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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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captainbananas
Sep 11, 2002

Ahoy, Captain!

lobster shirt posted:

would love to know more about this

NOTE: I am not a bubblehead.

But imagine that you're too far up multiple other people's asses in a nearly literal sense 24/7 for months at a time to have any flexibility left to be too far up your own rear end

also anyone being up their own rear end has a legitimate, appreciable risk of leading to everyone around you (and you) dying in all sorts of ways, most of which would be pretty lovely (some would probably be pretty quick)

then imagine that the guy who largely made the nuclear navy - and the emphasis on nuclear subs - possible did it while getting shat on to the point where he was pulled from Oak Ridge labs and put in a new "office" in a decommissioned woman's shitter. But that didn't stop him and he eventually end-arounded his superiors and got Nimitz to buy into going full nuke. That guy was Hyman Rickover.

Rickover ran the nuclear side of the Navy for over thirty years. He didn't really give a gently caress about pretense, rank included. He DID give a huge poo poo about risk management and leadership characteristics, to the point where he personally interviewed every single officer seeking a position on any ship with a reactor (this includes carriers). Had to be tens of thousands of interviews over the decades. They were, by the accounts I have heard, non-traditional affairs.

But the effect of Rickover's management and priorities made for a subset of people who prioritized responsibility, quality control and risk management, and performance over pulling rank / knocking rings. Operations and management research has used his effect on USN submarine leadership and management as a case study of how to instill prioritizing those things in organizations where there has to be zero fault tolerance or else poo poo gets real bad real quick.

Reagan (who else) eventually squeezed him out (also age might have been a factor). I have much less confidence in his successors; I don't know what went down on the Connecticut beyond the unclassified reports that came out last spring, but it's probably a sign of things to come if the subs start losing their grip on the culture that Rickover helped build up.

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Al-Saqr posted:

huh if thats the case the fact it took the russians this long is really indicative of their lack of ability and how spent they are, why did i keep hearing that this city is a ukrainian meatgrinder if the numbers were that low

i don't think 2000 badly trained troops are defending under intense artillery fire and 'human waves' of Wagner troops and not breaking

Mr SuperAwesome
Apr 6, 2011

im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news

Al-Saqr posted:

ummmm

looking at the current map that sounds like a tremendously stupid and suicidal decision

saw a tweet earlier (cant find it and can't be hosed to) of some american merc apparently shipping out to bakhmut today, good luck with that one lol

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

OhFunny posted:

In a different flavor of news, the Chess Federation of Russia, which announced its intention to switch governing bodies from the European Chess Union to the Asian Chess Federation in April 2022, has been admitted to the Asian Chess Federation.

We'll see if other Russian sports federations make the switch from Europe to Asia.

I can already see the future geography books that have ASIA include Russia, Belarus, and maybe Turkey with EUROPE being defined as excluding those three.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

mlmp08 posted:

It's not really a fight, I started by just saying BrotherJayne had an inaccurate and incomplete understanding and provided links to evidence. Ardennes disagreed with one of those links, but apparently does not disagree with the UN's reporting about civilian killings in Izium, if I'm reading him correctly. I provided BrotherJayne a bunch of reporting from the UN and third parties who are not hte Ukrainian government. Hopefully now BrotherJayne's formerly inaccurate understanding of civilian deaths in northern Ukraine is improved based on the UN reporting.

Eh, fair enough. Given the evidence available I don't think it's a reasonable position to take that the Russian unit in Bucha didn't execute dozens of civilians, if that was indeed the position. Still not sure what the Izium talk was about.

CongoJack
Nov 5, 2009

Ask Why, Asshole
Ukraine wants their own Điện Biên Phủ and by god they will have it!

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Al-Saqr posted:

https://twitter.com/azgeopolitics/status/1630643948958957582?s=46&t=2X9GJZmsV7d5yED3xrD58A

welp i guess thats that, maybe the ukranians managed to withdraw or is it a disaster? i guess well find out soon.

also NBC with a special report in crimea

https://twitter.com/azgeopolitics/status/1630647999096299524?s=46&t=2X9GJZmsV7d5yED3xrD58A

which leads to the ukranians being mad about it

https://twitter.com/azgeopolitics/status/1630648659762094101?s=46&t=2X9GJZmsV7d5yED3xrD58A

oinking hogs.

CongoJack
Nov 5, 2009

Ask Why, Asshole

Tankbuster posted:

oinking hogs.

very funny for Ukraine to go “ummm, that was illegal” about a reporter doing reporting.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
the combination of "reserve troops" and "only 2000 of them" is a lie too far imho

2000 elite troops you could spin

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
No way its 2k troops in Bakhmut. Someone stationed there admitted the average life expectancy for a new recruit is around 4 hours.


https://twitter.com/DoctorGerhard/status/1629008339735552000

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!

Regarde Aduck posted:

the combination of "reserve troops" and "only 2000 of them" is a lie too far imho

2000 elite troops you could spin

got some documentary footage of the siege of bakhmut right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VywKJSglL24

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
can u eat beans on submarines

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Death By The Blues posted:

No way its 2k troops in Bakhmut. Someone stationed there admitted the average life expectancy for a new recruit is around 4 hours.


https://twitter.com/DoctorGerhard/status/1629008339735552000

lower life expectancy than the Imperial Guard fighting orks

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

captainbananas posted:

NOTE: I am not a bubblehead.


Rickover ran the nuclear side of the Navy for over thirty years. He didn't really give a gently caress about pretense, rank included. He DID give a huge poo poo about risk management and leadership characteristics, to the point where he personally interviewed every single officer seeking a position on any ship with a reactor (this includes carriers). Had to be tens of thousands of interviews over the decades. They were, by the accounts I have heard, non-traditional affairs.


Best one I've heard was him telling the JO to do something surprising, or something that would piss him off. So the JO takes his arms and sweeps everything on his desk to the ground, impressing the admiral.

Also he apparently would walk past the POOD without showing ID, rewarding one who had the balls to tackle him and press his sidearm into his back, with an admirals letter.

MFer was a real one.

mila kunis posted:

can u eat beans on submarines

Only the ones that come in big cans.

captainbananas
Sep 11, 2002

Ahoy, Captain!

Turtle Sandbox posted:

MFer was a real one.

:pressf:

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/TheHumanFund5/status/1630646915309219841

new uralvagonzavod content for tankies

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
Well the US just said that the Iranians can make a bomb in about 12 days.

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

captainbananas posted:

NOTE: I am not a bubblehead.

But imagine that you're too far up multiple other people's asses in a nearly literal sense 24/7 for months at a time to have any flexibility left to be too far up your own rear end

also anyone being up their own rear end has a legitimate, appreciable risk of leading to everyone around you (and you) dying in all sorts of ways, most of which would be pretty lovely (some would probably be pretty quick)

then imagine that the guy who largely made the nuclear navy - and the emphasis on nuclear subs - possible did it while getting shat on to the point where he was pulled from Oak Ridge labs and put in a new "office" in a decommissioned woman's shitter. But that didn't stop him and he eventually end-arounded his superiors and got Nimitz to buy into going full nuke. That guy was Hyman Rickover.

Rickover ran the nuclear side of the Navy for over thirty years. He didn't really give a gently caress about pretense, rank included. He DID give a huge poo poo about risk management and leadership characteristics, to the point where he personally interviewed every single officer seeking a position on any ship with a reactor (this includes carriers). Had to be tens of thousands of interviews over the decades. They were, by the accounts I have heard, non-traditional affairs.

But the effect of Rickover's management and priorities made for a subset of people who prioritized responsibility, quality control and risk management, and performance over pulling rank / knocking rings. Operations and management research has used his effect on USN submarine leadership and management as a case study of how to instill prioritizing those things in organizations where there has to be zero fault tolerance or else poo poo gets real bad real quick.

Reagan (who else) eventually squeezed him out (also age might have been a factor). I have much less confidence in his successors; I don't know what went down on the Connecticut beyond the unclassified reports that came out last spring, but it's probably a sign of things to come if the subs start losing their grip on the culture that Rickover helped build up.

It was said that interviewees sat in a special chair in Rickover's office. That chair's two front legs were cut too short, putting the candidate physically off-balance. It is 100% true.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

speng31b posted:

To be fair, when your only winning strategy is continuing to be armed and supplied by your western backers, a politician decision can also be a strategic one

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Death By The Blues posted:

Well the US just said that the Iranians can make a bomb in about 12 days.

may we live in interesting times

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
admiral rickover is helping me improve my safety

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Death By The Blues posted:

Well the US just said that the Iranians can make a bomb in about 12 days.

good

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Death By The Blues posted:

Well the US just said that the Iranians can make a bomb in about 12 days.

i hope they make one in 12 days

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
NVM just the material. Not smart enough to make the bomb apparently

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1630674065311641600

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

angerbeet posted:

The only spy technology you need to get in the barracks is Grindr

There was a famous now-banned facebook page (dating myself here) which featured photos of the shack rats at Timmie Ho’s in the morning, and yeah it’s comically easy to get on post for busted people of all genders.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Homeless Friend posted:

i hope they make one in 12 days

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


mlmp is an asset to this thread because his pedantic adherence to absolute fact, rarely seen this far outside of a model railway forum, does not discriminate

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

Death By The Blues posted:

NVM just the material. Not smart enough to make the bomb apparently

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1630674065311641600

hmm better not take a chance though, I think we should bomb them

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Regarde Aduck posted:

i don't think 2000 badly trained troops are defending under intense artillery fire and 'human waves' of Wagner troops and not breaking

My expert experience from call of battle duty field tells me all you need is 4 plucky rookies and comedy relief to turn a battle.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Cuttlefush posted:

admiral rickover is helping me improve my safety

lmao

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/BadSocialisms/status/1630204807431749638

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely
To be clear what I've seen is claims that as few as 2,000 soldiers remain in Bakhmut as of now, which may partially explain why things seem to be collapsing quicker now.. not that there were only 2,000 soldiers on average in Bakhmut during the course of the battle. The idea would be that Ukraine is withdrawing from the city.

**I think the Russian military released an estimate the other day that indicates they expect to capture up to 20,000 prisoners in Bakhmut when the ring is closed so I guess that would give a range for the number of Ukrainians still there.. 2,000 to 20,000.

Alpha 1
Feb 17, 2012
NATO-Brain Ian Bremmer admits China's peace plan represents the views of most of the world.

https://twitter.com/ProfessorBoz/status/1630437290701996032

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

lol does the US not have their hands full?

What the gently caress is going on in their foreign policy establishment? Are there factions each pushing for Russia, China and Iran or something?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Oh their mask came off. Well I'm sure it was just the one isolated incident.

(Proceeds to wade through an ocean of discarded masks chest deep)

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Lotta people mad about defensive nuclear weapons that have caused less harm than "defensive" military alliances

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Biden should be picking one strategic direction to deal with. It makes no sense to have priorities this incoherent.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Frosted Flake posted:

lol does the US not have their hands full?

What the gently caress is going on in their foreign policy establishment? Are there factions each pushing for Russia, China and Iran or something?

It's decline of empire and they're desperate to retain primacy because they're losing the long game.

If the USA waits another generation or two they'll have no repeat opportunity.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Alpha 1 posted:

NATO-Brain Ian Bremmer admits China's peace plan represents the views of most of the world.

https://twitter.com/ProfessorBoz/status/1630437290701996032

Was there confirmation about that map that was posted and exactly what the PRC (supposedly) meant by it?

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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
Iran being able to build a bomb in 10 days is another Trump success story!

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