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I have trouble reconciling that a grown man without diagnosed severe mental disabilities, can’t figure out his own location in 2023. It almost feels like Mr bean fanfic
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Flowers for QAnon posted:I have trouble reconciling that a grown man without diagnosed severe mental disabilities, can’t figure out his own location in 2023. It almost feels like Mr bean fanfic What is learned helplessness?
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Feb 27, 2023 22:35
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Oh the undiagnosed mental illness part is very simple to explain. You see, he doesn't believe in there being such a thing as mental illness. Brain damage? Sure that's real and a physical thing. ADHD? nah, just lazy. Depression? nah, just lazy. Schizophrenic? nah, just acting up. Pointing out that he has this tick where he sniffles every time he gets agitated? gently caress you, he has a cold (which apparently he has been having for...45 years now) Epilepsy? ehhhh....might be faking it for attention. Unable to support yourself due to factors like these? Should just lie down and die in the gutters and not be a burden on society. He has gotten better with time and his wife wearing away at his stubborn brand of stupid, but yeah. Can't fix what doesn't want to admit its broke. Edit: I'm willing to cut him a lot of slack on the lack of ability to find his position, since he basically hasn't had a moment's rest to find solid ground to stand on for the entire first 16 days of his arrival to China. Trying to think rationally when you are jetlagged, keeping track of two kids and getting shat on by your wife at all times while also having to work from "home" is going to mess with anyone's head. Getting helpful advice from his youngest and traditionally most helpless little brother is just not something he can process at that stage. SerthVarnee fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Feb 27, 2023 |
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Feb 27, 2023 22:36
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he should have hooked up with a beijinger, but he would have had to actively go to china, since anyone that leaves beijing don't wanna go back
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Feb 27, 2023 22:45
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Sounds like a real piece of work!
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Feb 27, 2023 22:50
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On the plus side, it seems like things are going better and better for them for every day that passes at the moment, so it looks like the crisis has been avoided or at least postponed for now. Marriage might still end up in the dumpster once its time to go back on the plane, but it seems like the rest of the vacation plan is going to hold and be somewhere between tolerable and enjoyable. So I'm quite pleased with the outcome of this event. Don't think I've had such a lovely weekend in....20 years...though.
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SerthVarnee posted:Oh the undiagnosed mental illness part is very simple to explain Starting to come around on the idea of the whole hypothetical kidnapping thing.
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Feb 28, 2023 00:50
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The more you post, the more I start to sympathize with the wife.
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Feb 28, 2023 00:58
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Yeah I think maybe he should just stay there.
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Feb 28, 2023 00:58
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Tomn posted:The more you post, the more I start to sympathize with the wife. big commonality on that one with the other previous western dudes too, lol
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Feb 28, 2023 00:59
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As a complete aside: How is this bloke dealing with the food situation? Coz given everything that we have been told about him, I cannot imagine him being anything near an adventurous sort. So may be frightened of all the scary spices and noodles and be missing the Danish version of chicken tendies.
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Feb 28, 2023 01:16
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BrigadierSensible posted:the Danish version of chicken tendies. From my own experiences with my sister's in-laws, that would be bread. Shitloads of bread in multiple varieties.
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Feb 28, 2023 01:27
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Bad news about bread in China
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Cadmiel posted:If things go south with your brother and his wife, it sounds like it'll be very difficult for him to have any legal recourse to get the children out. China does not recognize dual citizenship, and if the kids entered on Chinese passports the ability of Danish consular officials to help will be limited. If they got married in the PRC and he has any of that documentation that could help make a case that she can't take the kids and cut him out, but it would be at the discretion of local officials and if he doesn't speak Mandarin or know anyone else, he'd be hosed. I'd say he needs to try to salvage the relationship as much as possible, at least until they can leave China again, and to get in touch with Danish consular officers as soon as he can so they know there's a possible parental abduction case. The reason I felt I was bouncing off of Chinese textbooks was because of them using characters pretty early on. The characters they give you are usually high frequency, but fairly complex. It can be quite overwhelming to have to start memorizing characters that you need without learning how characters even work really. The solution I found was the Heisig series of books "Remembering X". They have them for Kanji, Traditional Hanzi, and Simplified Hanzi. I used "Remembering Traditional Hanzi" since those are the most relevant for Taiwan. It took me about a summer to get through the book, and then I did flashcards after that. Being in Taiwan helped a bunch because every time I learned a new character, I could see it on the street somewhere, be it a sign or a poster or a newspaper headline. What really helped me was learning the characters in English so that I had the meanings down before I had to worry about Chinese grammar or pronunciation. Then, when I saw dialog or vocabulary in the Chinese textbook, working out the meanings wasn't that bad and it was just a question of memorizing how characters were pronounced. The other issue I had with Chinese textbooks is that I think they do a poo poo job of explaining pinyin construction. Like, they do a good enough job saying "these are initial sounds" and "these are final sounds" but they don't do a great job of explaining that certain groups of consonants only use certain vowels and certain combinations that look legal are never seen in Chinese. Once I had figured out the pattern on my own, getting the pronunciation down was straightforward enough. As an example to the above, consider that the "i" in zhi, chi, and shi is pronounced entirely differently than how it is pronounced in ji, qi, and xi. Also consider that "ju" is actually "jü", but it's never specified because it can only be the one sound, whereas for "lu" you actually have to specify "lu" vs "lü" (and the digital input for the latter is usually "lv").
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Feb 28, 2023 01:45
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Tomn posted:The more you post, the more I start to sympathize with the wife. This is always the case
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Feb 28, 2023 01:52
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Atopian posted:Bad news about bread in China
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Atopian posted:Bad news about bread in China don't tell me that sliced bread is toast. it isn't toast until you toast it
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Feb 28, 2023 02:19
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last time i was in gz i'd hit up this chain bakery on my way to ikea. they had nice approximations of baguettes, perfect for making subs with or just having with dill pickled herring. had the texure of those electrically cooked japanese breads
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Feb 28, 2023 02:21
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the curse of the steamed bread
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Atlas Hugged posted:The reason I felt I was bouncing off of Chinese textbooks was because of them using characters pretty early on. The characters they give you are usually high frequency, but fairly complex. It can be quite overwhelming to have to start memorizing characters that you need without learning how characters even work really. This is interesting, I studied the characters and went with trying to understand the thing they were abstracting, I even came across a book other than heiseg that explained the abstractiong and radicals. However my experience going down that road, was ultimately not successful for me, and the few times I ve talked about it with other I advise them not to do it. When I was in china I amused the tour guide by being able fake read some simple signs.
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Feb 28, 2023 02:30
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Booty Pageant posted:last time i was in gz i'd hit up this chain bakery on my way to ikea. they had nice approximations of baguettes, perfect for making subs with or just having with dill pickled herring. had the texure of those electrically cooked japanese breads In the 80's in HK one of the big deals about a visit to Macau was the actually good bread.
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Feb 28, 2023 02:48
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Now I'm picturing an alternate universe China where instead of electric rice cookers every family has a breadmaker
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Feb 28, 2023 03:39
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Bought tickets for China for end of March until beginning of May, hoping I can land a job at the spy balon factory.
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Feb 28, 2023 03:49
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My friend is sending me a Datung rice cooker, that classic green one, and I am so stoked
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Cool Kids Club Soda posted:My friend is sending me a Datung rice cooker, that classic green one, and I am so stoked I got a Datung shirt from Uniqlo with the little Datung man logo, looks great
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Feb 28, 2023 04:01
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MarcusSA posted:Yeah I think maybe he should just stay there. Maybe he shouldn't, for the wife's sake Just, drat I can see why she's so mean to him. Sorry about your brother being all like that SerthVarnee.
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Ups_rail posted:This is interesting, I studied the characters and went with trying to understand the thing they were abstracting, I even came across a book other than heiseg that explained the abstractiong and radicals. Your mileage may vary I guess. I liked Heisig because while it broke characters down by radicals and lumped some characters together into broad categories, it doesn't let the etymology get int the way of just learning a mnemonic for the characters. Heisig often labels radicals with terms that are not directly related to the real etymology of the radical, but are convenient for memorizing them and making associations. Some linguists and language learners are annoyed by this because it means someone can build a Chinese character using the correct radicals, but can't actually explain why those radicals are used. Mechanically, it's not any different. If you follow the method, you'll have a much better spatial awareness of how radicals are combined and what the various possible positions and permutations are, but you won't know the genuine etymology of many characters. To me, that isn't important because you'll still know what the character means and you'll have no issue recognizing and writing them.
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kntfkr posted:Bought tickets for China for end of March until beginning of May, hoping I can land a job at the spy balon factory. i can see it clearly now, the chinese startup "balon" corners the market for high altitude balloons for everyone to use, like what dji did with drones
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Booty Pageant posted:i can see it clearly now, the chinese startup "balon" corners the market for high altitude balloons for everyone to use, like what dji did with drones Balon-yi
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Feb 28, 2023 05:57
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Fur20 posted:the curse of the steamed bread You call it steamed despite the fact it is obviously baked
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Steamed bread is p good.
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Whilst we are talking about Chinese bread. Forgive the stupid question, but does anybody here know what the egg and chive fried bread thing that I used to have all the time for breakfast in Fuzhou and Chengdu is called? Coz I loved it, and haven't found it anywhere outside of China. Again, sorry for the stupid question.
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Feb 28, 2023 07:35
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Has he considered selling the in-laws house and fleeing to Denmark?
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BrigadierSensible posted:Whilst we are talking about Chinese bread. Pan-fried like a Dan Bing or deep fried like a You Tiao?
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Feb 28, 2023 08:17
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Or chive pockets?
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GoutPatrol posted:Pan-fried like a Dan Bing or deep fried like a You Tiao? Man, Chinese breakfast kicks rear end. I never eat breakfast in the US, but I'm getting up early to go walk down the street and grab some of these, and a sack of pork buns.
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People learn differently but I also found the Heisig method super easy. I was learning ~40 characters a day when I was really going at it.
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Atlas Hugged posted:The other issue I had with Chinese textbooks is that I think they do a poo poo job of explaining pinyin construction. Like, they do a good enough job saying "these are initial sounds" and "these are final sounds" but they don't do a great job of explaining that certain groups of consonants only use certain vowels and certain combinations that look legal are never seen in Chinese. Once I had figured out the pattern on my own, getting the pronunciation down was straightforward enough. i had a terrible time discriminating —n from —ng finials until i realized —n always comes with a short vowel and —ng always comes with a long one. No teacher ever pointed this out to me and a few have outright denied it exists but it’s absolutely the more reliable way to tell those sounds apart
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Rene Chang would know what to do.
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