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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


To be fair, they have several hundred years of organizing Crusades, OP.

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Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
"were surrounded? good, now we can kill the bastards in any direction" - zelenskyy, probably

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Delta-Wye posted:

"were surrounded? good, now we can kill the bastards in any direction" - zelenskyy, probably

"I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!"

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Delta-Wye posted:

"were surrounded? good, now we can kill the bastards in any direction" - zelenskyy, probably

When 80's action movies meet real life.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

DancingShade posted:

When 80's action movies meet real life.

The magic of cocaine in both cases

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

DancingShade posted:

Fortress is just shorthand for "no resupply good luck".

I don't recall Zelensky saying good luck

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007



is he saying Stalin was actually Maria Theresa in a scooby doo villain mask

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

they arent going to leave bakhmut are they

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

CODChimera posted:

they arent going to leave bakhmut are they

They will resupply fortress bakhmut entirely by airdropping anime and totenkopf patches using donated American planes

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

CODChimera posted:

they arent going to leave bakhmut are they

the roads are cut off. trying to leave would be a bakhmut point

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012


https://twitter.com/MkFoxbat/status/1632431770284048384

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Must own to be a Ukrainian soldier and get killed by some naked poo poo-smeared orc with a rusty shovel so that Zelensky can brag about holding the Control Point for another three days

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1632454588782505988

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Chillgamesh posted:

Must own to be a Ukrainian soldier and get killed by some naked poo poo-smeared orc with a rusty shovel so that Zelensky can brag about holding the Control Point for another three days

Just go to Helms Deep - bing bong, so simple!

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique


Things going great obviously

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die



That kinda rules, to be honest

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
machine guns havent really needed to change any for about 100 years, a 50 cal machine gun made in 1918 is going to be nearly identical in function to a 50 cal made in 2023.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

HonorableTB posted:

machine guns havent really needed to change any for about 100 years, a 50 cal machine gun made in 1918 is going to be nearly identical in function to a 50 cal made in 2023.

If by function you aren't including weight, complexity, ease of use, portability, compatibility with optics etc (what they've done in the video is decidedly not simple or easy and probably doesn't work great)

But yes in terms of plain dakka they are the same

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

HonorableTB posted:

machine guns havent really needed to change any for about 100 years, a 50 cal machine gun made in 1918 is going to be nearly identical in function to a 50 cal made in 2023.

what

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012
Maxim guns dont shoot 50 cal. They're kinda heavy and and water cooled so they aren't very mobile. The stock seems entirely pointless tbqh

Cheatum the Evil Midget
Sep 11, 2000
I COULDN'T BACK UP ANY OF MY ARGUEMENTS, IGNORE ME PLEASE.

Chillgamesh posted:

Must own to be a Ukrainian soldier and get killed by some naked poo poo-smeared orc with a rusty shovel so that Zelensky can brag about holding the Control Point for another three days

https://mobile.twitter.com/maddiespaniel/status/1632534422951182336?cxt=HHwWgIDSuY_a9qctAAAA

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Maxim guns dont shoot 50 cal. They're kinda heavy and and water cooled so they aren't very mobile. The stock seems entirely pointless tbqh

The stock is so you can attach your chainsaw bayonet and swing it.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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the M1910/30 Maxim is a version of the gun that was deployed by the Red Army starting in 1930 (hence "/30"); it's chambered for 7.62x54, and was designed to be able to accept optics

that said, the implication here is that it's not-good if the Ukrainians are so hard-up for equipment that they're using these things. Yes, there are a lot of ways where any one machine gun is close enough to functionality to a more contemporary one that you could use them interchangeably, but if you had a lot of modern machine guns, you wouldn't even be looking to bring these old things out of a showroom

unless it's also just a marketing stunt

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
I think people are also talking about the M2, which was designed in 1918 and still in service with refinements.

Also, I would think that a crew served machine gun would at least be something sent to them. It isn’t good on their part if the West can’t ship them at least a m60 or something.

Btw, the Challanger2s being sent over may be using first gen thermal sights which is going to limit their use for some degree.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 03:39 on Mar 6, 2023

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

gradenko_2000 posted:

the M1910/30 Maxim is a version of the gun that was deployed by the Red Army starting in 1930 (hence "/30"); it's chambered for 7.62x54, and was designed to be able to accept optics

that said, the implication here is that it's not-good if the Ukrainians are so hard-up for equipment that they're using these things. Yes, there are a lot of ways where any one machine gun is close enough to functionality to a more contemporary one that you could use them interchangeably, but if you had a lot of modern machine guns, you wouldn't even be looking to bring these old things out of a showroom

unless it's also just a marketing stunt

Maybe they took one of robo-Hitler's (from Wolfenstein 3D) chainguns off his gibbed remains? :thunk:

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Horseshoe theory posted:

Maybe they took one of robo-Hitler's (from Wolfenstein 3D) chainguns off his gibbed remains? :thunk:

Mein Fuhrer noooooooooo

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012


So the silencer on that will act as a weight to reduce muzzle climb and maybe flash hider? There is no way it will really silence a 7,62x54mm.

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

DancingShade posted:

The stock is so you can attach your chainsaw bayonet and swing it.




Instead of adopting a dignified and ergonomically sound sitting posture, now you have to lean on your machine gun like some kind of lazy millenial.



Speaking of bayonets, nobody has mentioned yet that a lot of WWI soldiers preferred to just club people with their rifles. After a while they started making actual clubs and maces that they would take on stuff like trench raids.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499807262084325379

one year anniversary for this prediction passed yesterday

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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supersnowman posted:

So the silencer on that will act as a weight to reduce muzzle climb and maybe flash hider? There is no way it will really silence a 7,62x54mm.

the way the US thought of the suppressor on the SIG SPEAR was that reducing the sound of the gun by whatever amount is still worth it, even if it's not "silenced" per se, and that suppressors also change the tone of the gunshot, making it more difficult to tell where it's coming from, which has value beyond reducing the decibels

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Ardennes posted:

Btw, the Challanger2s being sent over may be using first gen thermal sights which is going to limit their use for some degree.

Surely the British domestic arms industry can manufacture something better than a vintage thermal sight for Ukraine?

I kid, I kid. They'll have to order newer ones from China like everyone else.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Russia's Submarine Strategy—How Putin Plans to Rule Beneath the Waves

As war rages in Ukraine, both on land and in the air, alarm is growing over a Russian threat that is far less visible—but may be far more dangerous to the West.

Over the past several years, Moscow has been producing a series of submarines that have the capability to reach the most critical targets in the U.S. or continental Europe, and now NATO members are increasingly sounding the alarm over the activities of Vladimir Putin's submarine fleet. The Russian Navy commands one of the most diverse submarine fleets in the world. Some are capable of carrying ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads, which Moscow considers key to its strategic deterrent. Experts also say that, in the unlikely case of war, Russia's fleet will be used as one of the tools in the country's escalation management toolkit. In other words, the threat from Moscow's submarines armed with conventional weapons will allow it to deter Western adversaries from bringing their advantages in other areas into play.

Russia has been working to improve its submarine fleet since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. Putin said in December that the country would be building more nuclear-powered submarines, "which will ensure Russia's security for decades to come." Last week, Alexei Rakhmanov, the head of Saint Petersburg-based United Shipbuilding Corporation, said the Russian Navy will be replenished with two new nuclear-powered submarines by the end of the year.

There are growing fears among NATO members that Putin could use his fleet to target underwater cables and critical infrastructure that are vital to global communication systems.

...

Russia sees its economic future, its national security, and its ability to influence other nations as linked to its strength at sea, according to the Russia Maritime Studies Institute (RMSI), which conducts research on Russian military and economic issues linked to the world's oceans. Michael Peterson, RMSI director, told Newsweek that potential attacks to underwater critical infrastructure around the world present a "legitimate and serious threat."

"Russia for at least a decade has been developing very significant seabed warfare capabilities. Most of those are resident in what's called GUGI, that is Russia's Main Directorate of Deep-Sea Research," he said.

...

"Those people who are drawn out of the Russian Navy are the cream of the crop, the absolute best sailors that the Russian Navy has. And that's because the mission is so dangerous and so complex and so critical to Russian security," Peterson said. The organization has a number of assets at its disposal, including a submarine called Belgorod that is capable of launching a nuclear-powered torpedo.

"A number of other submarines are capable of either placing listening devices or explosives on things like deep sea cables. If there are ways to tap into information in those cables they are capable of doing that, if they want to, they can place sensors on the ocean floor," Peterson said.

"There are all kinds of capabilities that this directorate has that allow it to either conduct espionage, conduct escalation management activities, or to simply fight a war and impose costs on the adversary."

"You can imagine what would happen if transatlantic internet cables were cut by the Russians—that would have enormous financial implications and would also deeply restrict communications between the United States and continental Europe. Those capabilities are pretty significant," Peterson added.

Last year, Admiral Tony Radakin, the head of the U.K.'s armed forces, told The Times of London that undersea cables that transmit internet data are "the world's real information system" and it could be considered an "act of war" should Russia attempt to damage them. "This is a relatively new activity," said Peterson. "This is one of those areas in which Russia thinks it has an advantage." Undersea cables, especially undersea fiber optic cables, are critical pieces of fixed infrastructure that are extremely difficult to defend, he explained.

"Because they have the capability to conduct advanced deep-sea warfare, this is an asymmetric advantage for Russia." Russia is always seeking to "exploit asymmetries," he said. "If you have a piece of fixed infrastructure that is very difficult to defend, that Russia has the capability of attacking, then they will go after it. "That's why this has become a really important piece of potential real estate in a future conflict between Russia and NATO. This is a way for Russia to impose costs in an asymmetric way. And that is very difficult for NATO to defend. "That is a fundamental part of Russian warfighting, it's this ability to impose cost on their adversary in order to undercut the political will to fight."

Njord Wegge, a professor at the Norwegian Defense University College, and co-author of "The Russian Arctic Threat," a report published by the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank, told Newsweek that Norway has significantly ramped up patrols in the North Sea.

"The very significant sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines in the Baltic Sea was spectacular," Wegge said. "Russia has stopped all their deliveries to Europe, more or less. Norway is by far the biggest exporter of gas, at least. So, of course, in case of a conflict, those underwater installations would be vulnerable."

"This is reflected in the way in which the Norwegian Home Guard, for example, is protecting them,"
he added. "We have had NATO vessels, for example, from the U.K., patrolling in the North Sea. It seems to have been put higher on the awareness scale that we have to protect these installations."

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Yeah the M2 50 cal hasnt had fundamental changes since it was introduced but both the M240b and M249 are both way more recent and take the role of what that monstrosity is doing.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Maxim guns dont shoot 50 cal. They're kinda heavy and and water cooled so they aren't very mobile. The stock seems entirely pointless tbqh

It’s even funnier because the PKP is 7.62R and … is the argument that there’s no difference here?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Suppressors get incredibly hot and dirty, on a belt fed watercooled machine gun, you’re either going to melt/destroy the suppressor or you’re not making any use of the gun that justifies it over a PKM/PKP/ SG-43 etc

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Pretty funny to see the dawning worry and/or realisation.

Yeah you blew up a gas pipeline or two. Of course your own delicate underwater infrastructure is now free game. What did you think was going to happen?

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Mer-orcs.....mother of god.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I mean it's cool you can defend and patrol stuff but have fun permanently tying up every asw destroyer or frigate, forever more.

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A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1632473377079173120

seems we'll find out exactly how much ukraine evacuated from bakhmut very soon

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