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Lid posted:Sid naming the powerbomb is something I would've never guessed and yet seems perfect. Also now we need to ask Sid. ive honestly become obsessed with the name origin. I think liger is the 1st person to regularly use it and where the bomb comes from. I also could be way off base its hard to tell.
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Has there ever been a Super Heavyweight sized wrestler that made a return at a much much smaller size?
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Has there ever been a Super Heavyweight sized wrestler that made a return at a much much smaller size? Depends how broadly we're defining this. Walter self reports as having lost about 65 pounds between his heaviest days on the indies and his current weight.
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Mar 3, 2023 12:17
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Similarly Big Show had that time where he was positively huge, quit WWE for awhile to get boxing training, came back and looked like he'd dropped about a hundred pounds
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Lamuella posted:Depends how broadly we're defining this. Walter self reports as having lost about 65 pounds between his heaviest days on the indies and his current weight. My original idea was like, almost Mabel size down to some almost regular dude but broadening the range is fine too. Big Show has had some pretty big differences.
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George Gray, who wrestled as One Man Gang and Akeem was billed at 450 pounds. For the Wrestlemania X-Seven Gimmick Battle Royal WWF wanted to bring him back as Akeem, but he had lost so much weight that the Akeem costume didn't fit any more, so he had to come out as One Man Gang instead.
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To answer my own question; Big Boss Man wasn't really a Super Heavyweight but  Andre the Giant always felt impossible huge then you see stuff like this:   Andre the Giant billed height: 7' 4" Slick: 6' 4" Big Boss Man: 6' 7" Akeem: 6' 9"
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I dont think i ever realized how tall Slick is/was
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Suplex Liberace posted:ive honestly become obsessed with the name origin. I think liger is the 1st person to regularly use it and where the bomb comes from. I also could be way off base its hard to tell. The powerbomb - and there's footage, I believe - originates from Lou Thesz. Did he do it on purpose? Is it a messed up piledrive? Unclear. Admiral Joeslop posted:Andre the Giant billed height: 7' 4" I'm always delighted by the first Survivor Series main event which features so many big dudes that King Kong Bundy isn't even the second biggest guy. The 'smallest' is Rick Rude.
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Dawgstar posted:The powerbomb - and there's footage, I believe - originates from Lou Thesz. Did he do it on purpose? Is it a messed up piledrive? Unclear. https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/952591383021391874?s=20 Also, Jesus Christ, Andre: https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/952590480654692353?s=20
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Mar 3, 2023 14:06
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pedigree looks amazing when you just shoot kill the guy
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Does anyone have that gif of Stu Harts Canadian Destroyer?
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Dawgstar posted:The powerbomb - and there's footage, I believe - originates from Lou Thesz. Did he do it on purpose? Is it a messed up piledrive? Unclear. oh i know that but its the name origin Lid was asking for. Liger (that i can figure out) was the 1st person to add it to his move set and name it. Also think i read that the other guy claims he invented it because he did the sit up part with no promoting from Thesz.
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Sandman McMahon posted:Does anyone have that gif of Stu Harts Canadian Destroyer? 
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Has there ever been a Super Heavyweight sized wrestler that made a return at a much much smaller size? Akira tozawa
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Golga happened because Earthquake was down to, like, Evil Uno size rather than 1980s Hulk Hogan Destroying size
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Admiral Joeslop posted:To answer my own question; Big Boss Man wasn't really a Super Heavyweight but WWF/E somehow does a really good job of telling you how big all the dudes are but somehow never really visually getting it across because they only have big dudes. I'm still surprised sometimes at how big Billy Gunn is because in WWE, he was still generally one of the smaller guys on your screen.
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Hogan's a good example because he is enormous but they put him against nothing but giants. Hogan would be the biggest guy in AEW excluding the horses of Tall Man, Lance and Bigass Bill.Suplex Liberace posted:oh i know that but its the name origin Lid was asking for. Liger (that i can figure out) was the 1st person to add it to his move set and name it. Also think i read that the other guy claims he invented it because he did the sit up part with no promoting from Thesz. Perhaps powerbomb comes from a Japanese term like how they name things with lots of powerful words that don't mean anything?
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Tell me about Raven in ECW before he left in 97. The first time I saw Raven was as a kid vs Benoit in 98 WCW and he was instantly my favourite. Going back I've hardly seen any pre 97 Raven in ECW except for the Sandman/Funk match.
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CellBlock posted:WWF/E somehow does a really good job of telling you how big all the dudes are but somehow never really visually getting it across because they only have big dudes. I'm still surprised sometimes at how big Billy Gunn is because in WWE, he was still generally one of the smaller guys on your screen. Yeah, I was surprised at how tall Ted DiBiase and Jake Roberts were in person.
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Was the 1-2-3 Kid the first non-roided or just generally not huge guy with moderate success in the WWF? Did he even win any titles in that gimmick? Speaking of gimmicks do modern wrestlers still use the carny talk or is kayfabe so far gone that only the old timers use it?
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Was the 1-2-3 Kid the first non-roided or just generally not huge guy with moderate success in the WWF? Did he even win any titles in that gimmick? it depends on your definition of "roided" but Dynamite kid is probably the best example of an undersized by wwf standards succeeding in spite of it. (shame about his overall lack of humanity though)
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Kid won the tag titles with Marty Jannetty but that was about as far as he got with that gimmick
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I was really excited to see Kid in WWF. I watched Global and was blown away by Kid and a very young Jerry Lynn.
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someone on twitter a few years ago posted clips of a 1-2-3 Kid vs Pat Tanaka match that was either on Raw or Superstars and it looked amazing considering the era and program they were wrestling on
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Didn’t Kid also win them with Bob Holly?
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Yeah Kid won the tag titles with Bob Holly also but it wA only for a day.
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On surprisingly tall people, Waltman is 6'1" and was always billed 200+. Which is loving huge when compared to normal folks.
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Im sorry, this feels like a really stupid question but what do the wrestler and the ref argue about when they distract the ref so their friend on the outside can get some hits in?
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It’s a weird question but I guess a valid one. As a serious attempt at an answer, sometimes there’s something obvious in how they even got to that point like they could fake an injury like an eye poke or something and argue the other guy must have something on him. Or they could pretend they’re taking exception to a call the ref just made, like the 5 count to get them to back off from an opponent on the ropes (where their buddy is waiting to strike) was a fast count and they need to watch it or they’re next, etc. History Comes Inside! fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Mar 4, 2023 |
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Sometimes the heel throws the face outside and the ref tries to stop him from following.
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kertap posted:Im sorry, this feels like a really stupid question but what do the wrestler and the ref argue about when they distract the ref so their friend on the outside can get some hits in? whether Pitt the Elder was a better prime minister than Lord Palmerston
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I wasn't watching WCW much at the time and I'm confused...Buff Bagwell was doing the Chucky laugh like a year before Chucky showed up?
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Lamuella posted:whether Pitt the Elder was a better prime minister than Lord Palmerston Pitt the Elder. 
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Dawgstar posted:Pitt the Elder. Alright you asked for it Dawgs! 
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Dawgstar posted:Pitt the Elder. LORD PALMERSTON!
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MassRafTer posted:You should absolutely go to CMLL on Friday. Might even get lucky and be there on Dos Leyendas week. This was from awhile back, but thanks for the recommendation. I had an absolute blast. So much fun being in a hot crowd. One of my favorite spots from last night: https://twitter.com/aregularindyfan/status/1631864100870340614?s=46&t=0kl4CfDsmbzrnKxi0_5FYw
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