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| Jon Jones goes on a pre-fight bender in Vegas |
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3 | 8.11% |
| Jon Jones goes on a post-fight bender in Vegas |
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| Jon Jones goes on a mid-fight bender in Vegas |
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4 | 10.81% |
| Jon Jones tests positive for supercocaine, which USADA spends the next three months pretending is normal |
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18 | 48.65% |
| A well-fought majority draw |
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1 | 2.70% |
| No Contest on account of simultaneous dick kicks |
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10 | 27.03% |
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Alaois posted:Went to bed before the main, read back through the gdt when i woke up, genuinely shocked at how many people here expected Ciryl loving Gane to pose any kind of challenge to Jon Jones So with your perfect capacity for prognostication supported by facts and logic you clearly are now independently wealthy having remortgaged your house to bet all available wealth on JJ
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Mar 5, 2023 15:02
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Skjorte posted:It's silly to Always Bad one of the more skilled and athletic heavyweights in history. Other than showing bad grappling IQ against and being lead blanketed by Ngannou (in a fight that could easily have been scored 3-2 in his favor if the one round where Ngannou didn't throw a strike had been scored according to the letter of the law), Gane's shown to be a good, dangerous fighter at a size Jones hasn't had to contest with before. Jones hasn't looked like a world-beater for the past half decade and barely scraped by a no-legged Thiago Santos; him completing obliterating Gane was by no means a no brainer. Im sorry i disrespected the UFC's paper champion who won the paper belt by beating the two fattest guys in the fat guy division
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Mar 5, 2023 15:09
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Who are you even talking about?
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Mar 5, 2023 15:31
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Stipe was always the most interesting fight for Jones at HW and it seems probable we'll get that now. Francis was also interesting because the man has death for hands, but that's not happening so it's neither here nor there. Assuming Jones would cruise this fight was foolish, even though that turned out true. Being incredulous that people thought he might get bullied and beaten up having made a huge gain in weight against a naturally significantly bigger fighter is peak hindsight.
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Mar 5, 2023 16:06
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I don't care how much weight he had to put on for the fight, he was fighting a guy who got out-wrestled by Francis Ngannou and he's still Jon Jones granted i thought it was going to be a boring 5 round unanimous decision instead of a 1st round choke out but still
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Mar 5, 2023 16:19
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TheKingslayer posted:Who are you even talking about?
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Mar 5, 2023 16:48
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Alaois posted:Went to bed before the main, read back through the gdt when i woke up, genuinely shocked at how many people here expected Ciryl loving Gane to pose any kind of challenge to Jon Jones I'm just here for your geography lessons
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Mar 5, 2023 16:48
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Atom is that you
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Mar 5, 2023 16:55
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Fozzy The Bear posted:I'm just here for your geography lessons i may not be a genius about MMA but goddamnit i know how to read a map
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Mar 5, 2023 17:13
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Unperson_47 posted:Looks like it's just a plate that can be removed with the fighter's name on it so they probably just change out the plate for the new champ. I would hope the previous champ keeps their plate. Here's Shevchenko holding one of them. why do you guys keep calling these rubies, they are obviously sockets filled with the blood of the defeated
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Mar 5, 2023 18:20
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ilmucche posted:Actually gane should've gotten better value off the dick kick Jon Jones steroid use continues to pay dividends, even if his dick and balls were the things pulsing this time
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Mar 5, 2023 18:21
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Alaois posted:Im sorry i disrespected the UFC's paper champion who won the paper belt by beating the two fattest guys in the fat guy division waht
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Mar 5, 2023 18:52
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P sure its a reference to Gane becoming interim champ by beating Lewis and then getting back into title contention by beating Tuivasa
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Mar 5, 2023 19:31
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JOHN CENA posted:waht okay multiple people seem confused by this so maybe I'm thinking of someone else, but did Ciryl Gane's two successful interim championship fights not involve him fighting Derrick Lewis and Tai Tuivasa? maybe i'm being unfair to Derrick Lewis but Tai Tuivasa is uh 
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Mar 5, 2023 19:32
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there wasnt a belt on the line for the tuivasa fight
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Mar 5, 2023 19:37
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JOHN CENA posted:there wasnt a belt on the line for the tuivasa fight okay that's where my confusion was, I thought that the Tuivasa fight was for the interim belt again after Ngannou was stripped
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Mar 5, 2023 19:42
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Also Chris Barnett is the fattest man in the division.
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Mar 5, 2023 19:45
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LobsterMobster posted:Also Chris Barnett is the fattest man in the division. Him vs Jones is a money title fight tbh
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Mar 5, 2023 19:46
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Chris Barnett has forever endeared himself for that wheel kick into sumo flip he landed a year or so ago. Probably the best prelim moment I've ever seen.
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Mar 5, 2023 19:51
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Alaois posted:okay multiple people seem confused by this so maybe I'm thinking of someone else, but did Ciryl Gane's two successful interim championship fights not involve him fighting Derrick Lewis and Tai Tuivasa? Tuivasa was on a winning streak at the time which made it all seem somewhat reasonable. But lol there is no one in this division anymore and after Jones fights Stipe it will be entirely irrelevant.
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Mar 5, 2023 19:55
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maybe if the UFC paid fighters instead of anyone reasonably athletic and north of 225lbs seeing the NFL as safer, more ethical, and vastly more lucrative
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Mar 5, 2023 19:57
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Obviously UFC should pay fighters more but the difference between MMA pay (in any organization, even for champions) and NFL pay is astronomical isn't it?
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Mar 5, 2023 20:04
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Brut posted:Obviously UFC should pay fighters more but the difference between MMA pay (in any organization, even for champions) and NFL pay is astronomical isn't it?
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Mar 5, 2023 20:11
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blue footed boobie posted:Tuivasa was on a winning streak at the time which made it all seem somewhat reasonable. But lol there is no one in this division anymore and after Jones fights Stipe it will be entirely irrelevant. Blades and possibly Aspinall (who's demonstrably dangerous and talented, and with some actual grappling in his back pocket, though he's way too untested in the wrestling department to know how he'd fare against Jones, not to mention coming off of his one knee exploding) could pose interesting challenges, though obviously they have very limited pay per view appeal.
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Mar 5, 2023 20:11
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Jones is unfortunately very, very good at his job inside the cage.
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Mar 5, 2023 20:14
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LobsterMobster posted:Also Chris Barnett is the fattest man in the division. okay that's fair and a horrible omission on my part
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Mar 5, 2023 20:17
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Shumagorath posted:I can't substantiate this, but back when Jones was at his peak I recall people on this very forum saying he out-earned both his brothers. Even if that's correct, does the answer change if we exclude exactly Jones, McGregor and Rousey?
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Mar 5, 2023 20:19
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Shumagorath posted:I can't substantiate this, but back when Jones was at his peak I recall people on this very forum saying he out-earned both his brothers. I’d imagine on average and controlling for outliers, and considering a random lineman doesn’t pay for his own training, NFL is far and away better
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Mar 5, 2023 20:26
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Skjorte posted:Blades and possibly Aspinall (who's demonstrably dangerous and talented, and with some actual grappling in his back pocket, though he's way too untested in the wrestling department to know how he'd fare against Jones, not to mention coming off of his one knee exploding) could pose interesting challenges, though obviously they have very limited pay per view appeal. If I were a more conspiratorial man, I would say there are reasons Sergei Pavlovich was the alternate in case Gane or Jones could not fight, and that those reasons might be adjacent to why Blaydes is fighting Pavlovich next instead of getting a title shot.
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Mar 5, 2023 20:30
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Gane losing to Jones isn't a huge shock but I figured he'd last longer against Jon than loving Chael Sonnen lmao
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Mar 5, 2023 20:30
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NFL league minimum for a rookie is $750k, and that number goes up the more years in the league the player has
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Mar 5, 2023 20:32
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LobsterMobster posted:NFL league minimum for a rookie is $750k, and that number goes up the more years in the league the player has And meanwhile there are probably ~20 UFC fighters pulling in that much.
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Mar 5, 2023 20:42
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LobsterMobster posted:NFL league minimum for a rookie is $750k, and that number goes up the more years in the league the player has lol weren't amanda nunes and other champions getting 500k for title fights
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Mar 5, 2023 20:45
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beep by grandpa posted:lol weren't amanda nunes and other champions getting 500k for title fights Deveison supposedly got like $150k against Moreno
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Mar 5, 2023 20:52
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Sorry to say the reign of Gane is Gane just like that 
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Mar 5, 2023 21:19
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I don't think it was reasonable to expect Jones to do anything other than what he did with Gane. He's not gonna throw hands with a world class kickboxer who can't wrestle.
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Mar 5, 2023 22:03
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Skjorte posted:He sure did make Gane look like poo poo, though. Massively disappointing. Gane looked terrified. Kinda reminds me of Conor/Aldo how bad Jones got in his head
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Mar 5, 2023 22:04
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Gane should have stuck with his initial strategy
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Mar 5, 2023 22:06
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Mr. Nice! posted:I don't think it was reasonable to expect Jones to do anything other than what he did with Gane. He's not gonna throw hands with a world class kickboxer who can't wrestle. jonjonesvsthiagosantos.mp4 Tom Clancy is Dead fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Mar 5, 2023 |
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Mar 5, 2023 22:17
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:jonjonesvsthiagosantos.mp4 Sure but Santos is a long time BJJ black belt (Lineage: Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Helio Gracie > Francisco Mansor > Carlos Henrique > André Terencio > Thiago Santos)
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