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RatHat posted:There’s way less unique weapon models this time though, it’s pretty disappointing. Just being able to change your armor is nice I guess Is this part of a series?
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Khanstant posted:Is this part of a series? they're probably comparing it to nioh/nioh2, this is basically a spiritual successor. personally i hope they continue the games with this combat system because i'm having so much more fun in wo long than I ever had in Nioh.
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Mar 11, 2023 00:53
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Nioh's reception always read to me as "skip unless you really need more of this kind of fighting right now." I was also ready to write this game off as Darksouls-at-home before I got hooked. I'm enjoying Wo Long quite a bit, despite some flaws.
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Mar 11, 2023 01:09
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One of the biggest quibbles for me is they need to make interacting with your storehouse way more intuitive and afireworks(like, just make it an option on the Battle Preparation menu or something), as well as auto-restocking consumables like ammo, knives, and firepots. A way to customize Martial Arts on your weapons would be really nice, too, even if it's just swapping them around like Ashes of War in Elden Ring.
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Mar 11, 2023 01:16
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i'd have a hard time calling wo long My Favorite Game Ever, but i'm way more than happy with how good the combat feels to me and how well it weaves it all together as a complete package to the point where i'm plenty fine with just having it be a solid as hell game even if it's not something i consider a 12/10 masterpiece for the ages that i want everyone else to try or some poo poo
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Mar 11, 2023 01:17
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Nioh was also not at that level until it got all its DLCs so I'm willing to give this some more time to marinate. As usual their boss design is good and the gameplay is great, still weird that there's no way to 1v1 pvp people but that might come later.
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Mar 11, 2023 01:20
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hope the dlc is more like Nioh’s and less like SoP’s
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Wamsutta posted:I’m level 34 and I can’t do jack poo poo in this level 27 fallen eunuch level. I got to Baishe and died immediately. I guess I went there too early. So then I figured I’ll try clear the level. Well I have tried ten times to beat the main red icon mermaid siren thing in the poison and I’m just getting ruined. They’re so hard to deflect and do so much damage. This level is the first time I’ve reached a boiling point with this game. Shutting it off for the day. I am a panic roller and it’s ingrained in my DNA and it’s how I beat Fromsoft games basically (that and magic cheese) and it doesn’t work here and I’m insanely frustrated. I just finished the stage you’re doing now. Baishe was really annoying to me for some reason. I found her grab really hard to block and I was never sure how to close in. She was probably the most annoying boss I’ve fought so far, if not the hardest. The mermaids are a huge pain too, since they have weird timings, long reach and back away constantly. The second half of the stage has some tough enemies, but they’re a lot more fun to fight. Right after you finish baishe, you’ll start finding primarily earth scaling twin sabers, which seems to be the fastest weapon type in the game. I feel like armor makes a big difference. You do need to upgrade it though. Your +2 weapon is a little behind the curve, so if your armor is not upgraded you’ll be really feeling the hits. You should be able wear some pretty heavy armor at 25 earth and stay at green agility, and that offers a lot of protection. Are you using imposing slab? Even with minimal investment in spell stats, that seems to kick rear end.
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Mar 11, 2023 02:30
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Wamsutta posted:Well I have tried ten times to beat the main red icon mermaid siren thing in the poison and I’m just getting ruined. They’re so hard to deflect and do so much damage. This level is the first time I’ve reached a boiling point with this game. Shutting it off for the day. I am a panic roller and it’s ingrained in my DNA and it’s how I beat Fromsoft games basically (that and magic cheese) and it doesn’t work here and I’m insanely frustrated. In addition to other advice (an ambush helps a ton), mermaids typically melt under sustained pressure. Try to back them into a wall, then keep the wall perpendicular to you/them. They almost always evade backwards with no lateral movement, so the wall traps them. Also yes, taking a break is the right call. By this point I've generally got a grasp on every enemy type, but on occasion I mistime my evades just enough to get hit. I guess it's the videogame version of the yips? Either way, brute forcing doesn't work; best to leave and come back later.
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if you aren't particularly married to any specific character concept, remember that respeccing is completely, 100% free and can be done as many times as you'd like, so shifting gears to a build more suited to dealing with enemies you're having trouble with in a mission (e.g. pure Wood for lightning spells so you can take care of mermaids more easily) can be something to try
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Mar 11, 2023 02:52
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Khanstant posted:You can glamour any armor for free so you can always look how you want going into a level at least. The absolute worst part of this game as far as I'm concerned is that it doesn't show you what the armor will look like on your character until you transmogrify it. Or at least that I'm aware of.
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Darth Nat posted:The absolute worst part of this game as far as I'm concerned is that it doesn't show you what the armor will look like on your character until you transmogrify it. Or at least that I'm aware of. yeah it sucks, and i hope the DLC makes it like nioh 2 where you can spend time messing around with your outfit in a separate UI instead of the extremely clunky blacksmith method i admittedly don't have a ton of outfits to cycle through, anyways, since 90% of the armor in the game makes you look like you're wearing a cartoon barrel, something that, while entirely period appropriate, doesn't vibe with my aesthetics much
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Darth Nat posted:The absolute worst part of this game as far as I'm concerned is that it doesn't show you what the armor will look like on your character until you transmogrify it. Or at least that I'm aware of. haha yeah especially since you need to undo it to try something else. ideally you'd just glamour yourself and look like that until you turn it off or switch it up.
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this is just supposed to be a friendly sparring match you assholes why are there 3 of you
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Darth Nat posted:The absolute worst part of this game as far as I'm concerned is that it doesn't show you what the armor will look like on your character until you transmogrify it. Or at least that I'm aware of. I don't think it's exactly a damning issue, but it's weird how much of a step back the UI stuff is compared to nioh 2. the absence of an abstract world map with all the mission selection and character/item features in one place, as well as surplus items not automatically replenishing from storage is much worse.
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:I don't think it's exactly a damning issue, but it's weird how much of a step back the UI stuff is compared to nioh 2. the absence of an abstract world map with all the mission selection and character/item features in one place, as well as surplus items not automatically replenishing from storage is much worse. it's strange, especially since, as far as i can tell, this is still the nioh 2 engine under the hood. maybe they were worried about map clutter?
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Vermain posted:it's strange, especially since, as far as i can tell, this is still the nioh 2 engine under the hood. maybe they were worried about map clutter? Another weird UI backward step is that you can't compare currently equipment to the current selection. They had that back in Nioh 1.
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wo long continuing in nioh's footsteps of running three to six hours too long i'm at the point now where i'm able to carve my way through everything without much effort so now it feels like pulling weeds the side mission where you spar with hong jing was great though, especially when their second phase kicked in
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Vermain posted:if you aren't particularly married to any specific character concept, remember that respeccing is completely, 100% free and can be done as many times as you'd like, so shifting gears to a build more suited to dealing with enemies you're having trouble with in a mission (e.g. pure Wood for lightning spells so you can take care of mermaids more easily) can be something to try As water they're vulnerable to stone attacks, not lightning. Somehow. Also Jesus Christ Lu Bu on NG+. McTimmy fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Mar 11, 2023 |
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Does NG+ gate levels like Nioh using a percentage complete to unlock the next set of zones or do you have do the main missions again?
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Calidus posted:Does NG+ gate levels like Nioh using a percentage complete to unlock the next set of zones or do you have do the main missions again? Same as before, you just have to do a certain amount of missions to unlock the next one. If you REALLY dont want to fight Lu Bu again you don't have to.
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Ah I was wondering why Zhao Yun got such a showing as the first companion despite barely being in the rest of the game, but apparently he’s basically the mascot of Dynasty warriors?
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mistermojo posted:I guess I could just get good and not get hit so I could keep wearing the warlock outfit Hell yeah warlock mask 4 lyfe https://twitter.com/TND669/status/1634420643423744001?s=20 Also poison prison mid(?) boss:  e: Heithinn Grasida posted:I just finished the stage you’re doing now. Baishe was really annoying to me for some reason. I found her grab really hard to block and I was never sure how to close in. She was probably the most annoying boss I’ve fought so far, if not the hardest. The mermaids are a huge pain too, since they have weird timings, long reach and back away constantly. The second half of the stage has some tough enemies, but they’re a lot more fun to fight. I'm not done with the stage but I just beat snaketits, only took a few tries once I backed off a bit and learned to wait and deflect her tail whips. Also helped a lot that I looked up that Fire counters Metal (poison) so I could hit her stamina pretty hard and clear the pools she throws around the arena. Smack her with a giant spiked mace until she dies IMO. Gay Rat Wedding posted:as well as surplus items not automatically replenishing from storage is much worse. IIRC this was added in Nioh 2 in a patch, I think? Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Mar 11, 2023 |
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there is nothing in the world i love more than deflecting and parrying so i barely had to play the demo to know that this was a game i'd love i'm not that far into the game yet (just got to lü bu) but i'm already considering doing some sort of challenge run similar to what i did in sekiro. multi-bosses might put a spanner in the works for that since at least in sekiro that kind of challenge run involved deflecting perfectly or dying, and i dunno if that's even possible on a boss like zhang rang... how's the thread's opinion on boss footage spoilers? i spent a bunch of time practicing against the aoye to get a clean and nice kill to record, but i don't wanna barge in and post it without checking if we care about spoilers in this thread
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Your Computer posted:how's the thread's opinion on boss footage spoilers? i spent a bunch of time practicing against the aoye to get a clean and nice kill to record, but i don't wanna barge in and post it without checking if we care about spoilers in this thread i don't think anyone's gonna be especially blindsided by which bosses appear in a three kingdoms game, so i say post away
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Your Computer posted:there is nothing in the world i love more than deflecting and parrying so i barely had to play the demo to know that this was a game i'd love deflect or die is just morale 1, so you can level to your heart's content. at morale 20 you do 4x the damage you do at morale 1 so level 1 morale 1 is just masochism and unrealistic IMO (and also bosses are 20 so if youre 1 theyll do 4x damage) Thumbtacks fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Mar 11, 2023 |
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Just realized one of Zhang Liao's power moves is the it's treason, then saber twirl from Revenge of the Sith
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Vermain posted:
Yeah, I really wish there were more outfits that weren't torn to shreds.
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Vermain posted:i don't think anyone's gonna be especially blindsided by which bosses appear in a three kingdoms game, so i say post away well it's not a three kingdoms character per se but ah heck it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvlyc2frowQ i saw a lot of people talking about this boss so i was excited to fight it. after the first boss this was definitely my favorite, which is why i spent the time to get better at the fight (i still messed up and got hit a couple of times tho) sidenote i love this stupid hair 
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it's the naruto-run or light-up sneakers of hair, you can just tell it makes you go faster
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Your Computer posted:well it's not a three kingdoms character per se but ah heck it well played, gamer i actually like aoye quite a bit as a boss, though only as a solo encounter - it's really hard to read its intent if you're running with coop or companions, since so much of its telegraphing is done via its face or the front tentacles
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Your Computer posted:how's the thread's opinion on boss footage spoilers? i spent a bunch of time practicing against the aoye to get a clean and nice kill to record, but i don't wanna barge in and post it without checking if we care about spoilers in this thread For me, the more we talk about the game the better. Spoilers don't exist in a souls like game. Is something I search myself... to me all videogames are Monster Hunter. I study the boss, including youtube videos, equip the best gear and prepare a strategy. The ones I don't kill on the first try, really the difficulty of the bosses in this game jump down and up wildly. The one subsystem I ignore is the element. gently caress trying to match the correct element against the element of a boss like this where pokemon. Your Computer posted:sidenote i love this stupid hair /cap. great work on the boss and having fun with the character design Khanstant posted:Is this part of a series? I miss the kusarigama.  Would also be good to have some tonfas, fist and switchglaive. But for variety sake, I would not take these, except the tonfas if they had the superior defense stat. There where a lot of cool weapons in Nioh 2, the title before this one that recycle a lot of stuff. Tei fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Mar 11, 2023 |
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Suppose this is a good time to post this thing I finally managed after messing with this all week (well and also not having much time to play either). Spells are pretty great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru2Onyqg6cQ I have fun doing this for every boss, but it's funny to see all the people who are zooming through the game even starting well after I did since these take a bunch of attempts, lol.
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Beat the game and now I’ve got the daunting task of finding the dragon vein essences, cicada shells, and pandas that I’ve missed. Because the game doesn’t tell you where the missing ones are I basically have to go level by level with a guide so I don’t miss anything. Replaying older levels is pretty quick with high level gear but this’ll take a while.
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Tei posted:Would also be good to have some tonfas, fist and switchglaive. But for variety sake, I would not take these, except the tonfas if they had the superior defense stat. Game absolutely needs a fists and feet kung fu option and some odd ball weapon like the kusarigama.
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Woooo.. another bosss done. This game sometimes is super satisfying.
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Against enemies you can't stagger I think Jump attack spam is the optimal strat for the Hammer.
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Has anyone encountered any sidequests where it can end in multiple ways, like Nioh 2? There was one sidequest I just finished where the ending felt like a bad ending. I re-played it but couldn't find a way to change things for a bit more clarity it's the side mission where at the end Sun Jiao comes up at the end to take the key item you get, and he's clearly mind controlled cuz he's speaking like a zombie and licking his lips super loudly but I didn't see any way to snap him out of it
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CharlestonJew posted:for a bit more clarity it's the side mission where at the end Sun Jiao comes up at the end to take the key item you get, and he's clearly mind controlled cuz he's speaking like a zombie and licking his lips super loudly but I didn't see any way to snap him out of it I don't think there's any other way to complete it. Also that's the evil Taoist in disguise
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Tei posted:The one subsystem I ignore is the element. gently caress trying to match the correct element against the element of a boss like this where pokemon. Meanwhile, this is the only way I've beaten like half the bosses. I actually think it's a testament to the game that there's so many different approaches to things. WarEternal fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Mar 11, 2023 |
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