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The first of the USAF E-3s to be retired will be making its way to the boneyard in about a month. Followed over the next several months by a couple dozen stablemates, roughly half the fleet gone over the course of a year.
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Huh, I thought the the E-7 won’t be in service for years.
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hobbesmaster posted:Huh, I thought the the E-7 won’t be in service for years. That E-7 order is desperation.
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https://twitter.com/NTSB_Newsroom/status/1632016814011039744 Oof.
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Mar 5, 2023 00:39
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Crazy Raptor Man is back! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ya-W2M2lA
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Humphreys posted:I got sent this with no reference except "Thats day 1 done. Big wall of fire" Avalon airshow display...? That's on this weekend. Edit: Yep... last event on the program. quote:21:06 ______ Wall of Fire and Fireworks ______ 'Better than New Year's Eve!' Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Mar 5, 2023 |
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Mar 5, 2023 01:03
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atomicpile posted:Crazy Raptor Man is back! So his answer to severe design flaws in the powerplant of his prototype is to *checks notes* Turn it into a tilting-fan powered lift aircraft. 
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MrYenko posted:So his answer to severe design flaws in the powerplant of his prototype is to *checks notes* Turn it into a tilting-fan powered lift aircraft. It's so stupid it *has* to work!
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Apparently it's going to cost the better part of $6m to get Elvis' jet flightworthy again. Given that it uses 4x JT12, he could recoup a decent amount using it as a multi-engine trainer. But they don't make hush kits for the Jetstar so it might be impossible to get certified because it's too loud otherwise. Even if you found four engines that'd work, the FAA would happily slap an "EXPERIMENTAL" on there and you might as well just burn your money at that point. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Mar 5, 2023 |
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Mar 5, 2023 02:10
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atomicpile posted:Crazy Raptor Man is back! is this guy a marine
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Mar 5, 2023 02:15
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MrYenko posted:That E-7 order is desperation. Googled one and boy those aren't nearly as fun looking/iconic. Weird as hell though. Hell of an rear end on that plane.
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atomicpile posted:Crazy Raptor Man is back! That's a neat looking death trap he's designing
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Warbird posted:Googled one and boy those aren't nearly as fun looking/iconic. Weird as hell though. Hell of an rear end on that plane. Its weird that we’re back to  for vehicles with giant AESA radars. For example the scan far on the Long Beach…  This is the best Boeing can do on their marketing sites:   They do some… airbrushing on their marketing silhouettes  edit: I bet Japan’s E-767 is way nicer to fly and work in but wedgetails are in production and “combat” 737NGs are a thing with the P-8 so here we are. 
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Mar 5, 2023 03:11
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hobbesmaster posted:Its weird that we’re back to This looks pretty good and has three fixed AESA arrays. Never mind the droopy nose sensor. 
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Mar 5, 2023 03:27
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hobbesmaster posted:For example the scan far on the Long Beach…  Long Beach is the last truly beautiful warship we built. The Burkes are good looking, but pale in comparison. Tell me I’m wrong.
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I hadn’t heard of the E-10A program before, it was supposed to be an AWACS+JSTARS+River Joint on the 767 platform. Except… they wanted all three at the same time. This sounded ill advised to the EE part of my brain and I stumbled on this nifty systems engineering case study on the program. https://scholar.afit.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1028&context=docs#page34 quote:In summary, the E-10A program was an ambitious program. Perhaps it was too ambitious. The concept of incorporating three missions on one platform may have led to its demise. The physics of generating high energy radar (MP-RTIP) from an airborne platform that was also performing a critical signal listening (SIGINT) mission had never been demonstrated. The program was terminated in 2006 for more pressing Service priorities. Although there was ample support and involvement from the direct customer, ACC, all stakeholders and decision makers (OSD) didn‟t necessarily agree on the scope of the E-10 program. The project did not even make it to fancy render stage so all we have is stuff like: 
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Mar 5, 2023 03:29
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hobbesmaster posted:The physics of generating high energy radar (MP-RTIP) from an airborne platform that was also performing a critical signal listening (SIGINT) mission had never been demonstrated. Lmfao. I imagine this as the AWACS guys in the front half of the plane and the spooks in the back and they're constantly furious at each other on every mission, tripping each other in the aisle, unplugging each other's computers, stinking up each other's lavs
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hobbesmaster posted:I hadn’t heard of the E-10A program before, it was supposed to be an AWACS+JSTARS+River Joint on the 767 platform. Except… they wanted all three at the same time. This sounded ill advised to the EE part of my brain and I stumbled on this nifty systems engineering case study on the program.
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Sagebrush posted:Lmfao. Every mission is just constantly a 70s/80s school comedy where the radar guys wait for the rivet joint team to start listening and then blast
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atomicpile posted:Crazy Raptor Man is back! He wants to replace cabin pressurization with an nitrogen scrubber. 
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Famously reactive gas, nitrogen. Very easy to remove from the air, which is why the 1918 Nobel Prize for Chemistry was awarded to history’s most evil chemist for doing so.
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quote:Peter, as someone currently working at a company of hundreds of engineers towards certification of a Part 23 eVTOL aircraft, calling this project wildly ambitious is an understatement. I admire your ambition and courage to put this out there, but there is quite a lot to design what you are proposing. Control and stability from hover through transition, with the ability to continue safe flight with an engine, thruster, hydraulic system, or tilt/pitch control actuator is not a trivial add on, it is intrinsic to the design and architecture of the vehicle. There is a reason the number of vertical thrusters are not less than six, and many in the industry question if 6 is enough or optimal. The electric motors, controllers and batteries are significant certification programs. The vehicle architecture needs to consider avionics and power lane failures and continued safe flight. Software certification is a significant fraction of the program, and it starts from square one. Using a series hybrid approach for cruise power gives up a significant amount of power to conversation losses. The propulsive efficiency of a propeller is not so bad to explain your hypothesized performance gains. If it's possible to get 1500 lb static thrust from your electric thrusters, the power to do so must be obscenely high. There is a significant benefit to using longer wings.. get out of the mindset that there is an advantage to pulling this into a "standard" 2 car garage, of which a 20' door is getting pretty big. I have serious doubts that any automotive manufacturer would have interest in manufacturing an aircraft, aerospace quality systems are not at all in alignment with automotive. Pretty sure he's just like Galileo or de Vinci and he's just being oppressed and held down from making a breakthrough. What do these guys know, with all their degrees and stuff. 
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Everyone seems to be ignoring that THIS COULD BE GREAT
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slidebite posted:Pretty sure he's just like Galileo or de Vinci and he's just being oppressed and held down from making a breakthrough. What do these guys know, with all their degrees and stuff. Somebody keeps throwing money at him. Guess I should just start building crazy crap. Flying electric bicycle boat anyone?
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Salami Surgeon posted:Everyone seems to be ignoring that THIS COULD BE A GREAT BIG SMOKING CRATER
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slidebite posted:Pretty sure he's just like Galileo or de Vinci and he's just being oppressed and held down from making a breakthrough. What do these guys know, with all their degrees and stuff. From the comments: "This is a ground breaking design for a general aviation airplane." If it flies and he can get enough altitude, I'm sure it will be "ground breaking."
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Salami Surgeon posted:Everyone seems to be ignoring that THIS COULD BE GREAT uh-huh 
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Final glide can be quite long if you have the speed. Long glider lowpass - Barely making it to the airfield
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Apparently it's going to cost the better part of $6m to get Elvis' jet flightworthy again. You can re-engine a Jetstar with 4 TFE731s which would make it way quieter and maybe slightly less thirsty. Might be worth it if you're gonna put that much cash into getting that airplane airworthy again
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hobbesmaster posted:Huh, I thought the the E-7 won’t be in service for years. It won't. hobbesmaster posted:edit: The E-767 uses the E-3's mission systems, so JASDF is probably looking at replacement options. These jets just went through a major systems upgrade, which I assume is similar to the Block 40/45 upgrade the US E-3s went through, starting about 15 years ago. I haven't seen any useful details, but that would make sense. brains posted:the E-10 was 100% the result of some big brain genius in a five-sided office realizing the mission description of three platforms that needed replacing all had the word "surveillance" in it and thinking he had struck gold That's exactly what it was. The E-10's early death was a good one.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:From the comments: I dunno, the ground is pretty resilient.
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The Raptor guy sorta reminds me of someone I know who leaned into conspiracy theory stuff including flat Earth a few years back. His idea to find out if flat Earth was true was to go from somewhere like Boston to the North Pole by himself with whatever supplies, mainly camera equipment, he could fit into a backpack so he could see for sure what's really there. He had no experience for that type of thing other than enjoying hikes and outdoor activities occasionally. Like, that's great you want to try to see something yourself, but it's highly likely going to kill you and it's OK to lean on experts in that field instead. (I told the guy just to charter a jet and have it fly whatever route he deemed to favorable to his ideas or go do that MIG-29 ride that takes you to the edge of space.)
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Sagebrush posted:Lmfao. Unfortunately there is only one lav, and it is in the back of the plane, and because of security regs the front part of the plane must access it via this nifty access duct we installed
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Nebakenezzer posted:Unfortunately there is only one lav, and it is in the back of the plane, and because of security regs the front part of the plane must access it via this nifty access duct we installed The B-29 crew tunnel, but pneumatic like a bank drive-through.
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If you clog up the only lavatory, is that an urgency or a distress?
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Tune 121.5 and broadcast poo-poo.
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MrYenko posted:Tell me I’m wrong. The hull is nice but that superstructure is a shoebox made from a cinderblock.
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Plane watcher does a trip on a 732 solely for gravel operations at obscure airports in Northern Quebec https://youtu.be/CDG5dscf1Lg
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PainterofCrap posted:uh-huh Saw that goddamn thing in PopMech forty drat years ago
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slidebite posted:Plane watcher does a trip on a 732 solely for gravel operations at obscure airports in Northern Quebec FWIW, that is not a cheap flight. Like 3-4k. FrozenVent fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Mar 7, 2023 |
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