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Oasx posted:I’m a big Agents of Shield fan, from the twist in season 1, to season 2,3 and 4 I think the show was great. I still enjoyed 5 through 7 quite a bit, they're a step down from season 4 but by that point the strength of the characters makes up for a lot of the other shortcomings. Sousa was a great addition too. also I give AoS a lot of credit for having a way more diverse cast than other Marvel projects (pre-Black Panther and Shang Chi anyway)
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Everyone posted:I'm pretty sure the situation with Loki being segregated in the TVA is fairly temporary. Figure a good bit of the fun with the character will be eventually watching Tom Hiddleston as Loki bounce off a bunch of other characters once he gets back into the wider MCU. Meanwhile, given the post-credit scene from Love and Thunder, I guess if they wanted to they could bring back Natalie Portman, Idris Elba and others in some kind of Valhalla series. Yeah there's zero chance Thor and Loki don't close out their MCU journey together
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Rarity posted:Yeah there's zero chance Thor and Loki don't close out their MCU journey together I'd say it's a non-zero chance if for no other reason than because Chris Hemsworth appears to be stepping away from acting for the sake of his own health for the moment, so he may not want to return even for a minor TV show appearance. That said, I'd certainly think it's plausible they'll have an epilogue together, and have even suggested that it's likely myself in this very thread in the past and I think I may have even said that I'd probably find it quite enjoyable and emotive if it does happen as a final moment for the two characters; I don't think "I enjoyed this" is incompatible with "but I wish they'd done it differently", especially when I hope that Loki and the TVA remain sequestered off in their own corner of the MCU even within Disney+ shows until they're ready to wrap things up and that Loki only returns to the regular MCU to walk off into the sunset with Thor.
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gey muckle mowser posted:also I give AoS a lot of credit for having a way more diverse cast than other Marvel projects (pre-Black Panther and Shang Chi anyway) Yea there was a lot of it where the main cast is pretty much entirely women and people of colour. The only character who sucked was Deke but even the show knew that. Without see season 2 of Loki i don't want to make any predictions, but at the same time, there is no way they keep Loki out of the main films entirely. At least he'll show up in Kang Dynasty. Its too bad everyone but Banner is gone from Avengers, so other than him, Fury and Valkyrie, no major characters have encountered the earlier Loki, so seeing them deal with one who has kinda worked through his poo poo and is an ally would be interesting.
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What Deke is awesome and I only hope we get to see Director Deke in some multiverse down the road
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Deke's actor is playing Buggy in that Netflix One Piece live-action show, which, uh, okay
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Deke Squad was great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyKIzd93l0A But again, that whole run of season 7 was the best sort of cheesy fun.
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I love that the lyrics to this are slightly wrong all over the place, because he was probably just trying to recall it from memory... which is probably how all of my songs would end up if I were to get Yesterday'd and had the same idea.
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Everyone posted:I'm pretty sure the situation with Loki being segregated in the TVA is fairly temporary. Figure a good bit of the fun with the character will be eventually watching Tom Hiddleston as Loki bounce off a bunch of other characters once he gets back into the wider MCU. Meanwhile, given the post-credit scene from Love and Thunder, I guess if they wanted to they could bring back Natalie Portman, Idris Elba and others in some kind of Valhalla series. Natalie Portman explicitly wanted out of the MCU. According to Wahiti, Portman only agreed to come back for L&T when he promised that the film would kill off Jane.
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I mean Portman also transformed her body for the role so its not like it was some kind of indebted role filling out a contract. I think the takeaway is more than Portman didn't want to do some open ended 3 picture deal where she had to film cameos for other movies and keep working out like a fiend in perpetuity. But Love and Thunder gave her a complete story so she apparently got on board. So theoretically if someone offered another complete story down the line she'd list. I dunno. I don't know her. But I think its a difference between "don't want to be part of the MCU" and "don't want to make the MCU my fulltime job."
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I could see her coming back in some darkest hour thing in some other Thor appearance as a valkyrie and kicking rear end for a few minutes and going "I will always love you Thor" and going back to Valhalla. Hell, they might even just kill Thor and have her take him to Valhalla.
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I could see her doing something like that or some kind of multiverse cameo. I definitely think the big Secret Wars/Endgame finale might be a huge cast of cameos from the multiverse like Agent Carter and Deadpool coming together to stop Kang. So Portman could return for something like that. I just don’t imagine she’d sign in for a multi film situation knowing what that means.
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To me it just seemed like leaving the door open in the event she felt like coming back, but they pretty much closed the book on her character.
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twistedmentat posted:Hell, they might even just kill Thor and have her take him to Valhalla. Then his new daughter can join Morgan Stark and start the Orphan-vengers
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TwoPair posted:Then his new daughter can join Morgan Stark and start the Orphan-vengers Yea can have her as, wait, what was Thor's daughter called in the comics? I know actual Thor's daughter is Thrud, but I remember in a few comics that take place in the future there was one that had a different name. I'm sure at some point we're gonna get something where someone goes to some horrible future and the ragtag group of heroes is grown up versions of young ones now.
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Yeah you have to do a dystopian future episode eventually. That’s just genre law. I don’t think they’ve done time loop yet either.
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I think I remember negative sentiments towards the MCU from Idras Elba as well, so as far as I'm concerned mcu Valhalla is just "good end" for the characters played by actors who wanna be done... and I'm OK with that. If steve rogers wants to come back for some kind of brief epic moment though I won't complain, but they broke their own rules to give him that ending so I kinda doubt it.
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah you have to do a dystopian future episode eventually. That’s just genre law. I don’t think they’ve done time loop yet either. MCU 2099
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twistedmentat posted:I'm sure at some point we're gonna get something where someone goes to some horrible future and the ragtag group of heroes is grown up versions of young ones now. Buddy, that's just us naturally reaching the year 2035 when this will all literally happen.
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tsob posted:I'd say it's a non-zero chance if for no other reason than because Chris Hemsworth appears to be stepping away from acting for the sake of his own health for the moment, so he may not want to return even for a minor TV show appearance. That said, I'd certainly think it's plausible they'll have an epilogue together, and have even suggested that it's likely myself in this very thread in the past and I think I may have even said that I'd probably find it quite enjoyable and emotive if it does happen as a final moment for the two characters; I don't think "I enjoyed this" is incompatible with "but I wish they'd done it differently", especially when I hope that Loki and the TVA remain sequestered off in their own corner of the MCU even within Disney+ shows until they're ready to wrap things up and that Loki only returns to the regular MCU to walk off into the sunset with Thor. For my part I want to see nu-Loki as part of the greater MCU. I think the TVA was necessary to his development because it stripped away all of his usual powers, trappings and baggage. We all kind of mocked the "fast-forward redemption" Loki went through in the first episode of the series, but let's take a second look at what was happening there. Toward the end Original Loki has begun to question his life choices and started trying to maybe reboot his relationships with Thor and others. Then Thanos killed him. The End. Nu-Loki didn't have to question anything. He learned beyond a shadow of a doubt that his life had been essentially engineered toward dysfunction and failure. Most people in their lives are the heroes of their own story. In the TVA Loki learned that he was never the hero, never even the protagonist. He was always a prop/supporting character in other peoples' stories. Finally he learned that as a Variant he by definition did not have to follow that path. That he could be his own Loki, his own person, whatever that comes to mean.
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Technowolf posted:MCU 2099 Seems possible but that seems too far out to do the old “your my father” thing. But I definitely could 2099 and other stuff like that becoming a potential thing as a consequence of this whole Multiverse/Kang Dynasty arch. Deadpool 3 seems like the first logical way to look at how they might handle that kind of thing but we’re pretty heavy into multiverse so it seems like just a matter of time before they tell a story explicitly outside 616. Or whatever number the MCU is. I mean I guess What If is already that. But like live action thing. And 2099 seems obvious.
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Technowolf posted:MCU MC2
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Disney is reportedly considering selling their 67% stake in Hulu to Comcast, getting out of most non-ABC/Disney+ TV content, and purchasing the distribution rights to solo Hulk and Namor movies. The new CEO says they plan to "focus more on its core franchises and aggressively curate our general entertainment content." Does Disney even have much TV content outside of ABC and its subsidiary channels (like Disney Channel) and Disney+ anymore (other than ESPN, which is being spun off into its own thing outside of the TV division)? I think they have pretty much not done any Netflix, Hulu, or licensing/production deals with other channels for multiple years at this point. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/disney-could-sell-its-67-stake-in-hulu-to-buy-up-more-marvel-rights-citi-123021962.html
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Yeah, ultimately I don't see what value they're getting out of Hulu currently, especially if they're more willing to use the adult content functionality they've implemented on D+. Not sure the solo movie rights are really that valuable for Hulk and Namor at this point, but it would probably be nice to get those back in the box finally. Though if this gets a Maestro focused movie who also later takes part in Secret Wars, I'm in.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Disney is reportedly considering selling their 67% stake in Hulu to Comcast, getting out of most non-ABC/Disney+ TV content, and purchasing the distribution rights to solo Hulk and Namor movies. I don't think I've touched Hulu for years. I kind of forgot it was even a still a thing.
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Teek posted:Yeah, ultimately I don't see what value they're getting out of Hulu currently, especially if they're more willing to use the adult content functionality they've implemented on D+. Hulk is one of the few OG Avengers they have left. Maybe the only one, depending on the status/health of Hemsworth and Renner. I don't blame them for wanting to at least solidify their options moving forward with him. Namor is probably more valuable, having just made his debut in WF, being one of the most popular things in the movie, and ending the movie not entirely as a bad guy. There are movie options there.
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I don't know why I can't comprehend the writing but am I wrong in that it's not saying Disney would be selling Hulu to Comcast, but that if Disney wants to sell Hulu they would also have to buy out Comcast's minority share.
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The Dave posted:I don't know why I can't comprehend the writing but am I wrong in that it's not saying Disney would be selling Hulu to Comcast, but that if Disney wants to sell Hulu they would also have to buy out Comcast's minority share. It says that the Hulu contract gives Comcast the option of requiring Disney to buy out their shares for $27.5 billion if they are exiting the company entirely. The Citibank analyst is speculating that they will sell their 67% control of Hulu to Comcast (giving it 100% ownership of Hulu) for some cash and the distribution rights to Hulk and Namor movies (estimated at about $300 million). They could sell it to someone else (and in that case Comcast could require Disney to buy them out if they wanted) but the Citi analyst is speculating they will sell to Comcast.
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It’ll make Dis+ poorer in other countries. For example the EU/UK doesn’t have Hulu, so D+ has a section called Star which features Hulu content, making it one of the better streaming services right now.
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Yeah D+ is pretty decent in the UK at the moment (even if some Hulu and FX shows are still tied up in deals on other platforms). As much as I want Disney not to own literally everything it'd be a shame to see them lose a lot of that stuff.
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I assume that also means D+ won't be bundled with Hulu anymore. Won't be worth subscribing to D+ for maybe 3 shows a year.
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:Hope they get theme park rights east of the Mississippi in the deal too So...Disney World?
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thrawn527 posted:So...Disney World? Universal still has rights to use certain Marvel characters east of the Mississippi at their Islands of Adventure theme park. That's why there's a Spider-Man ride and a Hulk coaster.
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Arist posted:Universal still has rights to use certain Marvel characters east of the Mississippi at their Islands of Adventure theme park. That's why there's a Spider-Man ride and a Hulk coaster. Oh right. I was just replying to the “East of the Mississippi” comment with regards to theme parks, especially when Disney is a part of the conversation. But I get what OP was talking about now. Hulk is my favorite coaster. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Mar 4, 2023 |
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thrawn527 posted:Oh right. I was just replying to the “East of the Mississippi” comment with regards to theme parks, especially when Disney is a part of the conversation. But I get what OP was talking about now. Yeah, Universal's Islands of Adventure has a whole Marvel section with all the big and famous characters plastered everywhere. The Hulk roller coaster is fantastic, and at the time the Spider-Man ride was state of the art augmented reality. There is also an X-men (Storm) ride that is like a kiddy tilt a whirl type ride. The free fall ride is Dr. Doom based (which has a really fun instructional video instructing you, a loyal citizen of Latveria on how to best serve Doom by going on this ride so he can extract fear pheromones). Actually, that area has the best waiting of most theme parks, with longish videos and decorations. The Spider Man line takes you through the Daily Bugle offices where JJJ is yelling constantly in the background.
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It seems like that contract is mostly for Avengers characters, because last year Disney opened a Guardians ride at Epcot
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FlamingLiberal posted:It seems like that contract is mostly for Avengers characters, because last year Disney opened a Guardians ride at Epcot I believe the deal is character IP specific, but I've forgotten the details. I know the solo movie rights was "literally just The Incredible Hulk", though.
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