? Documentary Story of the Fight Against Slavery in the U.S.)

drat that's good

# ? Feb 27, 2023 01:21

Astrochicken: Aug 13, 2007; So you better go back to your bars, your temples
Your massage parlors!

How high does the infectious venom of catholicism get you.

# ? Feb 27, 2023 01:26

GPTribefan: Jul 2, 2007; Something witty yet inspirational about the Cleveland Indians

OgNar posted:

Empathy is just another word for Woke you commie bastard.

You joke but they literally believe this. Any kind of understanding, caring, or sympathy towards any group that isn�t they is considered �woke� and is part of the liberal agenda to make a feminine society. Only woman can feel emotions, and look how stupid and irrational they are!

Homeless? It was your fault for not being better with money, now stop leaching off the system and get your poo poo together.

Gays? They can�t reproduce, only recruit!! They�re destroying the fabric of America and society in general, and they need to get right with god if they want to stop being persecuted and marginalized. It�s all in their heads anyway because society is too complacent with this bullshit so why should I feel bad for them?

Blacks? Hurr durr 13% amirite??? They need to stop leaching off the system and shooting each other and get their poo poo together. If the system is SO rigged against them, why was one of them president?? And why do they get tax breaks and live like kings off of MY paycheck? The systemic racism is ridiculous because they get to burn cities and get practically rewarded for it!! But if I tell a joke or say the N word LIKE THEY DO ALL THE TIME I get cancelled!!

Women? Jesus Christ they get everything handed to them on a platter and they�re all WHORES AND SLUTS that won�t sleep with me or give me a chance. They can�t even act like women did in the 50s when they knew their place and raised kids like they were supposed to.

Empathy is for the weak. Empathy leads to socialism and this is AMERICA GOD DAMMIT. You feel sorry for them and they become dependent on you and then the country goes broke.

# ? Feb 27, 2023 02:00

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

Dr. Gargunza posted:

Sorry to interrupt Founders Chat, but I just wanted to make sure everyone saw how much things are all going to Scott's plan

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/25/business/dilbert-comic-strip-racist-tirade/index.html

Welp I hope for his sake (no I don't) he's got "gently caress you money" squirreled away to maintain his lifestyle, because never has anyone put the notion of "gently caress you money" to so literal a test.

# ? Feb 27, 2023 02:33

StumblyWumbly: Sep 12, 2007; Batmanticore!

It's weird this is blowing up so much because I'm sure Scott got feedback from all his Black friends before he went off on this rant

(He has no Black friends :thejoke:

)

# ? Feb 27, 2023 04:32

Murgos: Oct 21, 2010

StumblyWumbly posted:

It's weird this is blowing up so much because I'm sure Scott got feedback from all his Black friends before he went off on this rant

(He has no Black friends )

Sorry for Reddit but, this got a chuckle:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/11cpv7v/dilbert_oc/

# ? Feb 27, 2023 05:12

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

Owlbear Camus posted:

Welp I hope for his sake (no I don't) he's got "gently caress you money" squirreled away to maintain his lifestyle, because never has anyone put the notion of "gently caress you money" to so literal a test.

I think it's the opposite, actually. I feel like with newspapers having dropped him before, and newspapers dying in general, he probably wasn't making the kind of money he would like and has decided to go into full on right wing "I HAVE BEEN SILENCED" grift mode. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually sees a boost in income from this.

# ? Feb 27, 2023 05:36

PhazonLink: Jul 17, 2010

does the dilbert burrito inventor still live in a dilbert sharped castle house?

also i dont think he has fuckyou levels of money unless he saved and invested all his money into safe index funds.

# ? Feb 27, 2023 07:56

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

PhazonLink posted:

does the dilbert burrito inventor still live in a dilbert sharped castle house?

also i dont think he has fuckyou levels of money unless he saved and invested all his money into safe index funds.

Here is what you need to know about Dilbertman's financial savvy:

https://twitter.com/BlakeTapper/status/1521119644488290304

He seems the type to have lost big in the recent crypto collapse.

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killer_robot: Aug 26, 2006; Grimey Drawer

But does a man of his wealth really miss the 350k? Internet webs says he's between 50-75m

# ? Feb 27, 2023 11:49

Levantine: Feb 14, 2005; GUNDAM!!!

BiggerBoat posted:

You're joking but this is very much true. The last thing most republicans want is an educated populace. Everything you need to know is right there in whatever it is I say that the bible says.

I apologize for sounding glib but I was absolutely not joking. That said, plenty of educated people parrot the talking points to achieve their goals. Like you said, an educated populace (read: poors) makes it a lot harder to shove poo poo down their throat.

GPTribefan posted:

You joke but they literally believe this. Any kind of understanding, caring, or sympathy towards any group that isn�t they is considered �woke� and is part of the liberal agenda to make a feminine society. Only woman can feel emotions, and look how stupid and irrational they are!

Homeless? It was your fault for not being better with money, now stop leaching off the system and get your poo poo together.

Gays? They can�t reproduce, only recruit!! They�re destroying the fabric of America and society in general, and they need to get right with god if they want to stop being persecuted and marginalized. It�s all in their heads anyway because society is too complacent with this bullshit so why should I feel bad for them?

Blacks? Hurr durr 13% amirite??? They need to stop leaching off the system and shooting each other and get their poo poo together. If the system is SO rigged against them, why was one of them president?? And why do they get tax breaks and live like kings off of MY paycheck? The systemic racism is ridiculous because they get to burn cities and get practically rewarded for it!! But if I tell a joke or say the N word LIKE THEY DO ALL THE TIME I get cancelled!!

Women? Jesus Christ they get everything handed to them on a platter and they�re all WHORES AND SLUTS that won�t sleep with me or give me a chance. They can�t even act like women did in the 50s when they knew their place and raised kids like they were supposed to.

Empathy is for the weak. Empathy leads to socialism and this is AMERICA GOD DAMMIT. You feel sorry for them and they become dependent on you and then the country goes broke.

People like this also don't think anger is an emotion. Their anger is, to them, logical and dispassionate. Like you said, anything else is weak, "emotional", feminine nonsense to them. Not realizing that the crybaby tears they cry every day over coffee makers or shoes or whatever manufactured item of the day makes them look like absolute emotional children. Maybe they think that showing empathy will short circuit their righteous anger or something. I honestly can't figure it out. Trying to raise a son in the deep south has been a challenge - he deals with a lot of this in school and I don't want him to lose his sensitivity or compassion.

# ? Feb 27, 2023 13:51

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

The number of right-wingers I've met who don't think their emotions "count" as emotions is absolutely, mind-bogglingly insane, and has made me realize that when they say emotion they really mean "empathy". Disgust, anger, jealousy, pride, contempt, fear (the kind they feel, anyway), satisfaction, not a one of them apparently count as an emotion.

# ? Feb 27, 2023 15:38

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

PhazonLink posted:

does the dilbert burrito inventor still live in a dilbert sharped castle house?

also i dont think he has fuckyou levels of money unless he saved and invested all his money into safe index funds.

I think he either lost the house or had to sell it after his first divorce, along with a non-trivial amount of the rest of his wealth. You can kinda sorta pinpoint that moment where he went from engineer-brain cartoonist with some worrying tendencies more toward full chuddom he's at now.

# ? Feb 27, 2023 16:29

Nebrilos: Oct 9, 2012

Murgos posted:

This illustrates one of my least favorite conservative religious bogeymen, �without fear of god to make men behave we would all just suddenly descend into murderous rapine and barbarism.�

As though there aren�t billions of people living without fear of a sky daddy that will spank them for being bad right this very minute.

If the only reason you haven�t murdered me and made chattel of my family is because of your fear of retribution then you are absolutely the problem and should not be a member of any society of people.

There's another side to this argument that I was thinking about. Christians are infamous for committing terrible, terrible crimes, both historically (slavery, genocide of the Indians) and very recently (rape committed by Christian priests, even the war crimes committed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam were mostly committed by Christians, weren't they?). Even belief in god doesn't seem to stop people from "descending into murderous rapine and barbarism".

# ? Feb 27, 2023 17:26

Mellow Seas: Oct 9, 2012; Can't post for 10 years!

GlyphGryph posted:

The number of right-wingers I've met who don't think their emotions "count" as emotions is absolutely, mind-bogglingly insane, and has made me realize that when they say emotion they really mean "empathy".

"Facts don't care about your feelings.

However, facts are very concerned with my feelings, and will bend however they need to in order to accommodate them."

# ? Feb 27, 2023 18:03

Sexual Aluminum: Jun 21, 2003; is made of candy; Soiled Meat

BiggerBoat posted:

Thanks to whoever posted those Ben Shapiro book takedowns.

He's one of the worst writers I've ever...uh...heard.

Wondering if anyone has any similar podcasts that dor read alongs and tear down bad books

Check out I don't Even Own a Television

# ? Feb 27, 2023 19:09

nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

BiggerBoat posted:

Thanks to whoever posted those Ben Shapiro book takedowns.

He's one of the worst writers I've ever...uh...heard.

Wondering if anyone has any similar podcasts that dor read alongs and tear down bad books

Sexual Aluminum posted:

Check out I don't Even Own a Television

Those dudes are great.

Jos� (the YouTuber, not the SA mod) has also done some pretty well-done take downs of Benny Shap's attempts at fiction, both True Allegiance and his collection of short stories from which the negative review "Meet our new Ayn Rand" that he turned around into a cover blurb for the novel came from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9jhtD5al6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7CaKL5Ebw4

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 01:41

skeleton warrior: Nov 12, 2016

GlyphGryph posted:

The number of right-wingers I've met who don't think their emotions "count" as emotions is absolutely, mind-bogglingly insane, and has made me realize that when they say emotion they really mean "empathy". Disgust, anger, jealousy, pride, contempt, fear (the kind they feel, anyway), satisfaction, not a one of them apparently count as an emotion.

It's tied into toxic masculinity. "Emotions" are things that women have, and why you can't trust women, etc., etc., therefore the things that is it acceptable for men to feel: anger and pride (and all variants around those two, as you detail) can't possibly be emotions.

# ? Feb 27, 2023 22:29

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