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oldpainless posted:All 90s sketch comedy is, and I don’t use this term lightly or in jest, a big yikes. I barely remember a single objectionable thing about The Fast Show, which ran from 94-97, but Little Britain ran from 03-06 and is totally unwatchable.
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oldpainless posted:When he had the opportunity to write, produce, direct, edit and had control over a tv show he distinctly only worked with white peoples
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Mar 1, 2023 22:02
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Michael Ian Black’s biggest sin is being friends with Meghan McCain.
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Edge & Christian posted:Which show? The only ones I can think of would be equally damning of Michael Showalter and/or David Wain as well (or you know, everyone on the State), unless there was a story about Black continually shooting down their less white suggestions. Only thing in the last decade would be You're Whole, some short run adult swim thing.
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Stella had Rashida Jones in it EDIT: nevermind. She was only in the pilot.
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Torquemada posted:Little Britain ran from 03-06 and is totally unwatchable. It always was. 
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Tiggum posted:It always was. I remember a friend sitting a bunch of us down to watch that for the first time, some years after it had been out. It was very uncomfortable, and once he picked up on the vibe, he quickly moved on to something else and never mentioned it again.
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Tiggum posted:It always was. It getting voted best show in the UK at the same time Peep Show was airing is proof that there's something wrong with the British. I honest to god expected to look up and find out LB had a BAFTA.
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Speaking of Little Britain, can anyone explain what the hell the thinking behind Pompidou? I watched it for ten minutes and thought I was having a stroke. Holy poo poo, trying to look up the title of this show brought me to gem of an understatement: Wikipedia posted:Inspired by Charlie Chaplin, Morph, Laurel and Hardy, Pingu, Buster Keaton, Jacques Tati, and Marty Feldman, Pompidou aimed to reinvent visual comedy for the twenty-first century, and create an international series for a global audience. It did not succeed in this task. EDIT: Writing this did remind me of a way better reference in modern media to silent comedy: the opening shot of John Wick 2, when the camera pans from a screen showing the motorcycle chase from Sherlock Jr. to some unlucky rider getting killed by Wick. Me and a friend have a fun game of spotting Buster Keaton references in films, and it's always the choreographers and stunt professionals that pull through. A Worrying Warlock has a new favorite as of 12:24 on Mar 2, 2023 |
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Torquemada posted:I barely remember a single objectionable thing about The Fast Show, which ran from 94-97, but Little Britain ran from 03-06 and is totally unwatchable. Having never seen it, what is it about Little Britain that's unwatchable? I'm only familiar with a few British shows, so I can't say I've seen anything uniquely bad, besides maybe BBC Sherlock.
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Iirc literally every character and joke is firmly in the "punching down" style of humor first of all.
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geeko55 posted:Having never seen it, what is it about Little Britain that's unwatchable? I'm only familiar with a few British shows, so I can't say I've seen anything uniquely bad, besides maybe BBC Sherlock. Homophobia and mocking the disabled is only the tip of the iceberg.
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Mar 2, 2023 15:37
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Was the Fast Show the first to repeat endless variations of the same thing to force catchphrases and memes out of it?
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bitterandtwisted posted:Was the Fast Show the first to repeat endless variations of the same thing to force catchphrases and memes out of it? Hmm, you could probably find a tablet from Sumeria that did this. Anyway, my original point and rebuttal appears to stand: The Fast Show is a 90's sketch show that aged remarkably well.
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Mr. Show seems fine from what little I’ve seen.
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bitterandtwisted posted:Was the Fast Show the first to repeat endless variations of the same thing to force catchphrases and memes out of it? For repetition is a mighty power in the domain of humor. If frequently used, nearly any precisely worded and unchanging formula will eventually compel laughter if it be gravely and earnestly repeated, at intervals, five or six times. — Mark Twain, Autobiography, (ch. 28?)
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geeko55 posted:Having never seen it, what is it about Little Britain that's unwatchable? I'm only familiar with a few British shows, so I can't say I've seen anything uniquely bad, besides maybe BBC Sherlock. It was extremely low-brow humour even at the time, with every sketch being a vehicle for recurring catchphrases and a ton of gross-out shock humour. Add on that a lot of the jokes are just "this character is racist" and "the disabled person is making it up for attention" and "gay people just being overdramatic" and the whole thing winds up being some very uninventive humour layered over just wanting to laugh at minorities. One of its creators is now a successful children's author.
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Torquemada posted:Hmm, you could probably find a tablet from Sumeria that did this. Anyway, my original point and rebuttal appears to stand: The Fast Show is a 90's sketch show that aged remarkably well. Some Sumerian c. 1900BC posted:Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband's lap. Some Sumerian c. 1900BC posted:Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband's lap. Some Sumerian c. 1900BC posted:Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband's lap. Some Sumerian c. 1900BC posted:Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband's lap. checks out.
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bitterandtwisted posted:Was the Fast Show the first to repeat endless variations of the same thing to force catchphrases and memes out of it? I first recognised that from Harry Enfield in the 80s, who had a bevy of classist (and ethnic) stereotypes who'd yell catchphrase snippets repeatedly. It all felt somewhat subversive and anti-establishment at the time but yeeesh.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Mr. Show seems fine from what little I’ve seen. Not counting Jay Johnston or Dino, I can only think of semi frequent gay panic jokes.
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Unlike Little Britain, the Fast Show could make a sketch about a disabled guy hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JD353rNvT4
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Asked and answered, thanks for confirming it's not something to consider seeking out in the slightest. I feel like the 2000's is a minefield for TV being mean spirited, racist, or fat phobic and it definitely seems like that might be true with any country's given TV shows around that time, not that any given decade is completely better or worse.
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thepopmonster posted:checks out. Few people outside the archeological community know that Ea-nasir was also an aspiring comedian.
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geeko55 posted:Asked and answered, thanks for confirming it's not something to consider seeking out in the slightest. I feel like the 2000's is a minefield for TV being mean spirited, racist, or fat phobic and it definitely seems like that might be true with any country's given TV shows around that time, not that any given decade is completely better or worse. There was a strong culture of punching down in the early 00s in the UK that led to the Tory's taking over and gutting the social safety net because the messaging was it was all cheats, chavs, the 'wrong' kind of white immigrants, and lower class scum living easy off the backs of hardworking British nationals. I don't think Little Britain was the main source of it but it was wildly popular and highly visible for nearly a decade and clearly informed a lot of people's opinions on the subject of welfare, disability, and race/gender issues. As a side note, it's not like the punching down culture is gone, it's just all the comedians who would've done it are now embarrassed to do it and pretend like it was just some crazy era that everyone has now moved on from.
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I've always gotten a nasty, spiteful, bullying vibe off David Walliams. Nothing concrete, just a feeling.
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Torquemada posted:I barely remember a single objectionable thing about The Fast Show, which ran from 94-97, but Little Britain ran from 03-06 and is totally unwatchable.
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Pookah posted:I've always gotten a nasty, spiteful, bullying vibe off David Walliams. Nothing concrete, just a feeling. There's some very grim rumours going around about him these days in the UK comedy circuit from what I've heard.
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I'm wary of judging people based on just a vibe or how they look. But Walliams always has this expression like - you know how Ricky Gervais always looks slightly desperate, like he's checking with those around him to see if they think he's funny, anxious to please? Walliams looks like he's searching for a victim. Sits back narrow-eyed and just *eyes* people. There's no joy in other comedians.
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Pookah posted:I've always gotten a nasty, spiteful, bullying vibe off David Walliams. Nothing concrete, just a feeling. Check out any of the "Big Fat Quiz of the..." that he's on and you'll find you're right. He's a vicious toff.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Not counting Jay Johnston or Dino, I can only think of semi frequent gay panic jokes. It represented an angry gay married couple better than anything since!
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thebardyspoon posted:There's some very grim rumours going around about him these days in the UK comedy circuit from what I've heard. Go on...
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Gargamel Gibson posted:Go on... Oh some footage of him wrestling with young men on stage years ago as part of some "silly game" called "hide the sausage" on a stage show he was on years back resurfaced, it basically seems like peer pressured sexual harassment of audience members to me. When people were commenting on it as being quite weird there were some replies from people in the UK comedy scene to the effect of "yeah this doesn't surprise me" and some people alleging that he'd ask young people to come to his dressing room on the talent show he was on as the judge of, it felt like one of those whisper network things where people have basically quietly been warning people about him for awhile and then in ten-twenty years a bunch of allegations will come out when nobodies jobs rely on him anymore. To me at least. Basically feels like there's a couple more Jimmy Savilles in the offing in the UK. Not confirmed obviously so don't want to be like "he definitely is a sex criminal" obviously, just what I've seen. Either way, Little Britain hasn't aged badly, it was loving awful when it was on.
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Enemabag Jones posted:I wanna say I don't remember anything bad about The State except for Michael Ian Black. I've been rewatching it and so far there hasn't been anything egregious. Even the Jew, the Italian and the Red-Head Gay is more about how dumb stereotypes are than anything else.
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I watched the whole run of the State when it came out on DVD like 10 or 12 years ago. There are some bits I remember aging poorly by virtue of the skits mocking stuff that was on MTV at the time. This bit doesn't making any sense if you don't know that it is poking fun at MTV's ironically slur-filled anti racism spot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7f772LTyEo Also, at the time MTV had a deal with record companies that they could include there songs in their shows. This deal did not extend to home releases, so there are sketches where the songs had to be replaced by something generic, which sometimes hurt the DVD*. I remember one bit where Slash was trying to kill a mouse, but the song wasn't from Guns N' Roses. Porcupine Racetrack still loving slaps though. https://vimeo.com/410325198 *Daria suffered the same fate too. deoju has a new favorite as of 00:08 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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Monkey Torture was endlessly quoted among my friends and I in high school. A work crush of mine recommended Little Britain when it was on and lmao that took care of that.
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I am surprised that no one has said 'there is literally blackface and/or yellowface in most episodes' in addition to all the other ways Little Britain is terrible.
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Weldon Pemberton posted:I am surprised that no one has said 'there is literally blackface and/or yellowface in most episodes' in addition to all the other ways Little Britain is terrible. Oh gently caress that triggered the memory. "Ting Tong from Pong Pong" or some awful poo poo. Don't
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Weldon Pemberton posted:I am surprised that no one has said 'there is literally blackface and/or yellowface in most episodes' in addition to all the other ways Little Britain is terrible. the blackface is literally the only thing they apologize for, and only because it was what was referenced when streaming services pulled the show
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It's at this moment I've just realized I've only seen the little Britain USA version which was a lot toned down apparently
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What about shows like Monkey Dust? I only know about that one because of the Pedofinder General clips making their rounds when #metoo was starting to kick off. I presume it (as a sketch series) had its own share of  content
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