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Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!


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King Carnivore
Dec 17, 2007

Graveyard Disciple
I thought that was a cat. Has this dude ever seen a coyote?

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!

I checked back to make sure that I didn't miss a strip, but no. Stantis did not depict the actual shooting of the balloon, the climax of the action, the literal point of this entire storyline. He skipped it, and then had a character inform us that it happened after the fact. This is just so perfectly on-brand; I am speechless.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah it's a big contradiction, for 40 years they've been cutting welfare and justifying this by saying we need to discourage people from having kids they can't afford, it worked and now they're screaming about low birth rates.

Well I guess it's not necessarily a contradiction since they do have a "solution" in mind: ban birth control

There is zero contradiction. “Welfare people “ shouldn’t have kids but people with the phenotype drawn by Fishman need to have more kids.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Stultus Maximus posted:

There is zero contradiction. “Welfare people “ shouldn’t have kids but people with the phenotype drawn by Fishman need to have more kids.

Yeah but they don't want to pay those people in the cartoon enough or make their cost of living affordable or make the world a good place to raise a kid in, right. "Welfare people" is who they demonize in public but it's not like they want the white precariously middle class professional to be prosperous either, that's money that could be going to shareholders.

That's what I mean by the contradiction.

Or not since again they want to ban birth control and just force people to have kids, which ideally can be marched right in to Nestlé factories or whatever at the age of 12

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

VitalSigns posted:


Or not since again they want to ban birth control and just force people to have kids, which ideally can be marched right in to Nestlé factories or whatever at the age of 12

That's a gross mischaracterization and deeply unfair! Ideally, they'll also be the little white soldiers for the coming race war.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Your bottom tier conservatives only want the white kind of people having kids.

Your top tier conservatives want all the kids from everyone because that's multiple levels and generations of a workforce that can't try to do better for themselves.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Aside from being bad, is Prickly City actually doing a de facto defence of China? It sounds like they're saying the spy balloon was no big deal. Which is probably correct, but not a typical conservative viewpoint.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

BonHair posted:

Aside from being bad, is Prickly City actually doing a de facto defence of China? It sounds like they're saying the spy balloon was no big deal. Which is probably correct, but not a typical conservative viewpoint.

now that the balloon got blown up its now conservative orthodoxy that it was never a big deal

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

idonotlikepeas posted:

I checked back to make sure that I didn't miss a strip, but no. Stantis did not depict the actual shooting of the balloon, the climax of the action, the literal point of this entire storyline. He skipped it, and then had a character inform us that it happened after the fact. This is just so perfectly on-brand; I am speechless.

Explaining it to us while falling through the air, in the same droning monotonous voice that it's always in.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

now that the balloon got blown up its now conservative orthodoxy that it was never a big deal

Pretty much this. It's more tribalism at work; If the opponent did it, it has to be bad, even if it's exactly what I wanted.

Biden could sign a bill into law declaring White to be the national race, Christianity the national religion, and construct a large closet to shove all of the LGBTQ+ people into, and they'd still say he was a woke socialist.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

now that the balloon got blown up its now conservative orthodoxy that it was never a big deal

Yeah lol they almost all switched from "omg weak compromise China Joe is letting Xi spy on us with impunity" to "crazy Joe Biden is shooting down every balloon he sees like a mad man" in like one day.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
It will never beat that time something happened and president Obama refused to give his opinion on it so none of the republicans knew what their own opinion was gonna be and kept dodging reporters' questions

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Microplastics posted:

It will never beat that time something happened and president Obama refused to give his opinion on it so none of the republicans knew what their own opinion was gonna be and kept dodging reporters' questions
My favorite was Bowie Bergdahl when they went from holding hero vigils for him to be brought home to hating him and calling him a terrorist like one microsecond after Obama announced the prisoner exchange to free him

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

:australia:

Pope:


Rowe:


Lethbridge:

Part of the superannuation scare campaign is that after this change the treasurer will go after more lucrative targets. There is also genuine criticism that the government should be doing this but is too afraid of the blowback.

Knight:

King Charles has offered Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Frogmore Cottage to Prince Andrew. But could it create more problems? (ABC).

Leak, Son of Leak:

Adelaide Writers' Week defends scheduling author who is critical of Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelenskyy (ABC).

Leunig:

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


VitalSigns posted:

Yeah it's a big contradiction, for 40 years they've been cutting welfare and justifying this by saying we need to discourage people from having kids they can't afford, it worked and now they're screaming about low birth rates.

Well I guess it's not necessarily a contradiction since they do have a "solution" in mind: ban birth control

Also, immigration is bad even if we need people here to do jobs. It's important to avoid giving people seeking asylum shelter at all costs.

Blind Duke
Nov 8, 2013
I think the clash between chiding youthes for having kids they cannot afford vs the youthes not having enough kids is mostly a function of assuming the chiding is advise for the youthes to follow. Our economy and society depends not just on having a certain birth rate but having an underclass of financially struggling people. Any system of morality or empathy will seek to ease the suffering of the financially struggling underclass, which would diminish the power and profits of those who profit from them existing. Folks in power can keep folks from empathizing with these parents by blaming their individual situation and keep attention away from the system as a whole. It’s not a contradiction, it’s the “advise” existing not to help the parents but to make others not care for the struggle they do to support society.

I dont know
Aug 9, 2003

That Guy here...

Blind Duke posted:

I think the clash between chiding youthes for having kids they cannot afford vs the youthes not having enough kids is mostly a function of assuming the chiding is advise for the youthes to follow. Our economy and society depends not just on having a certain birth rate but having an underclass of financially struggling people. Any system of morality or empathy will seek to ease the suffering of the financially struggling underclass, which would diminish the power and profits of those who profit from them existing. Folks in power can keep folks from empathizing with these parents by blaming their individual situation and keep attention away from the system as a whole. It’s not a contradiction, it’s the “advise” existing not to help the parents but to make others not care for the struggle they do to support society.

Similarly they don't actually want immigration to stop, they recognize that the economic value. Instead, they want to demonize immigrants and official channels of immigration. They want immigration to remain entirely in the shadows so that immigrants remain as vulnerable as possible to economic exploitation.

Skios
Oct 1, 2021

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah it's a big contradiction, for 40 years they've been cutting welfare and justifying this by saying we need to discourage people from having kids they can't afford, it worked and now they're screaming about low birth rates.

Well I guess it's not necessarily a contradiction since they do have a "solution" in mind: ban birth control

Don't worry, Texas is currently working on a bill with massive benefits for having children, which will only scale if you have more... which will also only apply if you're in a straight marriage, own property, and have never been divorced.

Kaza42
Oct 3, 2013

Blood and Souls and all that

Skios posted:

Don't worry, Texas is currently working on a bill with massive benefits for having children, which will only scale if you have more... which will also only apply if you're in a straight marriage, own property, and have never been divorced.

While it is bullshit, the benefits aren't exactly massive. 10% property tax discount for 0-3 children, 40% for 4, plus 10% for each subsequent child. The average homeowner in Texas (which automatically already skews wealthier on average due to owning the home) pays 3800 per year in property taxes. Meaning that on average it's a $380 discount. But of course, it helps more the richer you are, since it's going to scale in value with the value of your property.


I want to be perfectly clear that I am in no way defending or supporting this law. Sec. 31.038.a.2 laying out

quote:

"Qualifying married couple" means a man and a woman who are legally married to each other, neither of whom have ever been divorced.
is enormous bullshit and just naked bigotry

It also fucks over single parents who had children out of wedlock, because Sec. 31.038.1.c specifies

quote:

(C) the adopted child of one spouse of a qualifying married couple adopted after the date on which the qualifying married couple married if the child is the natural or adopted child of the other spouse and that other spouse was a widow or widower before the date on which the qualifying married couple married.

So you can qualify if your partner had kids but their partner died, but not if they were dumped by a partner (or raped, just to throw an extra heap of bullshit in there)

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Kaza42 posted:

I want to be perfectly clear that I am in no way defending or supporting this law. Sec. 31.038.a.2 laying out
I always thought that half of the point of Protestantism was that you could get a full divorce without prejudice just by wobbling your head around and rejecting your vows, you didn't even need to hire some assassins to kill your wife, and that's why half of the kings and princes of Europe went Protestant way back when.

Is Texas going full Traditionalist Catholic now, back to before the old Vatican Councils, and letting the Evangelicals in their legislature pin right of family onto a 'single original marriage'?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

That was only for kings and poo poo, because they made themselves heads of their own churches.

Ordinary people still had to get special permission. No-fault divorce laws were rare in the US until like the 70s.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
Clay Bennett




Jeff Danziger




Marty Two Bulls




Lisa Benson




Pedro X. Molina




Ann Telnaes




Lee Judge




Mike Smith




Kirk Walters




Jimmy Margulies




Ed Gamble




David M. Hitch




Randall Enos




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Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖
This is way, way more revealing of Benson's worldview than I think was ever intended.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008


So we're gonna take care of those kids and get them in school and grant them citizenship so they won't be vulnerable to exploitation, right?

Right?

skeleton warrior
Nov 12, 2016



Democrats see child migrants as human beings deserving citizenship and care, for which they will be rewarded by those children voting for them. Republicans see child migrants as cheap labor to be discarded.

A Would Be A Good Cartoon But I Honestly Can’t See How Benson Means Anything Else Even Though She Must Because She’s A Giant GOP Hack Cartoon

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
She can't possibly mean to say this out loud, but it's really hard to look at that cartoon and not think that the artist intends for the "cheap labor" setting to be the better of the two.

Skios
Oct 1, 2021
A.F. Branco



Andy Marlette



Chip Bok



John Deering

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Skios posted:

Chip Bok



I didn't get a PPP loan, so just forgive my student debt.

KennyMan666
May 27, 2010

The Saga

Skios posted:

A.F. Branco


Kellies nomination: Least concealed bigotry (LGBT)

And good job with that comma placement you hack

Kavros
May 18, 2011

sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep
least concealed bigotry is one thing, but to strain that hard for a chocolate bar pun

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Skios posted:

A.F. Branco


You can tell Branco doesn't have anything against trans women by how hatefully he draws them every single time

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

VitalSigns posted:

That was only for kings and poo poo, because they made themselves heads of their own churches.

Ordinary people still had to get special permission. No-fault divorce laws were rare in the US until like the 70s.
White Evangelicals have taken it to the extent where almost anyone (white and with enough followers) can declare themself head of their own church though, so what's their grounds for being sensitive about divorce?

KennyMan666 posted:

And good job with that comma placement you hack
That could almost have been a clever joke about how the person on the right is preferentially attracted to people with they/them pronouns, not she/her ones, but it isn't because it's all just hateful sewage.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Mar 4, 2023

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes



Kellies nomination: worst caricature

Skios
Oct 1, 2021
Jesus, if I hadn't googled 'Fae Johnstone Hershey's' I never would have known that that caricature was based on a real person. He couldn't even be bothered to accurately portray the hair colour, and you'd think he'd be all over that septum piercing, given how he usually draws those wacky millennials. In short, gently caress you Branco.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Vib Rib posted:

You can tell Branco doesn't have anything against trans women by how hatefully he draws them every single time

Trans women in political cartoons always, without fail, have stubble and hairy legs

But the men don't

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Microplastics posted:

Trans women in political cartoons always, without fail, have stubble and hairy legs

But the men don't

Conservatives are pretty consistent on that "point";
Trans women are all actually dudes in drag who just want to go into the women's restroom to gawk at your 16 year old daughter.
Trans men are victims who were manipulated and confused into thinking they wanted to be guys instead of just happening to be a girl who liked guy stuff.

That's why they focus so much of the vitriol towards women and leave the men alone for the most part.

Kavros
May 18, 2011

sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep
And the psychology of the "michelle obama is a man" thing from back when just gets weirder with the current culture war

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

the_steve posted:

That's why they focus so much of the vitriol towards women and leave the men alone for the most part.
Also most cartoonists (who aren't French) aren't allowed allowed to draw genitals, so they can't just jump to "man with vagina (vagina bad)", and the most hateful are so full of casual misogyny too that they won't do "young girl becomes big muscle man with a mustache and a cowboy hat" because big strong men are just better than women.

That's also a huge part of why the idea of a "man taking a step down by becoming a woman" disgusts them more.

The only specific ridicule trans men might get is when pregnant, because imagine a pregnant man, that's god's punishment specifically reserved for women, which must be closely supervised by the state because freedom.

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