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If you have any sort of PC webcam, OpenTrack's relatively new NeuralNet tracker option works just as well as the phone-based solutions and is way more convenient.
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:I got myself a new PC after the Ship of Theseus known as my old one just became a bit too long in the tooth. So I'm rocking an i7 13700, 4070ti and 64gb ram. I still have my old (but totally decent) 24" 1080p monitor and TrackIR. Don't get midrange curved monitors, they're mostly VA panels that have noticeable dark-level smearing. Unless you mean a 3440x1440 ultrawide, in which case there aren't many affordable alternatives to VA. If you want to get a normal 16:9 1440p monitor, I'd just get an IPS. They're fairly cheap these days: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Vbmiiprx-Zero-Frame-Agile-Splendor-Overclock/dp/B09R26XXFW/ VR on MSFS is really cool, but honestly if you do any other gaming then I'd just get the new monitor.
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I can definitely see the allure of flying on a monitor still, however ultrawide is a must. After ultrawiding it for years, I don't understand why any sane person would move to a widescreen. Even more so with flight sims where horizontal vision gives the sensation of flight.
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Squiggle posted:Opentrack is no more complicated than Track IR. That's great. My comment was less an observation on opentrack than it was about the deeply subconscious link my brain has built between "open" and more loving work for me.
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the milk machine posted:i've been flying the aerosoft Twin Otter around quite a bit, it's very fun. turboprops ftw The Twotter was one of my favorite planes in P3D. I haven't gotten it for MSFS yet, but I will seeing it's only 26€.
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DCS seems like it’s actually getting hyper threading today. 
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Vahakyla posted:I can definitely see the allure of flying on a monitor still, however ultrawide is a must. After ultrawiding it for years, I don't understand why any sane person would move to a widescreen. Even more so with flight sims where horizontal vision gives the sensation of flight. Well a big 4K TV is like an ultra wide that’s also extra tall!
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That Works posted:DCS seems like it’s actually getting hyper threading today. Anyone try this out yet? I'm currently updating and contemplating if I want to really hook all my gear up.
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JayKay posted:Anyone try this out yet? I'm currently updating and contemplating if I want to really hook all my gear up. Is good, most people are seeing significant increases.
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JayKay posted:Anyone try this out yet? I'm currently updating and contemplating if I want to really hook all my gear up. 5-7 fps increase in VR for me, shorter load times and less fluctuations in fps overall. I had a well performing system before the update. People with more marginal systems are saying its a huge improvement. Rare big win for DCS imo
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JayKay posted:Anyone try this out yet? I'm currently updating and contemplating if I want to really hook all my gear up.  
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Alright, hooking up my flight sim gear and turning on Maverick for background noise.
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That Works posted:5-7 fps increase in VR for me, shorter load times and less fluctuations in fps overall. I had a well performing system before the update. People with more marginal systems are saying its a huge improvement. Rare big win for DCS imo *Long, suffering sigh* Just when I think I'm out, they pull me right back in
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Late to the chat but as someone who uses 3 curved monitors and Eye-Finity, I would probably rather go that route where you can muscle the three into an ultra wide and then not have the hassle of yet another accessory. I mean, I WANT VR but its application is limited and unnecessary. Also it’s the only way to make a real sim-pit with a full F-18 center console from winwing!! dialhforhero fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Mar 13, 2023 |
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VR is really great, and I think if VR companies are serious, they need to demo it to people, because I just can't go back. That's not to say it can't be significantly improved, but it's such a big difference over any fixed displays. It's better than the six-figures ALSIM with three projectors at work.
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yeah for some very specific things I can't do it any other way than in VR any more. Racing sims and flight sims are it.
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Carth Dookie posted:yeah for some very specific things I can't do it any other way than in VR any more. Racing sims and flight sims are it. Yeah, I can say I was enthusiastic about it because I obviously bought a VR headset to begin with, but it wildly exceeded my expectations in terms of what a difference it makes.
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PT6A posted:Yeah, I can say I was enthusiastic about it because I obviously bought a VR headset to begin with, but it wildly exceeded my expectations in terms of what a difference it makes. I was deeply suspicious of it and avoided it for years because I wanted all the early generation bugs to be mostly worked out and didn't want to pay out the rear end for a PC able to handle it. I also had severe doubts about my ability to even use it without getting sick. I gave in about a year ago. Made my iRacing and IL2 playing revolutionary. I can't go back.
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Carth Dookie posted:I gave in about a year ago. Made my iRacing and IL2 playing revolutionary. I can't go back. In addition to the obvious advantages, the VR headset is the first technology that's made me feel properly disoriented going in and out of IMC. I think as a training tool, its utility can't be overstated. I don't know it's better than a fully-enclosed full motion sim, but I can say it's better than the average half-assed Flight Training Device.
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Is there a specific setup that is recommended? Once I start getting into app stores and platforms and beacons and tethers and mounts and batteries and I close the tab and say I'll come back to it. If it's really that good I'll bite, but I've been burned by heavy headsets and terrible resolution so many times. I want to believe. FunOne fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Reverb G2 is the standard for simming. High resolution and no need for base stations. Only one thing’s better: Varjo. The price on that is insane.
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Only problem with the G2 is that it’s effectively abandon ware, not sure if they are still producing units but Microsoft has laid off most of their mixed reality employees
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Brownie posted:Only problem with the G2 is that it’s effectively abandon ware, not sure if they are still producing units but Microsoft has laid off most of their mixed reality employees decoupling from their stupid rear end mixed reality thing might be a blessing. the one thing I hate about VR right now is that each company is trying to carve out its own niche with the integration/web store/exclusivity bullshit. The sooner all that goes out the better. A VR headset is a peripheral. Interfacing should be to a unified standard. Why does every company have to drag us through yet another variation of the betamax trail of tears. Carth Dookie fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Yeah... like I fully expect Apple's VR headset to be amazing hardware, but totally unusable for sim stuff because it'll be locked into a proprietary "vrOS" walled garden. The Meta Oculus products do work reasonably well for me as a "generic display device." They do push you to set up a Meta account on install, but after that you can basically ignore their "portal" software and just use it with any old PC VR app. That said, I think I'm done with Oculus hardware, after owning a Rift and Rift S for years, and having set up a Quest 2 for someone else (works the same way, only the link cable seems really flaky and drops connection all the time). Very few manufacturers seem to be pushing for the higher resolutions that you need to make flight sim panels look good. I'm looking at a Pimax next, unless something else amazing comes out soon. CaptainEO fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Brownie posted:Only problem with the G2 is that it’s effectively abandon ware, not sure if they are still producing units but Microsoft has laid off most of their mixed reality employees Lol, I didn’t know this. It does feel like there’s a true hell horizon with this stuff where there really isn’t any single platform that isn’t so proprietary it doesn’t end up with some kind of problem down the line? Especially since it seems like the current trend for VR is “try something, gently caress up, sell it to someone else/spike it, try it again.”
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eh. I don't know how bad the 'abandonware' problem is. Most of the time I'm running Steam VR at the same time as windows mixed reality and its steam VR doing most of the heavy lifting. WMR doesn't actually DO anything except a handful of setup features. All the other storefront/3d model area you can entirely ignore. I could see it just getting pared back to what are effectively hardware drivers and an applet for the other functions you'd want to control. Or I could just be a G2 owner in massive denial. Maybe the G2 is the latest zune or windows phone. 
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I have a G2 and play DCS, BMS and IL2 and very rarely MSFS. Highly recommend it especially given the sale price it hits often at $300. It can be fussy with cables and the older firmware and such was much more unstable but now it’s been great for the last 9 month or so without any issues. WMR largely seems to exist just to pass off the interface to another program so I’m less concerned about that myself given i don’t use the program for anything.
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That Works posted:5-7 fps increase in VR for me, shorter load times and less fluctuations in fps overall. I had a well performing system before the update. People with more marginal systems are saying its a huge improvement. Rare big win for DCS imo I went from kinda poo poo performance on the ground and good performance in the air to good performance everywhere. Only downside for me so far is I can't seem to launch it with Virtual Desktop, it just crashes when I try. Works ok with AirLink but Airlinks performance is generally worse than VD.
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kemikalkadet posted:I went from kinda poo poo performance on the ground and good performance in the air to good performance everywhere. Only downside for me so far is I can't seem to launch it with Virtual Desktop, it just crashes when I try. Works ok with AirLink but Airlinks performance is generally worse than VD. Somebody told me that MT DCS only supports openxr, which Virtual Desktop doesn't support.
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I don’t think calling Reverb G2 ”abandonware” is in any way a realistic way to portray it. You get support and patches.
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Vahakyla posted:I don’t think calling Reverb G2 ”abandonware” is in any way a realistic way to portray it. You get support and patches. I guess I'm curious about who would be responsible for this if Microsoft laid off the entire WMR team. Maybe they'll just shift the responsibility of making sure it doesn't break with updates to some other division in the company.
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Brownie posted:I guess I'm curious about who would be responsible for this if Microsoft laid off the entire WMR team. Maybe they'll just shift the responsibility of making sure it doesn't break with updates to some other division in the company. Who is responsible for the Playstation 5 if Sony lays out the crew? I'm not trying to be a doodoohead here. It's a pretty open ended question. HP itself has probably vested interest in maintaining support. As does Steam, I imagine. And microsoft itself. There's no good reason to think a large number of VR headsets will just all of a sudden be abandoned. Windows Mixed Reality commands an impressive marketshare of augmented reality. It isn't going to just vanish overnight for some weird reason.
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There's a new VTOL VR jet coming soon that's a two seat trainer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj10QEm_JTQ https://store.steampowered.com/app/2141700/VTOL_VR_T55_Tyro__Trainer_Jet/ Steam Description posted:The T-55 Tyro is a two seat, single engine, supersonic jet aircraft built to serve primarily as a trainer. It is capable of equipping all types of weapons and sensors, so it can be used to train all kinds of scenarios, and even be used for combat.
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Okay you guys sold me on VR, especially because my wife has offered to buy me one for my birthday. G2 is only $630 CDN from HP and that seems like by far the best deal for simming - agreed? I refuse to support Meta anything and the rest are way the gently caress up there in price.
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I haven’t done a real thorough look but I think that’s true. Everything I’ve heard is that the G2 is still the king in “value” in that it’s pretty good and not a billion dollars.
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:Okay you guys sold me on VR, especially because my wife has offered to buy me one for my birthday. G2 is only $630 CDN from HP and that seems like by far the best deal for simming - agreed? I refuse to support Meta anything and the rest are way the gently caress up there in price. For conversion rate, that seems decent. You can snag G2s routinely for about 350usd in the United States, but the shipping will get you to that price range anyway. I've used various headsets, Dell Visor, Odyssey, Odyssey Plus, and Reverb G2. The G2 stands as the supreme headset with clarity and value, par none.
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I don't know if it's a widespread issue but I bought a G2 and the rails that hold the headphones have a very flaky connection that failed quite quickly on me.
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:Okay you guys sold me on VR, especially because my wife has offered to buy me one for my birthday. G2 is only $630 CDN from HP and that seems like by far the best deal for simming - agreed? I refuse to support Meta anything and the rest are way the gently caress up there in price. Yeah if you refuse to get a quest, G2 from somebody on sale is absolutely the way you want to go. Should be doable for under $400 USD, no idea what that is in Canada though.
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