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You know who was responsible for something like what, seven million German deaths and the loss of huge chunks of German territory? That's right. They should be mad at that guy.
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Vee are all trying to find die guy who did zis!
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Oh. No I mean they know for sure. I would imagine that with the amounts of missiles spent they could have destroyed ten downtown blocks of each of those five towns and captured them faster than they have been able so far. But for some reason they prefer to shoot at energy infra.
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:No I mean they know for sure. I would imagine that with the amounts of missiles spent they could have destroyed ten downtown blocks of each of those five towns and captured them faster than they have been able so far. But for some reason they prefer to shoot at energy infra. Did you not read anything? Targeting civilian infrastructure is next to useless. The most useful thing to do with those missiles is target high value military targets and wipe them off them map like Ukraine is doing.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:but the Dresden bombing was the worst war crime of WW2 uhhhhhhhhh what
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McNally posted:uhhhhhhhhh Theyre talking about what nazis think Duzzy Funlop posted:There's a bunch of German Neonazis that are currently spinning like a cat with a buttered-toast strapped to its back at your post.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Theyre talking about what nazis think Ah. Time to go to bed lol
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McNally posted:Ah. Jah, schlaf schön, Bussibär <3 ( ˘ ³˘)♥
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lightpole posted:Did you not read anything? Targeting civilian infrastructure is next to useless. The most useful thing to do with those missiles is target high value military targets and wipe them off them map like Ukraine is doing. Even more to the point, a block of demolished civilian buildings is actually a really good defensive position, better than the intact buildings in fact. Everything you do is camouflaged by being part of a big pile of rubble, but you can set up observation posts, machine gun nests, and firing positions with literally tons of concrete protecting them for almost free. If you have a little time and some resources those posts can have secure, covered communications approaches, hardwired comms, and reinforced spaces to keep a strong infantry force safe under hellacious fire.
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mllaneza posted:Even more to the point, a block of demolished civilian buildings is actually a really good defensive position, better than the intact buildings in fact. Everything you do is camouflaged by being part of a big pile of rubble, but you can set up observation posts, machine gun nests, and firing positions with literally tons of concrete protecting them for almost free. If you have a little time and some resources those posts can have secure, covered communications approaches, hardwired comms, and reinforced spaces to keep a strong infantry force safe under hellacious fire. I'm going to steal this observation for the book I'm writing, thanks.
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:No I mean they know for sure. I would imagine that with the amounts of missiles spent they could have destroyed ten downtown blocks of each of those five towns and captured them faster than they have been able so far. But for some reason they prefer to shoot at energy infra.
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:No I mean they know for sure. I would imagine that with the amounts of missiles spent they could have destroyed ten downtown blocks of each of those five towns and captured them faster than they have been able so far. But for some reason they prefer to shoot at energy infra. 200 cruise and short range ballistic missiles still really isn't a lot of combined damage. The one that hit the train station in Krematorsk did minimal structural damage and only killed as many people as it did because they unfortunately were densely concentrated.
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mllaneza posted:Even more to the point, a block of demolished civilian buildings is actually a really good defensive position, better than the intact buildings in fact. Everything you do is camouflaged by being part of a big pile of rubble, but you can set up observation posts, machine gun nests, and firing positions with literally tons of concrete protecting them for almost free. If you have a little time and some resources those posts can have secure, covered communications approaches, hardwired comms, and reinforced spaces to keep a strong infantry force safe under hellacious fire. See Caen, supposed to be taken on D-Day +1 if I remember correctly. Took them months to clear it.
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I once read a book on Japan in WW2 that claimed that they weren't going to capitulate after the atomic bomb attacks, on the basis that the previous firebombings had actually destroyed much more and killed more people, and it took the emperor finally piping up and telling them to surrender.
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psydude posted:200 cruise and short range ballistic missiles still really isn't a lot of combined damage. The one that hit the train station in Krematorsk did minimal structural damage and only killed as many people as it did because they unfortunately were densely concentrated. It was a cluster munition as well - so was anti-personnel. They knew what they were doing.
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Hyperlynx posted:I once read a book on Japan in WW2 that claimed that they weren't going to capitulate after the atomic bomb attacks, on the basis that the previous firebombings had actually destroyed much more and killed more people, and it took the emperor finally piping up and telling them to surrender. The Japanese ruling class was fully prepared to march columns of five year old children armed with sharp sticks and grenades against prepared allied positions. They had so poisoned themselves with fake bushido that it took a command from their god emperor to not commit national suicide. Even then some of them attempted to stage a coup to prevent the surrender order from going out.
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mllaneza posted:Even more to the point, a block of demolished civilian buildings is actually a really good defensive position, better than the intact buildings in fact. Everything you do is camouflaged by being part of a big pile of rubble, but you can set up observation posts, machine gun nests, and firing positions with literally tons of concrete protecting them for almost free. If you have a little time and some resources those posts can have secure, covered communications approaches, hardwired comms, and reinforced spaces to keep a strong infantry force safe under hellacious fire. What to do? A. Conserve my missiles for high value military targets and then hit them. No I can't. B. Use my missiles to support frontal assaults of my priority front line goals. No my mobik wagners do not deserve support. C. Hit energy infra in deep behind the lines to further terrorize the civilian population. Hell Yeah! Also, I could definitely take 200 cruise and short range ballistic missiles to my defensive positions and die, no biggie. twitter.com/Seveerity/status/1633783972202201089?s=20 Turrurrurrurrrrrrr fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Mar 10, 2023 |
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It ain't real graphic but you can make out dudes dragging a body out of the rubble in the vid, might wanna spoiler and warn others for it.
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https://twitter.com/PMSimferopol/status/1634111915596173312 I hope the Georgians tell them to go gently caress themselves.
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Rude Dude With Tude posted:https://twitter.com/PMSimferopol/status/1634111915596173312 Jesus that's basically one breath away from full mask-off.
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Tomn posted:Jesus that's basically one breath away from full mask-off.
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Country with 2 Russia-carved separatist tumors shouldn't really be surprised that the Russian government is doing everything it can to stack the deck for a Russia-minded government that down the line OK's joining the Russian federation as a subject.
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Burt posted:See Caen, supposed to be taken on D-Day +1 if I remember correctly. Took them months to clear it. Also Monte Cassino.
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Vahakyla posted:Kris was a chopper pilot and a captain. He's dunked on Toby Keith's "military"-poo poo before, too. Toby Keith is the posterchild for cosplaytriots. I don't remember who exposed me to that term, but thank you so much.
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Rude Dude With Tude posted:https://twitter.com/PMSimferopol/status/1634111915596173312 Holy poo poo that's vile.
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I was in Georgia when the Russians blew up the only gas pipeline in the mid 00's. It was February I think and loving cold. We should probably give Georgia a poo poo load of Stingers and Javelins too
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knox_harrington posted:I was in Georgia when the Russians blew up the only gas pipeline in the mid 00's. It was February I think and loving cold. We definitely should. Georgia is next in the laundry list, right after Ukraine and Moldova. And since Ukraine they are going to lose and Moldova won't happen without Ukraine, that's probably where the tsar will try some endgame next.
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Infidelicious posted:With what army though. I was thinking the same thing. Russia can barely "manage" the current invasion, no way they can pull off a second one at the same time.
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They CAN indiscriminately lob munitions over the border though. Won't achieve much except ruining peoples lives, but whens that stopped them?
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Infidelicious posted:With what army though. Steven seagal is still in reserve
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OctaMurk posted:Steven seagal is still in reserve Edward Snowden's a seasoned veteran as well.
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ASAPI posted:I was thinking the same thing. Russia can barely "manage" the current invasion, no way they can pull off a second one at the same time. Here are my two cents on this: The problem with Russia is that they will not run out of manpower. They also most likely won't run out of 50's and 60's gear they were unable to sell away when the USSR collapsed, so if they manage to lose Ukrainian war without any immediate collapse, they can almost immediately start to prepare for another war somewhere where they aren't bordering EU countries. Tsar would badly need a win, so they pick something more or less landlocked in the Inner Asia. Georgia and the smaller *stans in the Inner Asia are poor, and low population compared to Ukraine. Their main benefactor who is not Russia would also be China, who while being very pissed of that Russia is messing up with their road and belt-investments, would not get openly involved on Russia reclaiming its imagined "Sphere of influence" as it would be directly against their rhetoric about killing the autonomy in Hong Kong, and in general, Taiwan. Its going to be North Korea-style army that does the next invasion, but unlike North Korea the Putin's Russia isn't contained to the same degree by being bordered everywhere by richer and/or larger neighbors.
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Luka will continue tap dancing somehow and keep it juuuust over the horizon. Until their partisans slow blowing up rails again.
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Der Kyhe posted:Its going to be North Korea-style army that does the next invasion, but unlike North Korea the Putin's Russia isn't contained to the same degree by being bordered everywhere by richer and/or larger neighbors. I'd honestly expect North Korea to have a better trained, equiped and motivated army these days.
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GD_American posted:I can think of one instance, but that was technically two bombings 3 days apart. There's an argument to be made that particular instance of terror bombing didn't necessarily work either: https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/ All indications point to Japan already being in negotiations to surrender to the ussr prior to the bombs. Having already broken their codes, it seems that the US was likely already aware of this fact, and there's speculation that the atomic bombs were used more to dictate terms than forcing an unconditional surrender: https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-the-us-really-bombed-hiroshima/tnamp/ And all that is heavily caveated by the fact I don't personally know for certain one way or the other, and we may never know for certain. The only thing I've learned over time is that poo poo is way more complicated than the jingoistic narrative I was fed in school, and these are interesting data points which seem to have been entirely disregarded in our curriculum.
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