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Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
My universal experience of property transactions is that they're extraordinarily slow and bafflingly opaque. Like, how is it that we allow the most important financial transactions of most people's lives to be handled by a bunch of dudes who always seem to be improvising it all as they go along.

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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Ahh, I do love the historical-figure-on-modern-social-media meme.

Oh, wait.....

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
if so many of these boat arrivals lack legitimate claims on refugee status, you wouldn't need to limit their access to apply for it really. that'd be more useful if you were concerned they might actually be entitled to protection and you don't want their claims to reach the courts. kind of a lovely attitude really

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

"Here's your slave starter kit young man, pip pip into the fence with you."

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012

How long until ‘accusing governments of fascism is antisemitic’ becomes a sensible opinion. I give until lunchtime before he’s accused of this.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
Most points already covered re: home buying / mortgage chat but here's my take to summarise anyway:

- If you need to borrow less than the AIP then that's a good thing, not a bad thing. There's no reason the bank would reject you purely because you wanted to borrow less money.
- If the bank values the property so much below your offer that it's disinclined to lend then you should probably reflect on whether this is actually a good price for you to be paying.
- It may seem like a hassle but things like surveyors are also for your own good. You don't want to be buying something that has serious issues that could cost you a lot of money to repair.
- As was already mentioned always try and have director phone numbers and write the names down of anyone you talked to. Don't be afraid to ask dumb questions about who someone is/their job in the process just so you're clear.
- Keep track of deadlines for parts of the process so you can keep prodding your solicitors to stop them from being slow. When your solicitor says they're waiting for their solicitor ask your solicitor to prod their solicitor. Solicitors are always loving procrastinating on everything ever.

Good luck and hopefully at the end of it all you'll have the home you want!

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


Lord of the Llamas posted:

Solicitors are always loving procrastinating on everything ever.

Until you get to the end of the progress when you quickly become their favourite person because they want it off their plate.

In terms of surveys I figured I'd go for the top level one for my current place, but then the actual surveyor called me and said I don't need it unless I'm planning to make structural alterations. Said he'd gladly take my money, but if I just wanted to live there then it was a waste. Which was nice.

Don't get the cheapest survey though.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Cairo - 3 days between offer and completion. Cannot believe the palaver this end.
I managed to buy my flat here in 6 weeks (not including the 2 weeks my seller disappeared immediately after I made the offer). But as no-one gives mortgages to old biddies pushing 60 with small incomes had to raid every spot of savings and pension I could to be a cash buyer. Did my own searches and saved a couple of months.
It's 26sqm NIA but it's all mine. And thank goodness I did because when COVID hit 3 months after I moved in my main savings account from which I was paying £600pm rent was frozen for over a year and I'd have been in deep doggy do.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/allpilgrim/status/1633382064409001984

Amazing, amazing tweets.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

the asylum law is clearly illegal, but i guess the tories desperately want a battle with the courts similar to brexit to just to keep nhs/strikes/no food off the front pages

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

We got our mortgage through HSBC and honestly, no problems whatsoever, plain sailing the whole way.

Every solicitor loving sucks though, you have to hound them every step of the way and hope that everyone else in the chain is hounding theirs too.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Sat through a two-hour mortgage meeting with HSBC before we got to the bit where the computer says yes and it turned out they haven't noticed the property in question was a flat and they actually couldn't offer us anything at all :negative:

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



I cannot tell if this is parody or not. It seems not but I can't believe this is an actual opinion anyone would be stupid enough to vocalise the thought that Anne Frank was bad for breaking the law by trying not to be sent to a death camp.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


Impressive to be so anti-Labour you'll hate both Corbyn and Blair and vice signal both sentiments in the same tweet.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

forkboy84 posted:

I cannot tell if this is parody or not. It seems not but I can't believe this is an actual opinion anyone would be stupid enough to vocalise the thought that Anne Frank was bad.

I believe the point the poster was trying to make was that Legality does not equal morality. It's just in doing so he's now arguing that we should all do evil things regardless of legality.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yes, in their analogy the international community is the third reich and Britain should hide in a cupboard.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

forkboy84 posted:

I cannot tell if this is parody or not. It seems not but I can't believe this is an actual opinion anyone would be stupid enough to vocalise the thought that Anne Frank was bad for breaking the law by trying not to be sent to a death camp.

Nah read it again - Corbyn is saying the Tories are willing to break the law (bad) in order to do their policy (bad), this carcinogen is saying that Anne Frank broke the law in order to try and survive.

Therefore because one instance where violating the law was good, by the transient property all violations of the law is good. Except when Tony Blair violated the law, which was bad.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Tesseraction posted:

Nah read it again - Corbyn is saying the Tories are willing to break the law (bad) in order to do their policy (bad), this carcinogen is saying that Anne Frank broke the law in order to try and survive.

Therefore because one instance where violating the law was good, by the transient property all violations of the law is good. Except when Tony Blair violated the law, which was bad.

Honestly, I just start reading it & then I can't see anything because my eyeballs fill with blood as a defence method

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
If you want to make sense of why Britain (Anne Frank) is justified in breaking the law, you would need to find out why they think that the international community (the Nazis) is planning to genocide Britain and how.

I think you can guess where that goes though.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Renfield posted:

My experience of getting a mortgage - offer accepted on flat for £111k. Flats in the same block had recently sold for 115-120.. the bank valued the property at 80k *just* low enough to incur the "Higher Lending Charge" with the deposit I had, by pure coincidence.
This was 2007, so I was lucky that I didn't go through with it just before the big crash.

I'm buying a flat at £110k right now, higher priced than the others in the block but it has been fantastically done up and I wanted to move in the instant I set foot in it, compared to the featureless white-walled boxes in the rest of the block that made me pull a :geno: face.

I am now envisioning the bank deciding that it is actually a valueless shitbox, but I am fortunate enough to work for a large estate agency firm (in IT) and got some employee perks, so if it all goes horribly wrong then I haven't actually had to spend much money up front.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Tesseraction posted:

Nah read it again - Corbyn is saying the Tories are willing to break the law (bad) in order to do their policy (bad), this carcinogen is saying that Anne Frank broke the law in order to try and survive.

Therefore because one instance where violating the law was good, by the transient property all violations of the law is good. Except when Tony Blair violated the law, which was bad.

Perhaps they're saying that the Iraq war was good and we should lie to get into more wars. Even if it is directly responsible for the massive flood of refugees from the Middle East now.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Gonzo McFee posted:

Perhaps they're saying that the Iraq war was good and we should lie to get into more wars. Even if it is directly responsible for the massive flood of refugees from the Middle East now.

Nah check their hashtag in their name - their entire thing is being anti-Labour regardless of what mental gymnastics they have to perform. I did check their feed briefly to see if it was an ironic thing or not, and all I have is a tumour to show for it.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Getting flashbacks to when I saw comments on BBC articles about ZaNu Lie-bour under Tony B-Liar from people who then turned around on a dime to suck the collective dick of Tory austerity despite it blatantly making GBS threads up the economy, likely for them specifically too.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Carl Schmitt morality. Politics is about helping your ingroup and punishing your outgroup. Reason and consistency are for the weak. And then when you poo poo up your whole country and end up in a camp you can remain unrepentant and go on a lecture tour.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Tesseraction posted:

Getting flashbacks to when I saw comments on BBC articles about ZaNu Lie-bour under Tony B-Liar from people who then turned around on a dime to suck the collective dick of Tory austerity despite it blatantly making GBS threads up the economy, likely for them specifically too.

What was that ZaNu thing about anyway? I didn't know then and I can't even hazard a guess now.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Guavanaut posted:

Carl Schmitt morality. Politics is about helping your ingroup and punishing your outgroup.

In fairness, I'm all about this, democracy only for the proletariat, the Socialist Campaign Group types should be the furthest right politics tolerated. Absolute freedom for everyone to the left of those, & total exclusion from society from anyone right of them. Kronstadt Declaration is my guiding political document.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

What was that ZaNu thing about anyway? I didn't know then and I can't even hazard a guess now.

Mugabe's party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZANU%E2%80%93PF

Was meant to be a thing about Labour ruining the economy (referencing Zimbabwe's insane economic deflation).

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

In fairness, I'm all about this, democracy only for the proletariat, the Socialist Campaign Group types should be the furthest right politics tolerated. Absolute freedom for everyone to the left of those, & total exclusion from society from anyone right of them.
With Schmitt it's more about ingroups as personal advantage, patronage, and clientelism, which is why authoritarian politics often devolves into a bunch of squabbling cunts trying to be the big guy.

Or signalling your fealty to various kings on twitter in the hope that they notice you.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1633375273851682818

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

forkboy84 posted:

Honestly, I just start reading it & then I can't see anything because my eyeballs fill with blood as a defence method

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Answers Me posted:

How long until ‘accusing governments of fascism is antisemitic’ becomes a sensible opinion. I give until lunchtime before he’s accused of this.

I definitely remember how “neutrality from all BBC employees” was rigorously upheld when Andrew Neil worked for them

E: actually what about Alan loving Sugar

Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Mar 8, 2023

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010
bop the stoats!!!

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters




Just a thought. What we need is a loving massive boat.

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


Can anyone pinpoint the time at which the Labour party were subsumed into the tories?

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Sir Sidney Poitier posted:

Can anyone pinpoint the time at which the Labour party were subsumed into the tories?

Most recently? The second Keith won the leadership election.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Sir Sidney Poitier posted:

Can anyone pinpoint the time at which the Labour party were subsumed into the tories?

I was Tony Blair op.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

More generally they've been that way since at least blair was in power and corbyn never really changed it, just briefly suppressed the rank bastards that make up the majority of the party. Blair did exactly what starmer's doing and used the collapse of the tories to stuff the party with utter heaps of poo poo who then sat around festering ever since. That's why all the stupidest, most odious cretins of the corbyn years are being welcomed back in, because it's never been about doing anything for anyone except their mates.

Arguably of course they've been rich shitebags who couldn't hack it in the tories for probably as long as they've been a party.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Mar 8, 2023

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I'd argue the 80s, when Kinnock really managed to wrest control and crush the left.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'd argue at least the 60s with the "you can be Black as long as you're British" compromise of the Race Relations and Migration Bills.

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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Clear blue water between Labour and the Tories? Nah, just a poo poo-filled stream.

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