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I've got a quick question for anyone who plays nylon guitars here. I've been learning a few Sun Kil Moon songs and I've noticed he usually has his nylon acoustic tuned down really low in a lot of his songs, sometimes down to A. I've never messed with a nylon string guitar and was just wondering how they handle different tunings, specifically major down-tunings compared to steel strings. I usually have my steel string tuned down to C#, and this feels like the limit before everything turns to complete slop without switching the heavier gauge strings. I really want to get a nylon someday, but I am becoming dangerously close to room full of guitars and my apartment is way too small for that.
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a_gelatinous_cube posted:I've got a quick question for anyone who plays nylon guitars here. I've been learning a few Sun Kil Moon songs and I've noticed he usually has his nylon acoustic tuned down really low in a lot of his songs, sometimes down to A. I've never messed with a nylon string guitar and was just wondering how they handle different tunings, specifically major down-tunings compared to steel strings. I usually have my steel string tuned down to C#, and this feels like the limit before everything turns to complete slop without switching the heavier gauge strings. I really want to get a nylon someday, but I am becoming dangerously close to room full of guitars and my apartment is way too small for that. Just gotta go with higher tension strings. It's pretty doable.
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Mar 3, 2023 00:27
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landgrabber posted:there's a Modern Player Jaguar on the verb for like $550, so it's a jag body but it has two p90s and a bridge like a les paul jr. I have one or the Squier Toronados that are Gibson scale, hard tail, light with a Jaguar offset body. It’s also got somewhat hot humbuckers and has been a good emo/punk guitar. I got an open box one for $179 but they generally run around $250.
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Mar 3, 2023 01:31
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Messed around with Neural's Mark IIC+ VST the past couple of days. I have zero feel for how to effectively use the pre-EQ yet, and the post-EQ sounded way too fizzy on the classic smily face setting. The volume/gain also seem to have an effect on the EQ also. Just a weird, quirky set of knobs. Tonight I ended up just ripping off Hetfield's live Metallica settings, throwing one of the built-in OD sims into the front, and it sounded kickass. Not sure if it's 100$ for a plugin that does something my current metal plugin already does kickass, but I'd definitely check out a Mark amp IRL now. Honestly the thing I get from all the amp sims I try is I just have a set of IRs I like (I have a giant pack of Ownhammer IRs I got for like 30 bucks and I use two from a 4x12 Mesa Recto Trad - one with a 57 at an angle on the cap and one just outside the cap edge, kind of ripping off the Clayman thing) and I can probably get a good sound out of any amp sims if I load those IRs, EQ a bit, and go to town. Southern Cassowary fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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Mar 3, 2023 01:51
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Gramps posted:Just gotta go with higher tension strings. It's pretty doable. Yeah, I might have to just bite the bullet and get my dreadnought set up for heavier strings and just capo up for higher tunings. Or find a guitar rack that lets me stuff more guitars into my room.
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Mar 3, 2023 04:08
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Southern Cassowary posted:Messed around with Neural's Mark IIC+ VST the past couple of days. I have zero feel for how to effectively use the pre-EQ yet, and the post-EQ sounded way too fizzy on the classic smily face setting. The volume/gain also seem to have an effect on the EQ also. Just a weird, quirky set of knobs. You really wanna blow your hair back on the cheap, get a pod XT off reverb for like 100 bux, bypass the speaker sims and run it through some good IRs. Kinda shocking how great they still sound
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Mar 3, 2023 05:56
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Is the thread all in on the LTD EC-1000 deluxe? There is one on our local auction site for like 50% of what they go for new in good condition and with EMGs.
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Mar 3, 2023 07:31
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Gramps posted:You really wanna blow your hair back on the cheap, get a pod XT off reverb for like 100 bux, bypass the speaker sims and run it through some good IRs. Kinda shocking how great they still sound i have been mildly tempted to run some free amp plugins like lepou through my irs Red_Fred posted:Is the thread all in on the LTD EC-1000 deluxe? There is one on our local auction site for like 50% of what they go for new in good condition and with EMGs. The 1000 series are made in Korea at WMI and are really great axes. My only hangup would be that I personally dislike EMGs but that's an easily fixable issue and a whole bunch of people sound great with them. You can't find one for cheaper than 700 USD shipped on Reverb right now and if you're meaningfully cheaper than that I'd have zero qualms jumping on it. Southern Cassowary fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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Mar 3, 2023 12:20
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Southern Cassowary posted:i have been mildly tempted to run some free amp plugins like lepou through my irs DOOO ITTTT Plugins that sound merely good will sound awesome through a good IR
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Mar 3, 2023 13:50
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Red_Fred posted:Is the thread all in on the LTD EC-1000 deluxe? There is one on our local auction site for like 50% of what they go for new in good condition and with EMGs. I got an evertune loaded model a couple years ago. The neck isn't my personal favorite and Evertune bridges just aren't for me (I do a lot of vibrato and it just feels bad but it's great for tracking tight chuggy stuff), but it's a really well made guitar. If you can find one cheap they're 100 percent worth a spin.
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Mar 3, 2023 13:52
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Gramps posted:DOOO ITTTT Yeah this has been my experience also - whatever you're using for cabinet sound matters more for sound than the actual plugin. I am happy I got a Neural plugin because the transposing feature rules for lazy downtuning while jamming along with songs but if you had a big collection of guitars in alternate tunings or mostly played in one tuning you're better off getting a good set of IRs and finding something cheap to run through them IMO.
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Mar 3, 2023 14:59
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Southern Cassowary posted:Messed around with Neural's Mark IIC+ VST the past couple of days. I have zero feel for how to effectively use the pre-EQ yet, and the post-EQ sounded way too fizzy on the classic smily face setting. The volume/gain also seem to have an effect on the EQ also. Just a weird, quirky set of knobs. Mesa Mark series amps are incredible imo. I have a Mesa Studio rack preamp which is essentially the Mark IIc and it sounds super good. I never really liked the Dual/Triple Recs but Mark series are  . They are really unintuitive to dial in though, since everything in the eq stack interacts with everything else.Gramps posted:You really wanna blow your hair back on the cheap, get a pod XT off reverb for like 100 bux, bypass the speaker sims and run it through some good IRs. Kinda shocking how great they still sound Most of the hate the Pods got back in the day was due to cab sims sucking rear end. Amp modeling has been good since the 90's. I have a 90's era boss multi effect preamp rack unit with a bunch of amp models in it and as long as you switch off the cab sims and run it through an actual cab it sounds killer. Direct in with the cab sims sounds like complete dogshit though. Southern Cassowary posted:You can't find one for cheaper than 700 USD shipped on Reverb right now and if you're meaningfully cheaper than that I'd have zero qualms jumping on it. I put my EC-1000 up on Craigslist for $550 for a couple months with no takers. A couple of bullshit trade offers but otherwise nothing. Who's getting 700+ for these?
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Gramps posted:I got an evertune loaded model a couple years ago. The neck isn't my personal favorite and Evertune bridges just aren't for me (I do a lot of vibrato and it just feels bad but it's great for tracking tight chuggy stuff), but it's a really well made guitar. If you can find one cheap they're 100 percent worth a spin. I've never played an Evertune but my understanding is that you can set them up to still allow bends and vibrato? Or is it that even set up that way it reacts poorly?
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Mar 3, 2023 16:41
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Mesa Mark series amps are incredible imo. I have a Mesa Studio rack preamp which is essentially the Mark IIc and it sounds super good. I never really liked the Dual/Triple Recs but Mark series are Yeah Mesa EQs are beyond me but the high end on the Marks is sick. I've heard awesome Dual Rec tones but never been able to figure out how to get one myself whereas the Mark sim I got to a workable point somewhat quickly. Honestly I'd expect an EC-1000 to go in the 400-500 range realistically and idk how all these people are listing them for 700 on Reverb. I almost made a note about that because if you're diligent you can get Fugijen Ibanezes for less than 700 and I'd take one of those over the EC any day of the week.
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800peepee51doodoo posted:I've never played an Evertune but my understanding is that you can set them up to still allow bends and vibrato? Or is it that even set up that way it reacts poorly? You definitely can, but it still feels icky, almost like there's a little bit of lag. It's also less stable tuning/intonation wise when you do which kinda defeats the purpose.
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   Whoo, it's done. Kinda.. I got all the pieces on, now I need to do the neck and intonation and all that fiddly bullshit but all the pieces are together at least. And I guess I'll find out if it plays any good once the neck gets settled. My hope is that it plays punk as all hell because it looks pretty fuckin' punk and is all so weird, like the neck is a fake fender but it's gibson scale anywho if it sucks I guess I'll just get a warmoth body and try again also my hands are destroyed just from the chiseling and the sanding and filing mad respect to the real craftspeople out there who do this every day Good Soldier Svejk fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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Mar 3, 2023 21:48
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:also my hands are destroyed just from the chiseling and the sanding and filing There's a reason the dude from Texas Toast Guitars always talks about his "beloved pin router".
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Mar 3, 2023 22:27
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Hmm, I'm feeling pretty torn on the EC now. I bought a MIJ Ibanez RG655M a few months back so that base is well covered now. Might throw a lowball offer and see what happens, I'm not in the US so comparing prices is difficult against Reverb.
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Red_Fred posted:Hmm, I'm feeling pretty torn on the EC now. I bought a MIJ Ibanez RG655M a few months back so that base is well covered now. always nice to have a hardtail rocker to go with a locking trem guitar edit: neural mark iic+ fuckery has found me the place i like - i do not like the smiley face settings on the treble bands of the graphic eq and i lower them to keep some snarl but take out fizz, run a fake tubescreamer into it, then tweaked the gain/pre-eq to taste. sounds huge, honestly think i'd consider a mark if i was in an irl metal band now. Southern Cassowary fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Mar 4, 2023 |
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Semi off topic here but: I've decided Indian Laurel fretboards look like poo poo. They look like the crappy low quality rosewood boards that I've always avoided. They are everywhere now. That lovely super light brownish pink color just makes everything look bad. It's crazy to me to see them showing up 1000+ dollar guitars now. I just saw the new 1299 Epiphone "Korina" expolrers are gonna have laurel boards. It's so dumb. Rosewood boards need to be super dark to look cool imo. Seeing lots of lovely looking ebony boards now too, with streaks in it that look terrible. I don't get it? Rosewood I guess I get. It's endagered or whatever. Ebony isnt though right? I say just bring back richlite boards. They rule. edit: I'm an old man bitching about fretboard woods. lol
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Malaria posted:Semi off topic here but: I've decided Indian Laurel fretboards look like poo poo. They look like the crappy low quality rosewood boards that I've always avoided. They are everywhere now. That lovely super light brownish pink color just makes everything look bad. It's crazy to me to see them showing up 1000+ dollar guitars now. I just saw the new 1299 Epiphone "Korina" expolrers are gonna have laurel boards. It's so dumb. I get it. I’ve passed on a ton of guitars because they didn’t have just straight maple fretboards. All the non maple boards I have feel like compromises. A light maple board with black inlays just looks so good.
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Get a bottle of this stuff if it bothers you. https://www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/supplies/finishing-supplies/colors-and-tints-and-stains/black-fingerboard-stain/ Ebony is endangered too https://www.wood-database.com/ebony-dark-outlook-dark-woods/ Taylor guitars is trying to help out and plant a bunch of ebony trees to make it more sustainable but they take forever to grow. I have a couple of basses with richlite fretboards one fretless and the other is on my aluminum neck kramer. It's a really great material for that.
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Yeah I'm a convert to maple boards. They look tight as dickskin and they got all the attack.
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Am I missing something when people say that different fretboards play faster than others, or similar claims? I don't really understand how that affects things like that. I think some of that stuff is lost on me cause I a) don't play that well and b) am used to switching between so many cheap guitars I gloss over a lot of differences that aren't action/scale length related
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Wowporn posted:Am I missing something when people say that different fretboards play faster than others, or similar claims? I don't really understand how that affects things like that. I think some of that stuff is lost on me cause I a) don't play that well and b) am used to switching between so many cheap guitars I gloss over a lot of differences that aren't action/scale length related The only thing I’ve ever noticed that makes a difference is finish on the back of the neck being sticky and causing issues. I think it’s mostly placebo effect otherwise. I prefer the feel of maple because it doesn’t seem to feel as soft to me, but that could be placebo effect or something. Also neck profile I think probably does matter for a lot of players although I’ve never had a neck shape that seemed to effect my playing much, or I’ve just by coincidence only played guitars with the same neck shape.
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Malaria posted:Semi off topic here but: I've decided Indian Laurel fretboards look like poo poo. They look like the crappy low quality rosewood boards that I've always avoided. They are everywhere now. That lovely super light brownish pink color just makes everything look bad. It's crazy to me to see them showing up 1000+ dollar guitars now. I just saw the new 1299 Epiphone "Korina" expolrers are gonna have laurel boards. It's so dumb. Streaky ebony is actually how the majority of ebony wood looks and the super dark stuff is either high end or stained. Up until quite recently, if a tree had streaky ebony once it was cut down then it was just left to rot. Taylor are purposely using the streaky stuff now as part of their drive for sustainability so if you order ebony you get what you get - high end guitars will be darker but the majority will have streaked.
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I did it, gang. I finally found a 12AX7 in stock at a brick and mortar store. Now to figure out how to swap a tube in this Mark V lmao
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TheMightyBoops posted:The only thing I’ve ever noticed that makes a difference is finish on the back of the neck being sticky and causing issues. I think it’s mostly placebo effect otherwise. I prefer the feel of maple because it doesn’t seem to feel as soft to me, but that could be placebo effect or something. Also neck profile I think probably does matter for a lot of players although I’ve never had a neck shape that seemed to effect my playing much, or I’ve just by coincidence only played guitars with the same neck shape. maple fretboards feel a little more slick while there's a little more roughness to rosewood or ebony but like, it's not a huge deal to me. neck profile matters a lot more and I notice differences down to a millimeter or two, but I can play whatever for the most part. I am not a huge fan of very thick vintage style necks but anything from modern Fender/Gibson SlimTaper to ibanez wizard is fine. Southern Cassowary fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Mar 4, 2023 |
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recently ive definitely been preferring the gloss on the front of the maple board fender necks to my rosewood board fender necks. whereas like 3 years ago i would have said maple is too sticky. I think the quality of the gloss matters. that's one difference i notice between mia and mims on fenders. not that mims are sticky, they aren't. more like it weirdly feels more like smartphone glass than the mias, maybe due to a different kind or thinner urethene. And mia maple board fenders depending on the year and vintage reissue aspects also have wildly different glosses and quality on the boards across the years. But i used rosewood only for many years and and was fine with it, so it gets entirely psychological imo. if you're in the realm of owning only one electric guitar, try rosewood and maple at the store and then be happy with your decision because it's pretty much arbitrary. my sg standard is rosewood board but nitro gloss back of the neck, and that gets very unsmooth and needs to be vigorously rubbed with cloth to become smooth again. enough that im wearing down the finish after 14 years with it. but all my other gutiars all have satin back necks, which i quite like. when it comes to back of necks i think everybody should have their primary guitar be satin back i also like ebony a lot, it's smoother and less grainy than rosewood. edit: the funny thing about those 50s reissue glosses is that im pretty sure the most expensive guitars in the world that were actually built in the 50s are worth more if the player wore down the gloss... because they think it's smoother? looks cooler? some people say it's evidence the guitar was played and therefore was a good one. I'm not sure. There's definitely a marketing reason why custom shop relics all have preworn maple boards which are predominantly their best selling models as oppose to new old stock pristine models. it's pretty dumb ethanol fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Mar 4, 2023 |
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I actually experimented with that super glossy orange SX neck after I got the replacement to see if I could do anything with it to get it to where I like it. A few passes of 220 grit took that high gloss down to a satin that I like 100 times more. If I hadn't already bought the replacement neck (and if the original wasn't slightly warped) I might have just kept it on after the success. The new one has pau ferro which is the first guitar I've had with that type of board. It seems fine so far. It's supposed to have a tighter grain pattern than rosewood so hopefully it feels closer to maple. I wish it just had been roasted maple but eh, beggars can't be choosers - it's a weird scale and has a soft V at a way cheaper price than having one of those made would be
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i don't notice the feel or the sound of different fretboard woods but i know that it's easier to get refretting done on not-maple necks. the way pau ferro is kind of a lovely looking rosewood, i think ebony is kind of a better looking rosewood. and also it reminds me of Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way. i think i prefer the look of darker neck woods though, in most combinations.
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the whole fender switch to rosewood in the 60s is quite humorous too. guitars in the 50s had maple boards because they were cheaper and easier to source wood. then by the 60s the maple boards were noticeably wearing down faster than rosewood, so fender switched to rosewood because it was more durable and everybody else was doing it. But i've heard the driving factor in the decision was quality control issues with the worn or cracking maple boards. but then by the end of the 60s players just wanted to find the worn 50s models instead. and now people buy roadworn stratocasters that come from the factory like that.
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I am legitimately so scatterbrained i was thinking "huh, it's been a bit since i had a guitar with a maple board" while totally forgetting my ESP, which I play the most, has a maple board. I've had it for long enough I barely think about it when I play it at this point. The white inlays on the maple board are easily the dumbest thing about this otherwise basically perfect guitar and I wish it had an ebony board for purely aesthetic reasons instead.
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ethanol posted:the whole fender switch to rosewood in the 60s is quite humorous too. guitars in the 50s had maple boards because they were cheaper and easier to source wood. then by the 60s the maple boards were noticeably wearing down faster than rosewood, so fender switched to rosewood because it was more durable and everybody else was doing it. But i've heard the driving factor in the decision was quality control issues with the worn or cracking maple boards.
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I generally prefer maple over rosewood, and I also agree that laurel tends just to look like cheap rosewood (My squier jag has a laurel fingerboard). That said I don't like dark ebony and ritchlite is the worst of the lot. If I could choose anything it would probably be roasted and/or flamed maple. Life is a land of contrasts.
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Butterscotch maple over white maple. Them's the breaks.
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I had some help getting the intonation set up: but verdict is... it will shred. It's not the prettiest instrument ever built but the neck is super loving nice, it mostly intonates (I need to cut a few of the springs next time I change strings to get a little more distance) and the emg sounds like an emg sounds and my starter guitar gets to live on as something I may actually be tempted to record with again now, which warms my sentimental heart. e: and I guess I learned you can pop a nice neck on a $50 body and it'll play just fine these are all good lessons to file away Good Soldier Svejk fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Mar 4, 2023 |
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I had some help getting the intonation set up: While we’re on discount guitar bits, Warmouth is out of my budget so my AliExpress pick guard arrived and the holes kind of didn’t line up but you can only tell it’s off if you closely look at the cutout for the bridge. Also I restored the Squire logo I sanded off in HS with a sharpie: 
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Ah you know, that's another good lesson to take away everything can be made to fit if you want it to I feel like sometimes I like tinkering more than playing the playing is fun too but I like customizing and tweaking stuff and wiring
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I like the Pau Ferro because it looks like chocolate milk but wood.
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