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Mar 6, 2023 21:54
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i know the answer is 'no' but is elon even capable of learning another word. i don't think he's said anything 'technical' about twitter that wasn't the 'API stack' since he bought the company. it's literally like some engineer gave him a half sentence about what an API is, they used 'stack' in there, and he cut them off and wandered away and that's what he thinks the entirety of twitter is. just APIs. APIs in the stack, yep yep. gotta trim that API stack. oh the whole API stack is bad, gotta remake it. gotta remake the API stack.
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Mar 6, 2023 21:57
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Jokes on them I was only pretending to be bad at software development
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Mar 6, 2023 21:58
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I’m glad Elon started out that trolls are bad but now they are extremely cool when not directed at him
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Mar 6, 2023 22:02
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He learned that his primary fanbase really love being unaccountable for their harassment and child ogling, so these are no longer problems, only lifestyle choices.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:04
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I also just got a message today when opening Twitter that they're going to trash all the pre-existing livestreams that got uploaded over the years. Sure, most of the livestreams were trash, but that is also a massive archive of journalism just being thrown in the dumpster. When Vine got shuttered, unless you closed the account all the existing uploads still work and can be viewed to this day. When Twitter's livestream app Periscope got shut down, moving the live video into the main app, all the older streams could still be viewed. Both services offered a download link to get all the videos (I got all mine saved, but rearchiving it all was a massive pain) but their was only a small window of time in which to get that done. Sure, just keep on stripping out all the stuff that made the site an actual valuable tool and not just a burning dog turd of people screaming at each other.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:04
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Parkingtigers posted:I know, I know, wall of text, but Elon's absolutely not sticking up for the nice science account in that tweet. thank you for this context speaking of the street journalists that andy ngo likes to smear, i used to follow a small handful of good/decent leftists like chad loder and vishal singh who were disappeared from the site shortly after the musk takeover, for obvious reasons. any idea where those people are posting now? i'd like to keep reading their stuff.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:05
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The code stack is extremely brittle for no good reason 
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Mar 6, 2023 22:06
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i've been saying for years that the code stack was too brittle
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Mar 6, 2023 22:07
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Pastel Candy Snake posted:i've been saying for years that the code stack was too brittle YOU CAN'T CUT BACK ON API STACKING! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!!!"
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Mar 6, 2023 22:11
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Why didn’t Elon just make his own site if Twitter’s foundational code is broken?
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Mar 6, 2023 22:11
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If you cut back on stack spending, you will be ashamed by your words and deeds
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Mar 6, 2023 22:12
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meat police posted:The code stack is extremely brittle for no good reason Too many female employees to be Twitter.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:13
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Parkingtigers posted:Sure, just keep on stripping out all the stuff that made the site an actual valuable tool and not just a burning
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Mar 6, 2023 22:14
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Catturd is old news. These days, like 90% of Musk's replies are to the two doge avatar accounts
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Mar 6, 2023 22:17
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kazil posted:Catturd is old news. These days, like 90% of Musk's replies are to the two doge avatar accounts https://twitter.com/krangtnelson/status/1632848067899654154?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw
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Mar 6, 2023 22:19
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orteil is a real poster.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:26
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ishikabibble posted:i know the answer is 'no' but He definitely doesn't understand what a "stack" is. There is (broadly speaking) no such thing as a "code stack". Typically you would use the word "stack" to refer to a series of disparate layers of the system, only one or two of which is "code". The rest of the layers are things like database, platform/operating system, CI/CD deployment pipelines, external APIs, hardware, network fabric... Developers talk about a "stack" as referring to those three or four layers they come into immediate contact with. So like LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) is a stack. Or another variant would include different layers for front-end code (Javascript) and back-end code (Java, Python, etc). Like you would use this metaphor to describe all those different layers stacked on top of each other, because that's roughly how the system is constructed. A developer will use the term "stack" to refer to which particular loose collection of systems (of the many that exist) he or she is most familiar with. i.e. "I'm a LAMP stack guy." It's subtly nonsensical to say that the "code stack" is "brittle". There are sources of brittleness in any system to be sure, but if he's pinning it on the "stack" it means he's blaming the interactions between the different layers for the brittleness, as though the issue is that the integration between the back-end and the API layers stops working if you breathe on them wrong, or as though they have a really bad deployment setup in which package dependencies get automatically deployed or upgraded without proper vetting in lower environments or something. And these are possible, in fact common. The interactions between these layers can often be finicky. I doubt it is the case here, because a system as refined as Twitter was had certainly built up a very streamlined deployment process that smoothed out any of the issues that might crop up. It was stable for years, which means it was not brittle. But for him to use the phrase "code stack" means that he doesn't understand the fundamental terminology. Like, the problem is not the C# (or whatever) code itself or the front-end JS or the templating system; if it was he would say "the templating system is very brittle". He's parroting the term "code stack" because he knows there is "code" and he knows there is a "stack" and he knows things can be "brittle" but he doesn't know that it's not an "all at once" kind of thing. It's like saying the car wheels motor is inefficient.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:26
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Elon is making a big pot of soup, but he substitutes the salt in the recipe for sugar because he likes sugar more than salt, therefor the soup will be improved. Elon tastes and it obviously sucks now, he posts "The flavor profile of this soup is too brittle, my simple change somehow ruined it. Gonna need an entirely new recipe."
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Mar 6, 2023 22:33
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Parkingtigers posted:I know, I know, wall of text, but Elon's absolutely not sticking up for the nice science account in that tweet. And the "blackmail" aspect of that DCMA request is odd, but the actual "take my stuff out of your tweet" side of things is still the right of the creator to assert and Elon should be, as site owner, saying "yeah, they can't hit you up for money but they do have the right to ask you not to embed their stuff" but... oh yeah, there's me expecting the meme thief to acknowledge creator rights, duh. to finish tying this up in a neat little bow, it wasnt blackmail it was the actual creator letting the thief know the licensing fee for the media if they want to, you know, not be a thief and so the thief saw 'it costs $X for the use of this media' and cried crocodile tears about how mean and bad the guy who actually went out there and did the work is being to the poor poor thief
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Mar 6, 2023 22:38
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I thought Cloud Cuckoo Land was that zone in Banjo-Tooie with the impossible race against that fucker Canary Mary. This post reawakened a rage I had repressed since childhood. Also  at Elmo keeping Twitter in a state of permanent "under construction".
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Mar 6, 2023 22:39
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Ghostlight posted:orteil is a real poster. Orteil is basically the Thomas Midgley Jr. of game development. If anyone knows about accidentally causing untold harm via software, it's them.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:40
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Parkingtigers posted:Yo, just to be clear, Elon's message there isn't directed at the person he's replying to, that's a declaration that he's protecting Andy Ngo and Ian Miles Chong. Bear with me, this needs some context for those of you not terminally online on the hellsite. Concerning
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Mar 6, 2023 22:41
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Parkingtigers posted:I also just got a message today when opening Twitter that they're going to trash all the pre-existing livestreams that got uploaded over the years. Sure, most of the livestreams were trash, but that is also a massive archive of journalism just being thrown in the dumpster. wait does this mean spaces will get junked as well? i have to go save that chud spaces where they're whining about the recent midterms.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:49
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also here is elon talking about a rewrite vs a previous twitter engineer https://twitter.com/pwnsdx/status/1605442608603463680
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Mar 6, 2023 22:51
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priznat posted:I got an idea for the next hitman level They already did this in Hitman 2. Complete with electric car that traps the billionaire inside and catches on fire lol.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:51
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TulliusCicero posted:
wait what.. gonna have to explain this. william legate was obsessed with hunter bidens dick?
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Mar 6, 2023 22:53
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Strong Sauce posted:wait what.. gonna have to explain this. william legate was obsessed with hunter bidens dick? No no, Ebaum Musk is still mad at Wikipedia
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Mar 6, 2023 22:59
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Aramis posted:Orteil is basically the Thomas Midgley Jr. of game development. If anyone knows about accidentally causing untold harm via software, it's them. i was about to ask what Orteil did but then looked it up, its cookie clicker. i disagree , the idle game genre isnt a juggernaut the same way 3rd person shooters with [insert a bunch of mecanics and minor genre mixing] is.
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Mar 6, 2023 23:05
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Strong Sauce posted:wait what.. gonna have to explain this. william legate was obsessed with hunter bidens dick? No, Wikipedia refused to acknowledge the twitter files or put a content warning on Musk's article about them or something, noting that they were "not notable." Musk, being the adult he is, shot back by putting a flag on all actual verified checkmarks that the account may not be notable. There appears to be an actual wikipedia article up for the twitter files and I'm not actually gonna read it, but skimming it it looks to be full of sources and footnotes about how stupid the twitter files are.
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Mar 6, 2023 23:11
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632865818563293190 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632872927816302594 gonna post all my content on the site that won't take DMCA requests seriously, gently caress yeah and surely the guy that won't pay rent will pay me for my content
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Mar 6, 2023 23:53
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Lol Musk can wiggle his way out of a lot of shot but if he thinks he can beat the DMCA lobby
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Mar 6, 2023 23:55
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Isn't one of the main point of the DMCA to remove most discretionary leeway from the platform in these matters? Selective enforcement would open up twitter to some nasty liabilities, right?
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Who would have thought that Elon would rush to the defense of people who copy/paste other people's stuff and pass it off as their own?
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Mar 7, 2023 00:01
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Elon and Portnoy turf war on who has the most profitable business on other people's ideas
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Mar 7, 2023 00:04
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kazil posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632865818563293190 Of loving course it's Ryan Hall gargling Elon's boot over a policy of content ripoff free-for-all, the guy is one of the worst people in the already terrible meteorology-as-content space.
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Elon: People need to make a living and prosper from their work Tesla plant employees: pay us a living wage Elon: no, not like that
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Mar 7, 2023 00:11
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As proof of his support for content creators, here is the account of the guy who originally took the aurora footage that was then reuploaded by the guy who moaned to Musk https://twitter.com/NightLights_AM click the link, go on. Ratjaculation fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Mar 7, 2023 |
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Being a forum mod is hard sometimes. Hell of a price tag for him finding out he is bad at it
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