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JugbandDude
Jul 19, 2016

Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun

Shine on you crazy diamond!
Careful, lest he pulls forum date rank on you

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Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CriminalPastEquine-mobile.mp4

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

colonelwest posted:

Reddit is in an uproar, the sexy cocaine bear blue balls are reaching critical levels.







But my question is why does anyone even care. They’ve sat through years of nothing, what’s a few more days for a patch that barely adds anything to the game?


quote:



There was an old woman who swallowed a fly
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - perhaps she'll die!


There was an old woman who swallowed a spider,
That wriggled and wiggled and tiggled inside her;
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!


There was an old woman who swallowed a bird;
How absurd to swallow a bird.
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider,
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!


There was an old woman who swallowed a cat;
Fancy that to swallow a cat!
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider,
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!


There was an old woman that swallowed a dog;
What a hog, to swallow a dog;
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider,
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!


There was an old woman who swallowed a cow,
I don't know how she swallowed a cow;
She swallowed the cow to catch the dog,
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider,
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!


There was an old lady who swallowed a horse...
She's dead now, of course!

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She could have just waited a day to let the fly die of natural causes! Simplest is generally the best. Patience has it's own rewards.

AutismVaccine
Feb 26, 2017


SPECIAL NEEDS
SQUAD

Imo we shouldnt forget that SA itself is also a bubble, real world isnt as progressive or caring about certain topics.

The whole gender thing is just hosed in real life application. Last month i filled out somekind of tax form for my local council. My gender options were: male female trans inter open and other. Like wtf is going on, why even ask about it then? Just get rid of it.


In summary: Star Citizen is hosed.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

gently caress off.

TasogareNoKagi
Jul 11, 2013

https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/1634641536481738754?s=20

Why would Ben post catte tax? Unless ...

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

LividLiquid posted:

gently caress off.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018





Btw it’s really the fault of the entitled Karens who uhmm (checks notes)… demanded that CIG release a patch that was 3 months late, should really have come out in the beginning of 2022 before CIG torpedoed its own quarterly release schedule, and is itself a trivial addition to a broken alpha for a game that’s (6 years?) behind schedule and has no release date.

AutismVaccine
Feb 26, 2017


SPECIAL NEEDS
SQUAD


Lets be serious here: How can you have the gall to demand a working game only after they began development in 2022? It is not like CIG have hundreds of people and unlimited money. Star Citizens are sure entitled.

DOMDOM
Apr 28, 2007

Fun Shoe

quote:

So I'm now watching all the chaos (especially with 3.18) from the sideline - as a spectator so to speak.

I've unsubscribed from all the newsletters - no more lorem ipsum-like SQ42404 reports, the marketing guys can no longer bother me with FOMO mails (It's honestly a RELIEF, trust me)

Do I miss anything now that I haven't logged in for a few weeks ? No. Not really.
The "beautiful sunsets" and the eye candy just disctracted me from the pathetic state of the PU anyway so I don't give a fck about "beautiful sunsets" anymore.

I've been following this project for almost 10 years now and I've learned three things:
1. Eye candy, cool ships, JPEG concepts, more JPEGs, devs talking about JPEGs, devs theory-crafting, community events, SCL, SQ404 reports - none of this really matters if CIG won't manage to deliver a decent game within a reasonable timeframe. That's not my opinion. That's a fact.
2. the PR guys as well as the devs are very good at keeping backers hyped and engaged - yeah...I get it, dear PR guys and devs: I am a donkey and all I want is the "pie-in-the-sky", respectively the CARROT that's dangling in front of my head. Well, tough luck ! My wallet is closed and it stays closed


3. CIG invested 10 years and burned $500 million without officially releasing ONE decent game. Would you believe that ? Just imagine you're travelling 10 years back in time, you meet your "younger self" and you're telling him that 10 years later, after CIG burned $500 million there's still no decent game let alone SQ404. Let it sink in for a while.


A while ago I just laughed at all the backers who were whining and complaining about the project.

Now I'm laughing with them.

DOMDOM
Apr 28, 2007

Fun Shoe

quote:

What most frustrates people and makes them have a bad impression about CIG is the absolute absence of information and/or communication about 'what happens'.

On the pages of the launcher and Robert Space, just advertising for something that doesn't exist - yet - a game running smoothly as shown in this advertisement. On the contrary, what exists is and only 'chaos'.

I don't think this policy - of silence, good, much less seems to be helping, releasing patches on weekends where, and precisely, those who work on the game are resting (and rightfully so).

I've always been a supporter of the CIG when it comes to 'future information', about implementing things in the game on lives, on the internet, but when problems arise, it would be wise for CIG to change its 'silence' policy.

DOMDOM
Apr 28, 2007

Fun Shoe

quote:

op is right

patch comes 6 months too late and is a joke

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

AutismVaccine posted:

Imo we shouldnt forget that SA itself is also a bubble, real world isnt as progressive or caring about certain topics.

The whole gender thing is just hosed in real life application. Last month i filled out somekind of tax form for my local council. My gender options were: male female trans inter open and other. Like wtf is going on, why even ask about it then? Just get rid of it.


In summary: Star Citizen is hosed.

Wait 'trans' was listed as its own category separate from the others? That's stupid. Or are you just mad there were lots of options, which seems fine.

Kavros
May 18, 2011

sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep
The patch has been out for basically just saturday and the devs are already announcing that they will have to do either a full wipe or a partial wipe of inventory assets because of corrupt data and/or dupe glitching, and most players aren't that concerned because they have been wholly unable to play.

Kavros
May 18, 2011

sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep
People who remain genuinely excited for this game had set aside (at least) weekend time for 3.18 last week, then again for this week, so there's open cracks in the goodwill. Lots of people breaking into clear frustration and saying "okay, this actually sucks"

Which immediately makes them the target of the monocle-cat-energy types, who don't realize they're making things worse by responding to any genuine disappointment with targeted alienation and obsessive screeds about how this is an alpha so any problems are fine, that's just how this works.

I don't get to witness most of the craziness in person, because there's no way I'm even trying to play for another week. But in this case, most of the safari is easily visible on reddit or discord whenever i stop in to see if the game is actually playable as opposed to hypothetically playable.

Angry BIerds
Nov 3, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
How is this still going on??? Nothing whatsoever has changed!!!

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Yeah but theoretically if you drop a coffee cup now it will still be there the next time you login (if you happen to get placed onto the same server) forever (if nobody else drops too many items triggering culling of older items) so it's totally worth the wait and bugs!

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Popete posted:

Yeah but theoretically if you drop a coffee cup now it will still be there the next time you login (if you happen to get placed onto the same server) forever (if nobody else drops too many items triggering culling of older items) so it's totally worth the wait and bugs!

From what I've learned about the game from this thread, I expect that there will be a bug where if you drop enough coffee cups, it will start culling players instead of objects.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

Kavros posted:

The patch has been out for basically just saturday and the devs are already announcing that they will have to do either a full wipe or a partial wipe of inventory assets because of corrupt data and/or dupe glitching, and most players aren't that concerned because they have been wholly unable to play.

LOL:iiasb: strikes again

Kavros posted:


Which immediately makes them the target of the monocle-cat-energy types, who don't realize they're making things worse by responding to any genuine disappointment with targeted alienation and obsessive screeds about how this is an alpha so any problems are fine, that's just how this works.

I love how people like Piss Cat ignore that we’re 11 years and 600 million dollars into this mess and CIG has completely abandoned their own quarterly release schedule that Erin and others pinky swore was super realistic and achievable this time. This patch is their big update/all they have to show for an entire year.

No sir, CIG is still a plucky indie studio, and development really didn’t start until Chris bought his first mansion or something, and they have to be kept in a bubble absolutely free of criticism and full of unlimited money.

Cutedge
Mar 13, 2006

How can we lose so much more than we had before

Their marketing and community team is still posting about 3.18 features on Twitter. The replies are… well it’s not going well lol

Edit: they finally acknowledged that they’re having a “super rough start” and are listing that there is a “major outage”

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
Has anyone been able to explain what server meshing actually is?

Cutedge
Mar 13, 2006

How can we lose so much more than we had before

Their :words: :techno: post is https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/18397-Server-Meshing-And-Persistent-Streaming-Q-A

All you need to know it that it totally isn’t just dynamic instancing like wow introduced in their Wrath of the Lich King expansion in 2008 and totally not like Cross-Realm Zones like they introduced in their Mists of Pandaria expansion in 2012. I’m sure piss cat can tell you about how this is a new technology no one has ever even attempted before

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib

Asproigerosis posted:

Has anyone been able to explain what server meshing actually is?

With or without using the word 'scam'?

nawledgelambo
Nov 8, 2016

Immersion chariot
man there are bigots and transphobes everywhere

nawledgelambo
Nov 8, 2016

Immersion chariot
how do we rid them of the world so we can seclude into this bubbled mentality of non opposing viewpoints

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

It's not my job to rid the world of them, but it is my job to rid the Games forum of them and I'm gonna keep doing it.

e: Oh look, someone else who only posts in this thread and thinks this is an issue of 'opposing viewpoints'. Hmm.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
If you want to talk about how it's just an "opposing viewpoint", go to Spectrum. You'd be in good company there with many people who agree with you.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




HopperUK posted:

e: Oh look, someone else who only posts in this thread and thinks this is an issue of 'opposing viewpoints'. Hmm.

Literally every time.

Lammasu
May 8, 2019

lawful Good Monster
Oh God, the name their updates. 3.18 is called Lasting Legacies. This could create an irony singularity.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Surely they name it after a key feature of the patch right ?

Not that it matters since nothing ever works , but what is in the patch in regards to the ever touted persistence ?

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Blue On Blue posted:

Surely they name it after a key feature of the patch right ?

Not that it matters since nothing ever works , but what is in the patch in regards to the ever touted persistence ?

https://www.pcgamesn.com/star-citizen/patch-3-18-lasting-legacies

I tried to figure it out and this is all I got. None of it sounds like a lasting legacy.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Something Awful and it's secluded bubble of not dehumanizing other people.

Hey wait, that actually sounds kinda nice...

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Asproigerosis posted:

Has anyone been able to explain what server meshing actually is?

Yes!

Server Meshing is one of the key technologies to get the jump points working in-game by allowing star systems to seamlessly move in and out of memory without the need for loading screens. Players will first see this next year when the first iteration of Server Meshing goes live with the introduction of the Pyro system. In the last 500 years, server meshing has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Stimsis. The Fourth Stimpire has origins from the Ten Empire War in which 10 of the United Stimpires revolted against each rules. All empires except for the fourth swore freedom upon their citizens. There is no free speech in the Fourth Stimpire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards.

Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the Fourth Stimpire is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their sexual organs will be subjected to a penectomy or if the offender was a female, they would then have a razor inserted into their ovaries. They would pump a blue solution into the womb until the stitchings burst. Offenders would also be forced to show their operated areas in public, and they would always harass and punch them to a pulp, against their will.

Otherwise, offenders would be tazed with the worst type of electricity in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness. The pain would also triple every second, but no death would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all UEE forces must wear the upgraded suit to block this effect.

However, enertainment is also questionable in UEE grounds. Sporting events end with the losing team being rounded into a grinder and shredded on live television, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands removed without anasthesia, flight races would end with the losers having their arms and legs removed, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves tweaking the muscles so they will not listen to brain commands, and then having a painful drug injected which also causes madness if the player is not sporting. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps.

Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection.

All executions are broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will be executed. All citizens must boo to the person being executed, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot pass out, but they will feel like it forever.

Conquests by this Stimpire end in the planet being razed, and all the citizens being executed in the same way as their citizens are. The planet is then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from civil minds. People who are also killed are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed.

Prisoners undergo 40,000 years of relentless and endless labor, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the eternator injection. All prisoners injected with eternators are placed into capsules and launched into far space, then the room is closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some prisoners are also subjected to the removal of blood, the lungs, the liver, the genitals, the skeleton, the muscles, the eyes, and even the injection of pressure. Prisoners sentenced to pressure chambers are locked in until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable.

Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average.

Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Stimpire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day, as they are afraid the population may overthrow them. But only one planet is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching buildings, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Civil enforcers are on every planet, and they are engineered so that they are 40 times larger than the 300 quadrillion population. At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule.

Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything to loving the Stimpire with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed.

The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Are there actually coffee cups even in the game?

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Popete posted:

Are there actually coffee cups even in the game?


I want to say yes but does COFFEE TO 60 even have coffee?

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Asproigerosis posted:

Has anyone been able to explain what server meshing actually is?

On a conceptual level, a fundamental misunderstanding of how networking actually works, most likely based on what CRobber half-read in an in-flight magazine on the topic of “leveraging the cloud” while… ehm… eating vitamins.

On a practical level, session management and the ability to store and restore a world-state. Truly exceptional technologies that have never been done before.

JugbandDude
Jul 19, 2016

Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun

Shine on you crazy diamond!
It will let you shoot another commando in another ship, so each server will hand over your bullet to the next until it hits the unfortunate commando

It will solve all their performance issues and the AI issues that come with them

It will solve all the desyncing issues causing stairs, ramps and trains to kill you

It will allow hundreds of players to participate in epic space battles with multiple capital ships and fighters zipping around just like Star Wars and WW2

Server meshing, my friend, is LIFE

Angry BIerds
Nov 3, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
All hail the stimpire!

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

colonelwest posted:





Btw it’s really the fault of the entitled Karens who uhmm (checks notes)… demanded that CIG release a patch that was 3 months late, should really have come out in the beginning of 2022 before CIG torpedoed its own quarterly release schedule, and is itself a trivial addition to a broken alpha for a game that’s (6 years?) behind schedule and has no release date.



Oh yes straight into the veins! I needed a good ol' "everything is now of fire" patch, now to wait for the gaming press to start their usual round of SC bashing as well :allears:

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BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
The release of Starfield can’t come soon enough, what with the great amount of colour we’ll get to see.

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