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No Dignity posted:If it's a splinter group maybe they didn't get to take all the production capability of the Dominion empire with them, and have to scramble for resources/allies again, imo that goes against the (admittedly speculative, but it's come up several times from several people) idea that these changelings are doing this because they can't reconcile the idea of changelings losing to the solids. why partner with them if it is from a position of inherent distrust? what could vadic et. al. possibly get out of this? why reignite a conflict that almost completely destroyed both sides if they don't have the backing of the dominion? part of what also made the changelings and the broader dominion so scary was that their, well, dominion extended across a stretch of the gamma quadrant that had a huge industrial base, cloning capabilities for military units, rapid ship building, stuff like that. these are all excellent ways to make them a legitimate threat but partners? with solids? i don't buy it
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Timby posted:notably, they're looking at canceling Yellowstone and starting a new show with mostly the same cast--swapping Matthew McConaughey for Kevin Costner Good. Because the past two seasons have been a massive decline in story quality, and I can't see it bouncing back. I binged the whole show recently and now have thoughts. Is there a TVIV thread? I can't find one. Anyway, just watched E3 of Picard. The best moment was when the camera luxuriated in Worf slamming the dude through the table. You earned those paychecks, stuntmen.
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Khanstant posted:there's also the mass effect reaper sound the ship keeps making. the videogame generation have become the cg crews The evil honk has become one of my perennial bugbears in scifi because it's just become such a common shorthand for "big scary evil space thing." I'm fairly certain it originates from Spielberg's War of the Worlds where it at least made sense as like an incomprehensible means of communication for the tripods but it's gotten to the point that any evil space thing has to be big and honk for some reason.
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Beeftweeter posted:again, imo that goes against the (admittedly speculative, but it's come up several times from several people) idea that these changelings are doing this because they can't reconcile the idea of changelings losing to the solids. why partner with them if it is from a position of inherent distrust? what could vadic et. al. possibly get out of this? why reignite a conflict that almost completely destroyed both sides if they don't have the backing of the dominion? we're three episodes in to a ten episode season, there's every chance the explanation will be insanely stupid or just ignored together maybe there'll actually be an interesting reason so maybe we should wait and see, we can always write bitchy post-mortems when we *know* it blew it
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3 posted:The evil honk has become one of my perennial bugbears in scifi because it's just become such a common shorthand for "big scary evil space thing." I'm fairly certain it originates from Spielberg's War of the Worlds where it at least made sense as like an incomprehensible means of communication for the tripods but it's gotten to the point that any evil space thing has to be big and honk for some reason. yeah this sucks though, I hate that honk
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3 posted:The evil honk has become one of my perennial bugbears in scifi because it's just become such a common shorthand for "big scary evil space thing." I'm fairly certain it originates from Spielberg's War of the Worlds where it at least made sense as like an incomprehensible means of communication for the tripods but it's gotten to the point that any evil space thing has to be big and honk for some reason. never played mass effect so i went to go see what you're all talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyawjH9kXms i'm... not seeing it? the one in the show was much lower pitched, and imo, it sounded like the borg motifs in first contact, which in turn reminded me of the v'ger ones both of which predate (spielberg's) war of the worlds and mass effect
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Beeftweeter posted:never played mass effect so i went to go see what you're all talking about its more this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2U3D_Tl6ds
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That DICK! posted:its more this one oh okay, yeah that is pretty similar given which show this is i think the previous points still stand though. i was conflicted between "hey, those are v'ger sound effects" and "are they supposed to be borg?" while watching
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Considering season 1 unashamedly ripped off the plot of ME1 I feel like it’s not an unwarranted comparison 
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Beeftweeter posted:besides, even if vadic is a changeling, what happened to the jem'hadar? Jem Hadar don't really work on long term missions as shock troops unless you have the ability to manufacture ketracel white, which requires a lot of production facilities
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3 posted:The evil honk has become one of my perennial bugbears in scifi because it's just become such a common shorthand for "big scary evil space thing." I'm fairly certain it originates from Spielberg's War of the Worlds where it at least made sense as like an incomprehensible means of communication for the tripods but it's gotten to the point that any evil space thing has to be big and honk for some reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVs2vJZN6VA I'm pretty sure you are right that this was the original and it was loving terrifying when I first saw it. But Spielberg understands how a scene works so it's not a random HONK IF YOU ARE EVIL.
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Beeftweeter posted:oh okay, yeah that is pretty similar I feel like in game it also sounded louder and much heavier on the honky fart noise barely hearing any of the sharper bits. Plus through sheer repetition it gets drilled in as they find ways to jam it in a ton.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Jem Hadar don't really work on long term missions as shock troops unless you have the ability to manufacture ketracel white, which requires a lot of production facilities you're not wrong, but we are shown that the white isn't actually necessary for the jem'hadar to survive; it's just something built into their genome, which the dominion certainly has the capability to modify. in DS9 it serves as a motivating addiction to keep them obedient considering the dominion had cloning facilities for the vorta and jem'hadar though, i agree it's not a stretch to assume that in the ~25-year interlude they may have made some changes but considering how ruthless the founders are i would not be surprised if they just wiped out the lot of them because they failed in their mission and cost the dominion their foothold in the alpha quadrant. we even see jem'hadar doing this out of a sense of pride in their mission and inherent dislike of disobedience, which is a recurring theme because the dominion are fascists also considering that the jem'hadar are also insanely effective at what they do, i don't think the founders would drop the concept entirely. in order to hold on to the portions of the gamma quadrant that remain under the dominion after the war (and i don't think we ever see any worlds on that side of the wormhole get liberated), they would need enforcers, and who better to do that than the ones they already have? plus they also now have a portal gun, why couldn't they just transport a ton of ketracel white to the alpha quadrant or wherever (this may in fact be the beta quadrant or something, particularly if the romulans are still in play) also as noted, traffic through the wormhole wasn't eliminated. we see this on lower decks. if the federation isn't screening for changeling infiltrators anymore, it's not a stretch to assume they stopped looking for white too
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Alchenar posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVs2vJZN6VA we have come a long way from Jeff Wayne's masterpiece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkXAmx33pj0
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Aces High posted:we have come a long way from Jeff Wayne's masterpiece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkXAmx33pj0 Still the greatest WOTW adaptation of all time.
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Surprisingly the explanation / confrontation moment between Picard and Beverly was done well, and her reasons for keeping it from Picard seemed somewhat believable, at least in the context of this show. Picard getting brain poison from it and Riker being scared to take risks because of his own lost son however really did not work for me, and just felt like artificial conflict for conflicts sake to have a cliffhanger where Riker ejects Picard from the bridge. They could have handled that much more subtly, and more on time with these two professionals that have been in many similar situations before. Space battle was p. cool though. Probably the best one I can remember in Nu Trek.
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Oof, Terry should really take a break from twitter at this point if he’s gonna start getting into arguments with professional reviewers and TrekMovie of all people. https://twitter.com/sopandeb/status/1631339644917886976?s=46&t=qlalCvpbJxtZ0RCrjTH3JQ I don’t really disagree with some of his points, but it’s pretty funny seeing Matalas get into these slapfights.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Oof, Terry should really take a break from twitter at this point if he’s gonna start getting into arguments with professional reviewers and TrekMovie of all people. yeah, i mean, to each their own. i disagree on the bev story beats and i think it's pretty clear what i think about the changelings, but it's not like they really took a hardline stance on anything so what did terry have to say? i don't see him in the replies n.b. if i were a professional reviewer i'd just troll him with *worf voice* DEFEND YOURSELF
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Beeftweeter posted:yeah, i mean, to each their own. i disagree on the bev story beats and i think it's pretty clear what i think about the changelings, but it's not like they really took a hardline stance on anything poo poo I hosed up the link. You kinda have to dig around in the comments because he’s replying to folks. Here’s part of it: https://twitter.com/terrymatalas/status/1632140178881146880?s=46&t=qlalCvpbJxtZ0RCrjTH3JQ
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Oof, Terry should really take a break from twitter at this point if he’s gonna start getting into arguments with professional reviewers and TrekMovie of all people. https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1632122118522683393?s=20 He’s doing a speed run here
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angerbeet posted:https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1632122118522683393?s=20
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“Doctor McCoy, it is completely illogical for you to continue to act so tsundere, baka.”
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I bet Picard S3 is going to be just enough of a hit that he's going to helm the next big Trek show or movie.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:poo poo I hosed up the link. You kinda have to dig around in the comments because he’s replying to folks. lmao okay so i think it's safe to say riker is not a changeling
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WHO THE gently caress IS SCRAEMING "LOG OFF" AT MY STAR TREK SHOW? SHOW YOURSELF COWARD! I WILL NEVER LOG OFF!
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inshallah
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Okay, this tweet is good. On second thought, don't log off, Terry https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1631878281715916800
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https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1632144950233276417 they're paying me for this. checkmate, nerds 
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also yeah, theory destroyed https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1632141737526452224
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'Shaw knows that Riker is a hero character'.
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nine-gear crow posted:Okay, this tweet is good. On second thought, don't log off, Terry Unfortunately, Terry Matalas is probably what would happen if one of us actually got to run a Trek. I know I’d gently caress it up.
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not me. i would do a good job and my opinions are the correct ones
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Idk man I think my big folly as Trek showrunner is just making more TNG/DS9/Voy without pushing anything radical or new, but way way too many Flotter episodes. Really just 5 Flotter episodes, only 2 where he's real bridge officer and a fair array of hit or miss episodic sci-fi escapades of various sort. I recognize this is not ideal, but I believe my offer is better than Picard and Discovery.
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Dealing with fan expectations in these shows must be frustrating. You've got to adhere to 50 years of history and expectations whilst also making a compelling modern 'prestige' show. Now I think Picard mostly fails at both of those, largely due to poor writing. The first season seemed to want to just do its own thing and didn't really feel like Star Trek at all. The titular Picard didnt feel like the Picard we knew, the callbacks seemed shoehorned in after the fact and the entire plot was a mess. Season 2 felt like it was trying to get at the roots of more traditional trek, but it just felt like imitation and the established mood and characters couldn't really do much with it. Season 3 feels like more of the same - they've taken to heart the criticism that 'its not like trek' and responded with lots of door opening noises and computer beeps and LCARS interfaces, (which is the wrong take) - but they're also trying to insert some character driven writing - but it's all messed up by the writing needing to service the plot set pieces, rather than the other way around, and as such their decisions seem stupid and inconsistent.
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