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That reminded me of the time the CEO at Experts Exchange heard about the concept of "dogfooding" and demanded to know why none of us ever asked questions on our own site when we ran into problems. We all rolled our eyes and gave it a try so we could show them what we already knew would happen:
"So you want us to do that when we run into a problem, instead of Googling and using what we find on StackOverflow, huh?"
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CPColin posted:That reminded me of the time the CEO at Experts Exchange heard about the concept of "dogfooding" and demanded to know why none of us ever asked questions on our own site when we ran into problems. We all rolled our eyes and gave it a try so we could show them what we already knew would happen: Giving the CEO an existential crisis seems like a reasonable response.
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CPColin posted:That reminded me of the time the CEO at Experts Exchange heard about the concept of "dogfooding" and demanded to know why none of us ever asked questions on our own site when we ran into problems. We all rolled our eyes and gave it a try so we could show them what we already knew would happen:
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Feb 28, 2023 19:32
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The employees hated the site and the management didn't know how it worked. A winning combination!
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Feb 28, 2023 20:06
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At least it had a funny domain name
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Feb 28, 2023 20:19
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CPColin posted:The employees hated the site and the management didn't know how it worked. A winning combination!
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Feb 28, 2023 22:35
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Welp, "Get laid off" achievement unlocked after 9 years in the career field
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Mar 7, 2023 20:55
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Welp, "Get laid off" achievement unlocked after 9 years in the career field Welcome, friend. I was also at 9 years.
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Mar 7, 2023 21:50
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 Pfft getting to your laid off career milestone late. I got laid off at 5 years because despite making money hand over fist and being in the literal perfect conditions for growth that company would hammer the layoff button any time they did something dumb with money, which was a lot. I survived 4 layoffs in 2 years there only to get hit by number 5.So far I've survived 1 round of layoffs at the current job so fingers crossed.
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Mar 7, 2023 22:03
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I wasn’t even 2 months in before I got laid off for the first time.
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Mar 7, 2023 22:33
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I dodged Twitter layoffs by leaving before the acquisition, was passed over in the first round of Meta layoffs and now I wake up each more praying for another round and that I'm included in it.
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Mar 7, 2023 22:44
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I got laid off five years into my first job, but my manager knew I was planning on going back to school anyway, so it was mutually beneficial.
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Mar 7, 2023 23:13
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Lol I might have prayed too hard https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-07/meta-is-said-to-plan-thousands-more-layoffs-as-soon-as-this-week#xj4y7vzkg
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Mar 7, 2023 23:43
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I survived 9 layoffs in my first company. One layoff in my second, and another layoff in my third. I’m at 12 years. Here’s to hoping I can keep it up. Edit: my bad this wasn’t fair. I thought I was in another thread. My first company was an aerospace company and those have layoffs every year. Not a fair comparison to tech
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Mar 7, 2023 23:49
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I was out of work for a year during the dot com crash. I'll never forget the horrors, and all the broken bodies I saw in that year (because I was playing a lot of Diablo).
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Mar 8, 2023 00:00
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Psh, all of you are late - I got laid off before I even started working in tech! (I got laid off 4 months before I started my first dev internship, and the severance covered what would have been my wages until I quit  )
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Twenty years: Laid off twice, fired once, quit a few times, including once without a job lined up, and they were all amazing.
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I’m probably cheating in the game industry. Survived 3 yearly layoffs. Relocated to a different EA owned studio 400mi away They closed that studio but kept my team so moved back to the same building I was at Laid off 6 months later Moved to WA and worked there for 2 1/2 years till they laid off a third and sold my third to SOE Worked there for a year till I did my part of 100% turnover and went back to the studio that sold me like chattel. Survived 7 layoffs in 6 years there till I jumped to a startup. The pitch to stay instead was I could be part of the next layoff and I’d be there for 10 years so it’d be more severance. (I negotiated my original start date when I returned, always try to do this.) Startup grew too big too fast and had 3 layoffs in 4 years before a successful exit. Stayed with the acquisition for 3 years as it became apparent they had no idea what to do with us and laid off half the studio before closing it completely. Hoped to a new place just before Covid where I’ve been for 3 years only seeing one major layoff. So grand told 23 years in games next month, 1 layoff, 3 studio closing with 2 of those being relocated. Survived 16 rounds of layoffs offs. Not a bad ratio.
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Mar 8, 2023 05:42
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Lol imagine working at a place long enough to be laid off.
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Mar 8, 2023 05:49
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I've had two jobs in the past 15 years. I quit the first one and I'm still at the other.
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Mar 8, 2023 06:00
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I’ve never stayed at a company for more than 2.5 years. I’ve also never been laid off or fired.
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Mar 8, 2023 06:01
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OTOH if you move jobs every 2 years you make 20 - 50% more every move.
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My longest tenure was 3.5 years, at a place that was great for the first half and then started plummeting a few months before COVID.
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I stayed at a place doing IT small business consulting for 15 years, it was a huge mistake since pivoting my career my longest tenure has been 3 years
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My longest tenure was around 4.5 years two times for two companies. Both times I was burnt out and missing out on lots of salary despite promotions. I'd love to be able to stay with one company indefinitely, but in my experience you lose money and your situation gets shittier as the continue to expect more and more from you. Especially if you work for a company where the only path up is the management track.
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wilderthanmild posted:My longest tenure was around 4.5 years two times for two companies. Both times I was burnt out and missing out on lots of salary despite promotions. This is what I'm dealing with now. I've been at my current employer for four years, which is my longest tenure. Despite being promoted to principal, I'm underpaid. I've had a couple of 3% raises and an 8% raise that came with my promotion, so I'm a bit behind the curve now. The type of work I get to do is becoming shittier and shittier, as new teams form around me and are staffed with new hires and they get to do the more interesting work, I'm stuck with mundane crap and teams struggling to work with old crappy legacy code that I know best (despite not having written any of it). I've seriously considered looking around and have shot my application off to a couple of places, but haven't gone into full time job hunting mode yet, because my job is 100% remote and I'm able to work 40 hours or less a week. The team I'm on is also rotting a bit, I'm surrounded by people who have learned helplessness and the other useful folks that knew things have all either been promoted to management or have left.
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biceps crimes posted:This is what I'm dealing with now. I've been at my current employer for four years, which is my longest tenure. Despite being promoted to principal, I'm underpaid. I've had a couple of 3% raises and an 8% raise that came with my promotion, so I'm a bit behind the curve now. The type of work I get to do is becoming shittier and shittier, as new teams form around me and are staffed with new hires and they get to do the more interesting work, I'm stuck with mundane crap and teams struggling to work with old crappy legacy code that I know best (despite not having written any of it). I've seriously considered looking around and have shot my application off to a couple of places, but haven't gone into full time job hunting mode yet, because my job is 100% remote and I'm able to work 40 hours or less a week. The team I'm on is also rotting a bit, I'm surrounded by people who have learned helplessness and the other useful folks that knew things have all either been promoted to management or have left. Look around, but I hope you've also emphasized your
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biceps crimes posted:This is what I'm dealing with now. I've been at my current employer for four years, which is my longest tenure. Despite being promoted to principal, I'm underpaid. I've had a couple of 3% raises and an 8% raise that came with my promotion, so I'm a bit behind the curve now. The type of work I get to do is becoming shittier and shittier, as new teams form around me and are staffed with new hires and they get to do the more interesting work, I'm stuck with mundane crap and teams struggling to work with old crappy legacy code that I know best (despite not having written any of it). I've seriously considered looking around and have shot my application off to a couple of places, but haven't gone into full time job hunting mode yet, because my job is 100% remote and I'm able to work 40 hours or less a week. The team I'm on is also rotting a bit, I'm surrounded by people who have learned helplessness and the other useful folks that knew things have all either been promoted to management or have left. Ask the new hires what their salary is. I bet they make more than you lol
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^^ Levels.FYI is mandatory viewing every couple of months, even after being at a company for a few years. Moved to SF, joined a startup. Startup failed at 11 months in so everyone got laid off, got at least a job that paid 30% more in base pay and finally got a senior in the job title. Moved away from SF while going remote, saw through an IPO, by the time the lockup came the stock options were barely profitable (and at times dipped below strike). Got laid off when they acquired another company. Got a new job with slight bump in pay and a big signing bonus and Staff Engineer in the job title, about a month before a hiring freeze. Hoping that doesn't portend a 3rd layoff, but who knows! That's the fun of this industry!!
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Nybble posted:That's the fun of this industry!! The Dwarf Fortress definition of "fun"
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Volmarias posted:The Dwarf Fortress definition of "fun" Losing is fun!
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FlapYoJacks posted:Ask the new hires what their salary is. I bet they make more than you lol I’m always pretty amazed when I see people that have been at Amazon for years and years, getting promoted to the level I was hired at, who make significantly less than I do. Gotta remember that it will happen to me too, eventually.
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Numbers are bullshit. Grab and hoard what you can, as that is the game we have to play here.
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2 years is the point where it starts to make sense to look elsewhere. It’s very sad because this is the point where you’re reaching peak effectivity in your role, and actually are really valuable, but for whatever reason our modern society has decided the opposite. Take your 3% raise or leave for 20%. This is what capitalism has become, like the above stated. If you don’t play the game right, you lose. Edit: leaving sounds like a great decision 
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Final paycheck was supposed to be delivered today... From SVB. Jesus Christ.
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your check will still arrive and it will clear, don't worry
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Oof, I was laid off/made redundant/put on forced leave or whatever. I get a month of salary and then I have to go on the dole.
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Sorry to all those losing their jobs. With people thinking the economy is actually going to perform better than previously thought, what's the reason for thesr? Is it just rectifying over hiring during COVID? Copying the big companies or something else?
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The company I started at had no real experience doing IT consulting. They were a business consulting company who saw everyone else making money hand over fist, brought on some partners from the tech world of varying competency, and then made a bunch of bad hiring decisions. Their big venture projects fell through, and they didn't have the connections or motivation neccesary to sell their tech consultants the old fashioned way. The few good devs were poached early. I only stayed as long as I did because I absolutely hosed them during salary negotiations and didn't really suffer much for not having anything to do.
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Mega Comrade posted:Sorry to all those losing their jobs. A surprising number of decisions in software companies are made cargo cult style, especially once you get a critical mass of middle managers. I believe there is no other reason than "twitter and the other companies are doing it."
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