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Mind_Taker posted:Just catching up on last night’s trades and Jesus Christ what are the Penguins and Canucks doing Instead of improving his team for this season Ron Hextall is downgrading and filling a 'need' for next year and then hoping his coach just figures out how to make the bottom 6 not get caved in/score. It should be noted the bottom 6 has been a disaster all year and the playoffs multiple years running.
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https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1631296407528153089?s=20 Yo, gently caress this.
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Mar 2, 2023 15:19
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https://twitter.com/Steve_Dangle/status/1631297452232912897?t=FCYR8zt-Cc_CmSuGnHMubg&s=19
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Mar 2, 2023 15:24
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There are still a couple teams in the wildcard which haven’t done much yet which could or should do something like Buffalo or Seattle. More chaos trades please!
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Mar 2, 2023 15:24
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https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1631301232026349568 meh return, but fair given the circumstances -- very happy to get a late 1st from a UFA that the Wings weren't going to be able to re-sign that's had a mess of a season.
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Mar 2, 2023 15:38
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It's not like I wanted Bertuzzi but for christ's sake Hextall, Boston's core is basically as old as the penguins' and you can't be bothered to do better than Granlund? You fucker
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Mar 2, 2023 15:43
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:It's not like I wanted Bertuzzi but for christ's sake Hextall, Boston's core is basically as old as the penguins' and you can't be bothered to do better than Granlund? You're going to get a Max Domi AND YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IT GOD DAMMIT!
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Mar 2, 2023 15:49
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Still hate the Granlund trade. I even would have taken JT Miller and his stupid face and stupid contract over that deal
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Mar 2, 2023 15:54
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A day later I am still baffled by the Blueger trade. I do not understand what hole he is supposed to fill, and a third is not nothing particularly when Pittsburgh were cap dumping
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Mar 2, 2023 15:59
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Blueger is a competent and versatile bottom six forward. Doesn't do much creating or finishing but he can drive play and has a clue in his own end. Good depth pickup for a playoff team. The Penguins were making him look worse than he is because he's been playing on lines where none of the three players can create and or finish and often also with the indescribably play-dragging corpse of Brian Dumoulin, and also were taking a lot of D starts.
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Mar 2, 2023 16:01
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I really don't like Bertuzzi that much as a guy, with all the ant-vax poo poo, and I don't know where he fits in when everyone is healthy, but he's a decent player. He's older than I thought too, for some reason I thought he was like 25 but he's 28. He's on a cheap deal (less than 2.5M somehow) and only signed for another year, so I guess it's a decent playoff rental. They really want to win the cup this year. E: Detroit fans seem to really like him from what I've been reading online. So maybe I will come around on him.
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Mar 2, 2023 16:02
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tarbrush posted:A day later I am still baffled by the Blueger trade. I do not understand what hole he is supposed to fill, and a third is not nothing particularly when Pittsburgh were cap dumping like Eric said, and also he was a huge part of the Penguins PK so if the Knights are trying to give Karlsson easier assignments they should be able to free him up to focus on the offensive duties
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Mar 2, 2023 16:04
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I do wonder where Bertuzzi slots in immediately, I thought Debrusk was doing pretty well in the top 6 and at some point I imagine Taylor Hall comes back.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I really don't like Bertuzzi that much as a guy, with all the ant-vax poo poo, and I don't know where he fits in when everyone is healthy, but he's a decent player. He's older than I thought too, for some reason I thought he was like 25 but he's 28. He's on a cheap deal (less than 2.5M somehow) and only signed for another year, so I guess it's a decent playoff rental. They really want to win the cup this year. Detroit’s retaining 50%, his full cap hit is $4.75M, and he’s a UFA at the end of this season I was reading that performance bonuses could lead Boston to have a pretty sizeable cap penalty next year so yeah, they’re really committed to winning this season cause it’s gonna be tough later
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Mar 2, 2023 16:06
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Koopa Kid posted:I do wonder where Bertuzzi slots in immediately, I thought Debrusk was doing pretty well in the top 6 and at some point I imagine Taylor Hall comes back. Their forward lines generally look like this when everyone is healthy: Marchand-Bergeron-Debrusk Zacha-Krejci-Pastrnak Hall-Coyle-Frederic Foligno-Nosek-Hathaway The first line is pretty much set. Occasionally they put Pasta up there when they really need to pour it on, but Bergeron and Marchand + Debrusk has been really solid. Second line is mostly set. Krejci and Pastrnak are a set pair, Zacha is their most common third wheel but occasionally Hall gets reps. I could see Bertuzzi getting a shot here but I don't think it's a long term fit unless they have insane chemistry. With Hall and Foligno out, I think Bertuzzi will probably start on Coyle's line. When Hall/Foligno are healthy, I think Frederic gets bumped down and they probably run Hall, Coyle, and Bertuzzi on the same line, with one of them playing their off wing. Hall-Coyle-Bertuzzi would be pretty ridiculous as a third line. You have a good two-way center, a former 30 goal scorer, and a former league MVP playing on your third line.
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Mar 2, 2023 16:12
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In the meantime, Bertuzzi and Frederic on the same line will probably be one of the biggest pair of shitheads in the league, and if they click that's the sort of thing you'd one to bring back come the playoffs
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Mar 2, 2023 16:16
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https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1631311711897542662?s=20 Seems fine for Pasta. He's really god damned good
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Mar 2, 2023 16:16
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Ginette Reno posted:https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1631311711897542662?s=20 11.25 is actually significantly less than I was expecting him to get. Amazing news though. I love Pasta.
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Mar 2, 2023 16:17
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:like Eric said, and also he was a huge part of the Penguins PK so if the Knights are trying to give Karlsson easier assignments they should be able to free him up to focus on the offensive duties The Pens just blithely discarded Blueger to replace him with Granlund, meanwhile Dumoulin will continue playing 20+ a night, and I won't at all be surprised if their PK is bottom 5 in the league the rest of the way. In fact I'll be pretty surprised if it isn't.
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Mar 2, 2023 16:18
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Life is good
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:In the meantime, Bertuzzi and Frederic on the same line will probably be one of the biggest pair of shitheads in the league, and if they click that's the sort of thing you'd one to bring back come the playoffs They can put Hathaway too!
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1631301232026349568 I'm getting tired of all these cowards and their protected 1sts- too much having their cake and eating it. We need to spice up trading them. Maybe the first three that get moved get conditions and everyone else has to give the offered pick?
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Mar 2, 2023 16:19
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And yeah, I've defended Burxstall insofar as the Pens' window is firmly closed now and it's stupid to trade draft picks for veterans now. But like everyone else I cannot comprehend the point of acquiring Mikael Granlund at all. He does absolutely nothing the Penguins need.
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Mar 2, 2023 16:20
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Bertuzzi is an idiot but he's pretty good. Interesting that Boston made several huge deals after a lot of people said they were good enough to stand pat and still be fine. They've been carried by Ullmark to an even more incredible degree lately, so I think they're absolutely correct to make these moves and insulate themselves as best they can if he isn't Dominik Hasek in the playoffs. Or rather, if he's 1995 Dominik Hasek in the playoffs. Ginette Reno posted:https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1631311711897542662?s=20 Wonder if that helps set what Meier/Bratt will be looking for. T-Bone fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Mar 2, 2023 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:And yeah, I've defended Burxstall insofar as the Pens' window is firmly closed now and it's stupid to trade draft picks for veterans now. But like everyone else I cannot comprehend the point of acquiring Mikael Granlund at all. He does absolutely nothing the Penguins need. Just can't be arsed to give a gently caress about a mid round first right now. Hextall is gonna hang his hat on keeping that and he's gonna draft Sam Poulin or Owen Pickering 2.0
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Mar 2, 2023 16:21
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Nah, he won't. Someone else might, but Hextall will be fired this spring. My biggest fear though is that Hextall gets fired and Burke doesn't.
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Ginette Reno posted:Just can't be arsed to give a gently caress about a mid round first right now. Hextall is gonna hang his hat on keeping that and he's gonna draft Sam Poulin or Owen Pickering 2.0 Think about how steady Owen Pickering might be as a defender in 6 years though just kinda standing there, being very big, crosschecking people near the net
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Mar 2, 2023 16:22
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I'm guessing Foligno or Hall is LTIR which is why they made the Bertuzzi move
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Mar 2, 2023 16:23
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The devils aren’t getting Bratt or Meier for 8AAV.
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Tim Whatley posted:I'm guessing Foligno or Hall is LTIR which is why they made the Bertuzzi move My guess is Hall
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Think about how steady Owen Pickering might be as a defender in 6 years though Extremely ready for it
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mcmagic posted:The devils aren’t getting Bratt or Meier for 8AAV. Well neither of them have even close to the track record of production that Pastrnak has. I'm expecting around 9m when it's all said and done though.
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mcmagic posted:The devils aren’t getting Bratt or Meier for 8AAV. Eh, they might. Pastrnak is the #5 goalscorer in the league since he entered it, Meier and Bratt are not anywhere near that category for points or goals so they don't really have the argument to be in that paygrade. 9 max.
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mcmagic posted:The devils aren’t getting Bratt or Meier for 8AAV. My honest guesses are $8.5m for Bratt and $9.25m for Meier
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McGinn and Blueger are both fine defense first NHL players in the right situation. That situation unfortunately isn't a bottom six with Jeff Carter and Kasperi Kapanen.
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Mar 2, 2023 16:31
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McGinn is not as good as Blueger
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I think people know you can't really use Bruins contracts as a comparison point because they've brainwashed all their players into being communists who do what's best for the team. They still get paid, obviously, but they are absolutely giving the team a bit of a discount. Bergeron and Krejci came back for $1m. For years no one would take a salary higher than Bergeron. McAvoy signed for under $10M, etc.
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Yeah if Pastrnak decided to hit the open market and get every last dollar he could, even with the rampant collusion in the NHL, he'd get $13M/year easy
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God drat, Sweeney is going balls deep this season
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I think people know you can't really use Bruins contracts as a comparison point because they've brainwashed all their players into being communists who do what's best for the team. They still get paid, obviously, but they are absolutely giving the team a bit of a discount. Bergeron and Krejci came back for $1m. For years no one would take a salary higher than Bergeron. McAvoy signed for under $10M, etc. This is the kind of culture Fitzgerald is actively trying to build, so we will see if it works. Meier on the open market would possibly get $10m. Bratt would probably get $9m.
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