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Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook

Lockback posted:

Mavs are 6-7 after the Kyrie Trade
Durant played 3 games with the Suns

Midseason trades for stars is does not really work out (for that season)

How about that Westbrook deal lol

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Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.
Reporter standing in the cold with sage smoke blowing on his face waiting 2 hours for Kyrie to finally get around to answering "What about NOLA's Pick and Roll defense was so tough last night?"

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
Watching the Kyrie stans and Elon stans fight :sickos:

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP
To me the worst part of all the sports gambling now is that you can do it from your phone.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Death By Yogurt posted:

"Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point"

this is the kyrie cycle

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook

kingcobweb posted:

They run these ads like “lightning bets, bet NOW on the NEXT PLAY (if you have a problem with gambling please call…)”

It's a pretty huge red flag when the disclaimer about getting gambling help in each state is the same length as the main ad

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Fate Accomplice posted:

I don't get sports gambling for two reasons

the first and less important is that I know that I don't know as much as the whales that move lines and if I'm putting money down I want a little more intuition.

Most people don't think that way though. Sports fans infamously think they are extremely knowledgeable when they in fact aren't. If you watch a ton of basketball, it's not abnormal to assume you will be correct more often than not about what's going to happen in a given game! Furthermore, they lure you in with basically free money bets. Every time I opened twitter on Christmas, the first thing I would see was an ad for one of these services offering to start you with a bet that Nikola Jokic would score 1 point.

quote:

the second is the reason I started following sports is cause it's a really low stakes way to a) enjoy some drama and intense moments / feats of human performance and skill and b) feel like part of a community, whether that's an easy way to start a conversation or mild joshing with fans of opposing teams.

if you put $ stakes on it the fun disappears.

But many people want the stakes to be higher, particularly on games they otherwise wouldn't be interested in. The average fan would not even think to watch, i dunno, East Carolina vs. Appalachian State in a basketball game, but if they could get money from it suddenly it's interesting.

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook
I think betting on games can definitely make the highs higher but man the lows would be wayyyyy lower.

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Red Rox posted:

I think betting on games can definitely make the highs higher but man the lows would be wayyyyy lower.

Bet against the team you root for so you just feel mildly depressed all the time.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
I had fun penny betting for a while and was pretty drat good at it, but, I am sure it's like poker where I'm a Legendary rated poker player in Puzzle Pirates but in a casino I just end up losing all my money on blinds.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Red Rox posted:

It's a pretty huge red flag when the disclaimer about getting gambling help in each state is the same length as the main ad

I think the average episode of No Dunks requires one +30 second to get through the betmgm Ad and 4 more to get through the disclaimers

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Lockback posted:

Yeah, that's where even the most rational, logic based person will break down and weep.

The best way to play blood bowl is to just throw caution to the wind and watch your opponent slowly break down as your statistically probable outcomes keep succeeding because they think you're "due" for something to fail

I mean sure sometimes they do actually fail but then it's just funny

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
Kevin Durant rolled a 1 on a GFI yesterday.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

kingcobweb posted:

If you are doing repeatedly lightning bets on the next play of the game you absolutely have a gambling problem almost by definition

I could see an exception to this being if you're at a game with a friend and it's part of an experience - especially if it's just a private group and you're betting on like swinging strike vs ball in play stuff - but totally agree doing it regularly or from home or alone are all red flags. sports gambling should probably be restricted to in-venue spectators. gambling is awful in general, any product or service that requires multiple addiction websites and hotlines for various states be appended absolutely shouldn't be advertised

IcePhoenix posted:

DraftKings is even sponsoring AEW PPVs now and allowing people to bet on scripted content seems just so unhealthily predatory even if technically nobody betting actually knows the outcome

as someone who doesn't watch AEW or know any wrestlers I entered one of the free DK pools for the last event and won $10 so I’m fine with this actually.

toggle
Nov 7, 2005


Time to retire


Argh, i thought he hurt it when he landed not before. :(

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Bip Roberts posted:

Kevin Durant rolled a 1 on a GFI yesterday.

followed by a 10 on the injury roll then what looks to be a 54 on the casualty table. That's rough.


woulda been more hosed if he tripped and died during warmups, but nurgle would be happy.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Rick posted:

I had fun penny betting for a while and was pretty drat good at it, but, I am sure it's like poker where I'm a Legendary rated poker player in Puzzle Pirates but in a casino I just end up losing all my money on blinds.

I’ve always been pretty good at cards when I’ve played with my friends, so I hit up a poker room when I had to kill a few hours in a shitbox casino. I was nervous and drunk so I kept loving up the order of operations and doing stuff that irritated the die hards but walked away like $500 up, they were so mad

Gambling is fun and keeps you engaged if you can strictly stick to what you can afford to lose. I’m sitting here waiting for the Hawks to get hot, I need them to make a run down the stretch to hit their wins o/u so I can break even on the season

havelock
Jan 20, 2004

IGNORE ME
Soiled Meat
Intro to philosophy 101 etc etc but it's stuff like that that makes me think Kyrie is reachable. At some level it seems like he cares about oppression and also has a few correct ideas about what leads to and reinforces it, but clearly the whole picture he's developed is deeply flawed. Maybe it's a distinction without a difference, but falling victim to (or whatever willfully engaging with) ideas and movements that are at least nominally about liberation feels easier to correct than something based on hate or an implied desire to just invert the oppressor / oppressed relationship like a lot of the common paths to the right. It seems like he got to the goofy poo poo he did via trying to understand (and find a path forward from) Black oppression, rather than starting with anti-semitism and finding what else could be built on that, but who knows.

If the Mavs continue their slide I hope it's bad enough to get Kidd fired.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

havelock posted:

Intro to philosophy 101 etc etc but it's stuff like that that makes me think Kyrie is reachable. At some level it seems like he cares about oppression and also has a few correct ideas about what leads to and reinforces it, but clearly the whole picture he's developed is deeply flawed. Maybe it's a distinction without a difference, but falling victim to (or whatever willfully engaging with) ideas and movements that are at least nominally about liberation feels easier to correct than something based on hate or an implied desire to just invert the oppressor / oppressed relationship like a lot of the common paths to the right. It seems like he got to the goofy poo poo he did via trying to understand (and find a path forward from) Black oppression, rather than starting with anti-semitism and finding what else could be built on that, but who knows.

If the Mavs continue their slide I hope it's bad enough to get Kidd fired.

Or maybe he has an end goal he wants to get to and picks up whatever poo poo he wants to that supports it

Not to sound all “but you participate in a society” and all but how did he think his Flytraps were made?

Same poo poo about the vaccine mandate. He’s sitting out in solidarity for those that lost their job over it until he didn’t have to anymore

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

havelock posted:

Intro to philosophy 101 etc etc but it's stuff like that that makes me think Kyrie is reachable. At some level it seems like he cares about oppression and also has a few correct ideas about what leads to and reinforces it, but clearly the whole picture he's developed is deeply flawed. Maybe it's a distinction without a difference, but falling victim to (or whatever willfully engaging with) ideas and movements that are at least nominally about liberation feels easier to correct than something based on hate or an implied desire to just invert the oppressor / oppressed relationship like a lot of the common paths to the right. It seems like he got to the goofy poo poo he did via trying to understand (and find a path forward from) Black oppression, rather than starting with anti-semitism and finding what else could be built on that, but who knows.


You got that all in just 3 hours?

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
Just because someone overlaps with your politics doesn’t mean they can’t be a dumb piece of poo poo, it’s sometimes a hard lesson to learn

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

sharknado slashfic posted:

My best friend, for one. Lost about $100 grand in the last year, had a mental breakdown and lost his job, and basically got saved by his parents. He's 42 and never really messed around with gambling before ~2021.

Crossposting since this just came up in tff too, but from what I could work out his was less about the money and more about using the euphoria hits from wins to "self medicate" depression, same as one would use drugs or alcohol.

havelock
Jan 20, 2004

IGNORE ME
Soiled Meat

WhyteRyce posted:

...
Same poo poo about the vaccine mandate. He’s sitting out in solidarity for those that lost their job over it until he didn’t have to anymore

I think it's deeply misguided to doubt vaccines, but I'm not going to overly condemn Black people for distrusting the word of the government - it's understandable, even if it's counter productive here. The CDC is flat out not trustworthy on Covid, but differently from how Kyrie claims.


Lockback posted:

You got that all in just 3 hours?

Far less, actually. I'm just that good.

morestuff posted:

Just because someone overlaps with your politics doesn’t mean they can’t be a dumb piece of poo poo, it’s sometimes a hard lesson to learn

I said I thought he might be reachable, not that he wasn't dumb or that any of the stuff he's dug in on is commendable.

havelock fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Mar 9, 2023

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:



I choose to believe Steve's taking Ja on a month-long detox camping and fishing trip in NZ.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop

kingcobweb posted:

They run these ads like “lightning bets, bet NOW on the NEXT PLAY (if you have a problem with gambling please call…)”

If you are doing repeatedly lightning bets on the next play of the game you absolutely have a gambling problem almost by definition

Not to get too heavy in the NBA thread but gambling addiction has around a 20% suicide rate. I don’t judge anyone who gambles for fun, I look at odds sometimes, when I worked in Vegas for half a year I placed a bet just to be able to chill and watch a regular season game and get the “free” drink that came with it. But with the huuuuuuge mainstream-ization of sports betting just in the last year, we don’t know what effect in the numbers that will have on gambling addiction-related things. I’m worried!!

It’s beyond evil to unleash this on a desperate country

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction

Rick posted:

I had fun penny betting for a while and was pretty drat good at it, but, I am sure it's like poker where I'm a Legendary rated poker player in Puzzle Pirates but in a casino I just end up losing all my money on blinds.

If anything in person is significantly easier because you have more time to think through your decisions.

EDIT
I somehow missed "Puzzle Pirates"

The order of difficulty from easiest to hardest will be:

Beating the AI in a no-stakes game. -> beating randos in a no stakes game. -> beating your friends in a no stakes game. -> beating randos for money in person. -> beating randos for money online. -> beating very good friends for money in person (but, presumably, they would have the same problem)

An exception to online being a bit harder is, if you can determine someone is multi-tabling, they might as well be a pinata filled with money.

Veryslightlymad fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Mar 9, 2023

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
Strong recommendation for "Owning Mahowny" for anyone who wants to see Philip Seymour Hoffman deliver a pretty brilliant portrayal of the gambling addict's mindset. The trailers kinda bill it as some quirky suspense movie, and I guess it's got some of that, but it's primarily a character study

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

rivetz posted:

Strong recommendation for "Owning Mahowny" for anyone who wants to see Philip Seymour Hoffman deliver a pretty brilliant portrayal of the gambling addict's mindset. The trailers kinda bill it as some quirky suspense movie, and I guess it's got some of that, but it's primarily a character study

Where can you see it? The only place I can find that has it is Amazon Prime but “it’s not available in your location” according to them.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Veryslightlymad posted:

If anything in person is significantly easier because you have more time to think through your decisions.

EDIT
I somehow missed "Puzzle Pirates"

The order of difficulty from easiest to hardest will be:

Beating the AI in a no-stakes game. -> beating randos in a no stakes game. -> beating your friends in a no stakes game. -> beating randos for money in person. -> beating randos for money online. -> beating very good friends for money in person (but, presumably, they would have the same problem)

An exception to online being a bit harder is, if you can determine someone is multi-tabling, they might as well be a pinata filled with money.

This makes sense to me. I' don't even love playing for fake money that much, it just used to be a very social thing once upon a time before people basically used it to fund their wars and had to take it deathly serious.

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1633979026078310401

if it's 3 weeks, he's back in time for either 5 or 6 games

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007

Dejan Bimble posted:

It’s beyond evil to unleash this on a desperate country

:amen:

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Aye Doc posted:

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1633979026078310401

if it's 3 weeks, he's back in time for either 5 or 6 games

https://twitter.com/DougHaller/status/1633986184061018115

3 weeks.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA/status/1633980209270489089

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
New strategy.

Bismack Billabongo
Oct 9, 2012

New Love Glow
Slippery Spots and Achy Ankles: NBA March

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
Get the X Files out here this is some spectre or phantasm poo poo

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

verbal enema posted:

Get the X Files out here this is some spectre or phantasm poo poo

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1633921530089607169?s=20

https://twitter.com/Pacers/status/1633990963491217409?s=20

ajkalan
Aug 17, 2011

verbal enema posted:

Get the X Files out here this is some spectre or phantasm poo poo

The injury RNG broke

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

never thought I’d see lockback defend the xcom rng truly a sad day

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Chronicles
Oct 24, 2013

Tired: Ref conspiracy theory
Wired: Towel boy conspiracy theory

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