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That's a bummer but I guess at least they clarified now instead of letting people get psyched up for months and then delivering another little community update. Fixes will be good though, hopefully.
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Hempuli posted:A large update the size of a small update
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Ariong posted:LMAO they changed the blog post to make the update sound less exciting. My assumption is that they changed it for legalese self protection reasons rather than that really indicating a change in scope, I'm still pretty certain this will be on a larger scale than most Scream Fortress or Smissmas updates
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I'm going to sue robin walker because the update sucks
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I was promised an update-sized update, with "who knows what else?!". This update is substantially smaller than an update, and multiple Valve employees knew exactly what else. This flagrantly fraudulent advertising cannot stand.
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Valve is terrified of liability for underdelivering on promises.
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Ditocoaf posted:Valve is terrified of delivering
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drrockso20 posted:My assumption is that they changed it for legalese self protection reasons rather than that really indicating a change in scope, I'm still pretty certain this will be on a larger scale than most Scream Fortress or Smissmas updates There is absolutely no reality in which Valve gets sued because they made a blog post promising an “update-sized update.” In fact, “holiday-sized update” is actually a more concrete claim about the size of the update because it implies it will be on par with previous holiday updates. Similarly, “community fixes” is a more concrete claim than “who knows what else?”
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Ariong posted:There is absolutely no reality in which Valve gets sued because they made a blog post promising an “update-sized update.” In fact, “holiday-sized update” is actually a more concrete claim about the size of the update because it implies it will be on par with previous holiday updates. Similarly, “community fixes” is a more concrete claim than “who knows what else?” Not saying anyone would actually sue just that corporate lawyers sometimes can be excessive in their precautions
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I hope people read the sarcasm in my words a few posts up, but I'm making this other post just to be sure. Here, let me try this rephrase: Valve is going out of their way to avoid setting an expectation they won't meet, as they're famous for meeting expectations and are afraid they might be sued if they break that pattern.
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they're not afraid they might be sued, they're just afraid of people complaining and giving them bad press
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maybe if you try the joke a third time it might land, but knowing valve
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obviously this means team fortress 3 is being worked on............... obviously it means that......................
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Sankara posted:obviously this means team fortress 3 is being worked on............... obviously it means that...................... Team Fortress: Forever
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZTcojsVTG0 i missed some of these. what do you guys think of When cloaked spy can jump a little bit higher
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The only one of those I dislike is the amputator change. I think the fun of the amputator is how it's risky due to locking you in place, but can potentially provide a ton of healing. If you can just cancel it whenever it's no longer a fun gamble anymore.
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I don't think I've ever seen the amputator taunt do more healing than just swapping the beam around to whoever's getting crit heals. Maybe if you play on 32 player servers? The engineer changes seem really dumb, I hate every single one of them except the southern hospitality dispenser variant.
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Amputator actually heals at roughly the same rate as medigun, including the ramp up on targets that haven't recently been hurt. Except it can heal multiple. medigun heal rates are:
amputator taunt heals 105 total, or 315 out of combat, over the 4.4 second taunt. which means the heals per second are...
It doesn't overheal, but if you have 2+ injured teammates nearby you can get them back up to full much faster with this than with normal medigun heals. (Also it does build uber.) It's kind of insane how much value you can get from it under the right circumstances, you can take a group of injured teammates hanging out around a corner, unable to push, all the way up to full simultaneously. Genuinely quite underrated since everyone wants to run around with ubersaws all the time. LazyMaybe fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Feb 27, 2023 |
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Jabor posted:I don't think I've ever seen the amputator taunt do more healing than just swapping the beam around to whoever's getting crit heals. Maybe if you play on 32 player servers? i really like the speed pads because it means on 5cp maps where the spawns change constantly the engie doesnt become so severely hosed and can still help his teammates
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I don't think it helps as much as you'd think - if they're running back to the new spawn to place a speed pad, they could equally run back to place a teleporter. (Either way, they won't). In practice I think it would mostly mean nobody places teleporters because they'd much rather use a jump pad to place a sentry in a funny meme spot (even though they don't know how to wrangler jump to get into that spot the traditional way).
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i imagine people who play regularly on a niche balance mod server would be aware of sentry jumping, but i guess that makes some sense with the teleports, except that you wouldnt need to place both ends for you to do something meaningful for your team getting to the frontline quicker. idk, the few times i tried playing on these servers i had over 200 ping and got autokicked, even from the short lived brazillian server
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Jabor posted:I don't think it helps as much as you'd think - if they're running back to the new spawn to place a speed pad, they could equally run back to place a teleporter. (Either way, they won't). I'd think the upshot would be that you can just get the speed pad up and then you're in business without the additional step of trotting back and building a tele exit and trying to keep it up.
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I can see the speed pad being better for those maps where defenders have bit of a walk to the point but its generally too short for a teleport like dustbowl
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I like some of the stuff like spies getting some fun tricks but thought the bushwacka nerf was kind of funny - there can't possibly be enough snipers getting off jarate and landing a bushwacka hit on a pyro that is actively burning them for that to be a legit balance consideration, right?
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I haven’t played this game in a decade. What’ve I missed?
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RandolphCarter posted:I haven’t played this game in a decade. What’ve I missed? hats
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ArfJason posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZTcojsVTG0 These Sniper nerfs seem very bitter.
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sniper is widely considered the most dominant class these days, or at least the class that is most capable of taking over a server with regularity, so it isn't too shocking that rebalance attempts would address that. i like the ammo change personally
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sniper is definitely not the most dominant class, just the class that is the least fun to fight against visible tracers/lower ammo are completely reasonable sniper nerfs though.
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The problem is that they're huge nerfs to the sniper playstyles that are interesting to play against (dynamically move around the map, putting yourself at risk to get good angles on the opposing team) while not at all affecting the server-dominating and annoying to play against "park yourself next to a dispenser at the end of a sniper lane and use your superior aim to single-handedly destroy any attempt to push that way".
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Personally I think the ammo change is a meaningless one, it would need to be 5 or lower max ammo to have any real meaning My preferred solution is a simple one, all Sniper Rifles(except the Sydney Sleeper) would now operate off The Classic's rule of needing a full charge meter to get critical hits on headshots, this elimination of "Quick Scoping" would give Sniper a much needed slowing down in his TTK while still allowing him to do his job(he just takes longer to do it between each shot) while also not only buffing some of his weaker rifles(Sydney Sleeper and The Classic both benefit from this) but also making the differences between Stock, Bazaar Bargain, and Hitman's Heatmaker actually meaningful, doesn't really change much for the Machina/Shooting Star admittedly The fact that it would make Sniper Bots a lot less effective is a nice side benefit
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Jabor posted:The problem is that they're huge nerfs to the sniper playstyles that are interesting to play against (dynamically move around the map, putting yourself at risk to get good angles on the opposing team) while not at all affecting the server-dominating and annoying to play against "park yourself next to a dispenser at the end of a sniper lane and use your superior aim to single-handedly destroy any attempt to push that way". The fix for this one is to just increase the reload time a little. Mobile snipers can still play like pick classes but the ones parked on sightlines put out substantially less damage. You punish misses the same as the tracers, but tracers only punish snipers who are in creative spots while tracers don't matter for most camping snipers. Ammo capacity cut is a good one but 13 is very restrictive. That's about the same as the Huntsman but the difference is you can get a lot closer with that weapon. Probably like 16-18 is a good amount instead. cerious fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Feb 28, 2023 |
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drrockso20 posted:Personally I think the ammo change is a meaningless one, it would need to be 5 or lower max ammo to have any real meaning Add in Medics have an inherent 1 armor against sniper shots as well.
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why medic is literally already the strongest class in the game, there can be classes that are good at killing them
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Because sniper players in any fps always deserve to suffer.
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StealthArcher posted:Add in Medics have an inherent 1 armor against sniper shots as well. Nah, medics rightfully deserve to get owned.
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the holy poopacy posted:Nah, medics rightfully deserve to get owned. I remember getting a strange caber, and I was overjoyed enough to put two fun gimmick counters on it: Airborne enemies killed for funny midair collisions, and Medics killed. Had it for just a few days before The Caber Nerf happened and I could no longer scream out of the sky onto a Medic's head, turning them into a soup-like homogenate  
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