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Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

the interviewees/interviewers should have some method of communicating issues that takes less than a minute to initiate (email, phone call, etc)

i give coworkers 10 minutes for real meetings so they get 10 minutes unless something came up and was communicated then i figure it out based on the situation

i assume many adults would do something similar but i am always surprised/annoyed when they dont

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Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



for my phone interview at google, there was some problem where i dialed the number correctly, it put me on hold, and never alerted the interviewer that i was waiting. for all he knew, i was 5 minutes or so late until i disconnected and tried again and got through. i want to say that i ended up using a whole different thing (voice bridge vs not, or direct call to his office number, or something like that) to make it work. anyway, sometimes technology fucks up so don't be too much of a stickler imo

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the interviewees/interviewers should have some method of communicating issues that takes less than a minute to initiate (email, phone call, etc)

yeah, but "should" is doing a lot of work there, especially if you have e.g. an east coast recruiter and it's a west-coast end-of-work-day type thing

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

yeah "should" assuming the best world.

catastrophes can happen, but they can also be communicated later as well, and sometimes people's patience have already worn out, that sucks and that's life

i hate having to qualify everything

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

nudgenudgetilt posted:

lolwat

a primary responsibility of the job is showing up to meetings on time via computer. this particular candidate went so far as to insist we use their scheduling software and their video conferencing software for the call instead of our own. i'm definitely not calling someone to see why they didn't show up when i could instead start looking at the resume for my next call.

i'm not so cruel as to only give 2-3 minutes, but by 8 minutes you better have a pretty loving amusing story for me, and a total no-email/no-show is getting a generic rejection letter.

if you're hiring people because they're great at getting on the computer on time then I can see exactly where you're coming from. I assumed you were hiring specialist professionals whose skills are desperately in demand.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



on the one hand, everybody has poo poo Happen

on the other, adults should be able to make and keep appointments and it's a real bad look if you can't even do that

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

champagne posting posted:

if you're hiring people because they're great at getting on the computer on time then I can see exactly where you're coming from. I assumed you were hiring specialist professionals whose skills are desperately in demand.

where do you get the idea they're desperately in demand? i have a massive queue of applicants to work though, and it grows daily.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

nudgenudgetilt posted:

where do you get the idea they're desperately in demand? i have a massive queue of applicants to work though, and it grows daily.

it was an assumption

Truman Peyote
Oct 11, 2006



very important points being brought up here. one more option is that maybe a bear walks into someone's house minutes before their interview and mauls them before they can join the call, leaving them incapable of shooting me an e-mail to clear up exactly what happened. i don't know how i would recover from this scenario

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



if you can't implement A* while fighting a bear what are you even doing

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
The only no-show I ever had, I called the candidates phone, and discovered that the recruiter had not taken time zones into account when scheduling.

The recruiter told me they'd set up a different interview with the candidate, but I don't actually know what happened in the end. It wasn't with me, because I had zero overlap between reasonable working hours in my time since zone vs. times that the candidate was available in their time zone.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
one thing i kept from my upbringing and broadened is that non-time zoned times dont exist to me

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


since I started being on the interviewer side of the table recruiters have hosed up the interview in one way or another at least 50% of the time

Truman Peyote
Oct 11, 2006



I once was hung up on by a candidate during an interview. and based on the other interviewer's behavior, can't blame them

Truman Peyote
Oct 11, 2006



my behaviour was above reproach tho

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
i interviewed for a job once where the interviewer vaped a fat cloud on camera during the interview

i almost hung up there and then but it was like data engineering for a political party and it would have been fuckin fascinating

Its a Rolex
Jan 23, 2023

Hey, posting is posting. You emptyquote, I turn my monitor on; what's the difference?

Truman Peyote posted:

very important points being brought up here. one more option is that maybe a bear walks into someone's house minutes before their interview and mauls them before they can join the call, leaving them incapable of shooting me an e-mail to clear up exactly what happened. i don't know how i would recover from this scenario

this is why i preemptively ask the interviewee for a doctor's note to explain their absence

Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life

Corla Plankun posted:

i interviewed for a job once where the interviewer vaped a fat cloud on camera during the interview

i almost hung up there and then but it was like data engineering for a political party and it would have been fuckin fascinating


what a power move that person sounds rad as hell.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
coolness highly depends upon if nicotine or thc vape imo

Asleep Style
Oct 20, 2010

I'm not sure if this has more to do with me or the economy but I'm now getting more recruiters trying to connect with me so that I'll hire their candidates than recruiters trying to hire me

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

Truman Peyote posted:

I once was hung up on by a candidate during an interview. and based on the other interviewer's behavior, can't blame them

well what happened??

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

i think you're generally right. the well of recruiters trying to hire seems to have largely dried up. on the other hand, the number of recruiting companies seems to have exploded in count

job postings are pretty much spam these days

Dijkstracula
Mar 18, 2003

You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

Jabor posted:

The only no-show I ever had, I called the candidates phone, and discovered that the recruiter had not taken time zones into account when scheduling
oh man I forgot this happened with my first google phone screen in like 2010, some guy in Zurich phones me at 7:00 AM west coast time and so I yank myself out of bed to try to generate all strings of balanced parentheses or some bullshit

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

Truman Peyote posted:

very important points being brought up here. one more option is that maybe a bear walks into someone's house minutes before their interview and mauls them before they can join the call, leaving them incapable of shooting me an e-mail to clear up exactly what happened. i don't know how i would recover from this scenario

adding this scenario to my interviewing rubrick, both as a scenario as a question

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

dioxazine posted:

i think you're generally right. the well of recruiters trying to hire seems to have largely dried up. on the other hand, the number of recruiting companies seems to have exploded in count

job postings are pretty much spam these days

it's really bad to the point that i've been using a recruiting company to cut through it

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
i should find a wfh job one day, i fuvking hate commuting

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003
have you tried buying a nicer car?

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
went into the office today for a larf, it wasnt fun, wfh 4 ever

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


Shoulda went to the cabin instead

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

PokeJoe posted:

Shoulda went to the cabin instead

boy howdy

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


i'm in the office all week this week

about all I can handle in a year

Its a Rolex
Jan 23, 2023

Hey, posting is posting. You emptyquote, I turn my monitor on; what's the difference?
Not exactly interviewing, but career and comp related vent/question.

I left a startup a few months ago, exercised all my options on the way out for the low price I got in at. It took 2 months for the CEO to sign it, and then my funds went through the next day.

Then it just sat there on Carts, nothing happening. This went on for a month and I emailed the CFO, who emailed the CEO, and nothing happened. I emailed later that week exactly 90 days after I left because I was worried the 90 day limit might cause an issue since they hadn't done poo poo. Crickets in return, but the 90 day time limit wasn't a problem because I started the process early. I triple checked this on Carta to make sure it hasn't been silently canceled or something.

Yesterday I filed an issue on Carta (a month after that email) to see if that would get anything done. Finally this morning, more than 4 months since I quit, the CEO clicked the box and transferred the shares to me, and I'm officially rid of those assholes.

What was the correct way to proceed forward in this situation, should it arise again? Email for a paper trail is the right thing, but is there a certain point I should just grab a lawyer and have them send an angry letter? Do I just spam the CFO every day? I'm so glad to be out of that place

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


DELETE CASCADE posted:

have you tried buying a nicer car?
one with two wheels and pedals

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


my other car is an office chair i wheel from the good screen to the bad screen

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

jesus WEP posted:

one with two wheels and pedals

a car with two steering wheels sounds like a challenge to operate

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

a car with two steering wheels sounds like a challenge to operate

it's a good way to teach someone how to drive

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

a car with two steering wheels sounds like a challenge to operate

this is just pair programming

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Its a Rolex posted:

What was the correct way to proceed forward in this situation, should it arise again? Email for a paper trail is the right thing, but is there a certain point I should just grab a lawyer and have them send an angry letter? Do I just spam the CFO every day? I'm so glad to be out of that place

you don't have to jump straight to a lawyer but keep escalating the tone in your emails until you finally say you'll need to lawyer up if they don't get their poo poo together. after that if they still don't respond then yeah, lawyer time

AWWNAW
Dec 30, 2008

I haven’t gotten much recruiter mail lately but this week got hit up by 3 and they surprisingly led with with salary ranges (all pay cuts) and each was some form of “hybrid” in office 1-3 days a week. maybe some Chicago companies see an opportunity to push offers down and people back into offices

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


if they lead with a number it's your duty to politely decline while telling them the salary is too low. help out your fellow touchers

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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


PIZZA.BAT posted:

if they lead with a number it's your duty to politely decline while telling them the salary is too low. help out your fellow touchers

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