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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Lostconfused posted:I think they can lose Bakhmut and still survive. Losing bakhmut after re-enforcing it would be catastrophic I think, politically speaking. But losing it now while minimizing casualties would be fine. Losing a high percentage of the current defenders there would be terrible but probably not damaging in the long run, but a huge wave of like 2-3k surrendering would be terrible optics. Maybe bakhmuts re-enforcements are just a show to give hope to the ones stuck in the city so they can keep fighting till they get killed instead of surrendering.
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Mar 11, 2023 18:52
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bakhmut is not critical. it's just necessary for the russians to take it if they want to proceed, and is highly defensible so it makes sense as a place to make a stand. i've seen footage allegedly from the only road reasonably open right now, though, and it's muddy enough that a guy standing still risks losing his shoe. my guess is that zelensky hopes that he can retake enough of the surrounding area to make it a win instead of a loss in the near term, and that they can keep the russians at a standstill by holding that position. i don't see it working, though - they would have to retake soledar to properly secure the city, and that would be very rough going against an enemy with superior artillery.
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Mar 11, 2023 18:55
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though yeah, he seems to be making himself vulnerable by publicly making himself the face of the battle. that doesn't seem like a very strong political move
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Mar 11, 2023 18:57
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V. Illych L. posted:though yeah, he seems to be making himself vulnerable by publicly making himself the face of the battle. that doesn't seem like a very strong political move bad politicking, but very good acting though
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Mar 11, 2023 18:58
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Ardennes posted:I think the British may have been just the odd ones out using a lever action because I think the French_/Prussians/Austrians/Russians were just black powder bolt action rifles (the Berdan eventually got a cartridge). The US army has its weird trapdoor Springfield but also it was pretty much just a colonial force after the Civil War. The move to bolt action had a lot of reasons to it, people often overestimate the 'tactical' value of certain features compared to their other qualities. Bolt action is super simple and cheap to build, extremely rugged and simple to maintain, lets you integrate a magazine lockout (this was deemed valuable for weird institutional reasons), the lebel was bolt action, it made a deep impression on debut and there's a certain tendency to copy what works instead of wasting time and money on experimenting with different ways to do the same thing. The bigger the scale of production, the less the tactical aspects matter compared to the industrial. Also most troops just suck rear end at shooting and don't benefit from super rapid fire or whatever.
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Mar 11, 2023 18:59
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just leanred where bakhmut was yesterday now i have strong opinioons about the russians taking it
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Mar 11, 2023 18:59
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mawarannahr posted:oh noooo not the innocent WWF i remain extremely confused why labeling organizations not native to your country as foreign agents is supposed to be this huge deathstroke against freedom when the united states has spent the last five years being increasingly psychotic and xenophobic about any political group with even the vaguest connections to the chinese and russian nationals let alone the chinese and russian governments
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Mar 11, 2023 19:12
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double standards are cool and good, actually
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Mar 11, 2023 19:13
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Losing bakhmut after re-enforcing it would be catastrophic I think, politically speaking. But losing it now while minimizing casualties would be fine. Losing a high percentage of the current defenders there would be terrible but probably not damaging in the long run, but a huge wave of like 2-3k surrendering would be terrible optics. I think the optics just look terrible period even if the Russians don’t bag entire brigades, so much has been sent and is being spent that it is hard to frame it well once the battle is lost. Right now, they are still pretending there will be some counter-attack and it’s essentially this entire war in miniature. Eventually, it makes sense you are dumping troops into the mud because it is only way to keep that thread from getting loose.
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Mar 11, 2023 19:30
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it's almost like being completely reliant on foreign aid to the point where you have to wage the war as if it were theater is a kinda bad thing
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Mar 11, 2023 19:34
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bakhmut up bakhmut in let me begin
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Mar 11, 2023 19:36
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZyL4rAr-mk I wanted to post this not because it is such a significant video but when I feel perfectly European academia and their attitudes toward Russia both historically and currently.
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Mar 11, 2023 19:47
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sorry i dont like videos that are just talking heads too similar to podcasts
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Mar 11, 2023 19:56
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rachel maddow is a keen insight on the Ukraine/Russia War
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Mar 11, 2023 19:58
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Weka posted:This could make a decent rom com. They're all on Grindr. All of them. And when someone takes out his phone and notices they abandon war and start suckin' and fuckin'. Peace blooms. Zelensky and Putin are overthrown in a wave of gay love, and the USSR is reestablished and embarks on its sacred task to implement fully automated gay luxury space communism
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Mar 11, 2023 19:59
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Cerebral Bore posted:it's almost like being completely reliant on foreign aid to the point where you have to wage the war as if it were theater is a kinda bad thing Great pick for the job though. Having a former actor as president during a war waged on the international stage is an asset. Lucky coincidence really
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Mar 11, 2023 20:01
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Nonsense posted:rachel maddow is a keen insight on the Ukraine/Russia War this
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Mar 11, 2023 20:03
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Ardennes posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZyL4rAr-mk I have some questions for the guy after he said "pseudo civil war, which was a good theater, but now this was not theater anymore. It was open, conventional, just traditional expansionist war"
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Mar 11, 2023 20:06
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Some Guy TT posted:https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1634334541325164544 I don't remember a bank run in December 2022. Maybe the cops in the metro beat the memory out of me during one of the weekly beatings.
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Mar 11, 2023 20:13
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lmao, that guy did the  because friends weren't condemning Putin enough?
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Mar 11, 2023 20:17
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with unflagging willingness to break with the historic sylvan tradition, the pontiff filled his tankie pamps yet again Pope Francis Says He's Willing To Visit Ukraine And Russia, But 'Both' Or 'Neither' www.rferl.org posted:Pope Francis says he is willing to travel to Ukraine, which is under attack from Russia, but only on the condition that he can also travel to Moscow. "I will go to both places or to neither," the head of the Catholic Church said in an interview with the March 11 edition of Argentinian newspaper La Nacion. War in Ukraine could only be ended through dialogue and concrete peace initiatives, he said. The pontiff, 86, was already considering a trip to the two countries last summer. At that time he also said he would like to visit both Kyiv and Moscow.
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Mar 11, 2023 20:17
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mawarannahr posted:with unflagging willingness to break with the historic sylvan tradition, the pontiff filled his tankie pamps yet again He's right
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Mar 11, 2023 20:24
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So the first few minutes I'm getting the impression that they have a very "liberal" view of the war. IT's all narratives and performative displays, they can't even imagine a real person choosing to fight or them having real reasons for going to war.
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Mar 11, 2023 20:27
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tazjin posted:I don't remember a bank run in December 2022. Maybe the cops in the metro beat the memory out of me during one of the weekly beatings. Maybe their brains got a bit scrambled and was talking about March 2022 when people were freaking out (and I don’t think any major bank actually failed. Lostconfused posted:So the first few minutes I'm getting the impression that they have a very "liberal" view of the war. They can’t believe the polling either, people must be too terrified what they really think. There is going to be zero introspection after this war is over. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 20:33 on Mar 11, 2023 |
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Mar 11, 2023 20:30
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Wonder if Poland expects this war to last long enough for them to get their new toys. https://twitter.com/d_foubert/status/1626588911685484547 https://twitter.com/albafella1/status/1634635318392418304
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Mar 11, 2023 20:57
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I don't think losing Bakhmut will be a problem for the narrative, it'll just be spun as a necessary delaying action and the dog men will lap that poo poo up.Frosted Flake posted:I keep hearing 10 gauge is making a comeback because you can't use lead shot in wetlands anymore but yeah, it's a motherfucker. Until now I'd never thought about how much lead they must have introduced into the water table by blasting away with cannon, and that's beside the poison bait they used too. Is this because steel shot is lighter, so less recoil? Cerebral Bore posted:right, all that makes sense I think also the even distribution of those contact surfaces helps.
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Mar 11, 2023 21:14
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Weka posted:Is this because steel shot is lighter, so less recoil? less density so the pellets don't go as far kinda why tungsten or bismuth shot also exist but is way expensive
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Mar 11, 2023 21:34
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Nix Panicus posted:Great pick for the job though. Having a former actor as president during a war waged on the international stage is an asset. Lucky coincidence really January 6 Survivor posted:less density so the pellets don't go as far, kinda why tungsten or bismuth shot also exist but is way expensive Yeah, and people say it doesn't pattern as well. As a tradeoff for not putting lead in the water or killing whole flocks of birds, I don't mind. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 21:44 on Mar 11, 2023 |
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Mar 11, 2023 21:40
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Weka posted:I don't think losing Bakhmut will be a problem for the narrative, it'll just be spun as a necessary delaying action and the dog men will lap that poo poo up. Granted, the NAFO types don’t care either way and will switch flag icons as needed. I think the bigger issue is the Ukrainian public that sacrificed quite a bit for that town.
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Mar 11, 2023 21:42
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Ardennes posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZyL4rAr-mk You know, I'm actually incredibly mad from watching this video. loving liberals.
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Mar 11, 2023 21:45
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narrative will be strong until there are videos of helicopters evacuating Kiev.
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Mar 11, 2023 21:46
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Lostconfused posted:I think they can lose Bakhmut and still survive. Once Steiner attacks everything will be alright.
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Mar 11, 2023 21:51
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Lostconfused posted:Wonder if Poland expects this war to last long enough for them to get their new toys. imagine thinking Russia wants anything to do with your cursed people once was enough
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Mar 11, 2023 21:51
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kurwa!!
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Mar 11, 2023 21:59
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I don't really get Poland's whole deal in all of this. All they got out of the EU was their people being synonymous with handymen and cleaners throughout Europe instead of the engineers and scientists of the PRL.
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Mar 11, 2023 22:00
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Vulin posted:https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1634472741326802944 https://twitter.com/marine6254/status/1634484502272806912?s=19 Lol They're hosed
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Mar 11, 2023 22:03
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Some Guy TT posted:https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1634334541325164544 lol
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Mar 11, 2023 22:17
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Punkin Spunkin posted:https://twitter.com/marine6254/status/1634474913716408323?s=19 all posters are braver than the US marines
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Mar 11, 2023 22:18
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Punkin Spunkin posted:https://twitter.com/marine6254/status/1634474913716408323?s=19 theyre all gonna die arent they
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Mar 11, 2023 22:21
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Punkin Spunkin posted:https://twitter.com/marine6254/status/1634474913716408323?s=19 This guy is my hero
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