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Jedit posted:Oh, so now you're against illegal immigrants? Perhaps it is you who is the real fascist. Huh (as in 'huff' not 'que?'). I'm going to stop eating crisps now thanks to your comment 
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https://twitter.com/boardofdeputies/status/1634869565833326594?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg Someone forgot to log into their Alt lol 
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^^^ lol https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1634869605389807617 It's like a reboot of The Day Today
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 Don't make me feel bad about my holiday home in the West Bank.
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Bridgen has gone full Icke https://twitter.com/abridgen/status/1634861570957225984?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg
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The world is run by twelve foot tall potato people!
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smellmycheese posted:Bridgen has gone full Icke Who is this person?
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An MP who lost his home in a fight about his nepo appointment to a potato business.
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https://twitter.com/Iromg/status/1634679942959988738 A lot of the right wing personalities on twitter are really melting down at the moment It's quite entertaining fuctifino fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Mar 12, 2023 |
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Unsurprisingly Sunak is going to rush in with a lavish aid package for the uninsured bank full of techbro millionaire’s money 
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/Iromg/status/1634679942959988738 That's almost certainly a libellous statement, too in case known knobhead James O'Brien fancies sueing someone.
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Whoopee doo, UC sanctions to tighten. I'm more and more convinced that we will see the return of Workhouses in the next 10 years. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/universal-credit-sanctions-hunt-budget-b2298836.html Universal credit sanctions regime to be tightened in Jeremy Hunt’s ‘back-to-work’ Budget Union criticises ‘worrying’ move, as jobcentre staff to be trained ‘to ensure they are applying sanctions effectively’ etc
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I did not sign in to get this tweet. I come in at the other end of the process, but I do need to know what might happen in court. Surely we've got at least one bored barrister lurking who can correct me if I bollock this up? The judge is under a general duty to ensure a fair trial by only permitting evidence which is relevant to the alleged offences, and to exclude what is irrelevant. This works both ways; it prevents freeman-on-the-land defendants from talking bollocks about the Magna Carta as a defence to why their vehicle is untaxed and falling to bits, and it also prevents prosecutors unfairly attacking defendants' character ("he once listened to a Stormzy song, you know who else listens to Stormzy songs, clearly this means he's a drug dealer"). In legal jargon we talk about something called the "points to prove": each offence is broken down into a series of individual points, if each one of them is true then the offence has been "made out" or "completed", and if any one of them is not true then the offence cannot be committed. Let's take criminal damage as the example: quote:A person who: You can defend yourself in one of two main ways: you can either dispute identity ("It wasn't me, I didn't do it, you've got the wrong person") or you can dispute any of the individual points of the offence ("I wrote on the statue with chalk which was trivially easy to clean off and therefore it was not damaged"). It is then the Crown's job to disprove those claims. This is why the Colston Four talked at length about their motive and were permitted to do so; they were claiming they had a lawful excuse to do what they did and it was necessary to explore that in detail. The route to verdict is well worth reading here (it's a document which judges now routinely produce for juries, a series of "If you believe X is true, acquit the defendant; if not, go to the next point" statements based around the facts of the case) to understand how these things go in the real world. I believe the current protestors are these people, who have been charged with causing a public nuisance. The definition of that offence* is as follows: quote:A person commits an offence if— In contrast to criminal damage, a defendant cannot by definition have a lawful excuse to be a public nuisance. Their intent is only relevant to the offence insofar as what they intended the consequences of their actions to be. Their wider motive cannot provide any defence. As a matter of law, the judge is correct to exclude any evidence as to why they did it because it's irrelevant. They are effectively in the same position as the Freeman who is trying to defend himself with his declaration of lawful rebellion. The judge is also correct to take strong steps to prevent them trying, otherwise the jury is at risk of factoring irrelevant evidence into their decision. I cannot stress enough how important this is to the rights of the defendant when it is the prosecution who want to introduce irrelevant evidence. The judge is also correct to say that while it is evidentially irrelevant, their motive will be highly relevant if they are convicted, when he's considering what sentence to hand down, and they should talk about it in mitigation instead. That reads to me as nothing so much as the closest a judge will ever get to saying "I sympathise and if convicted you are going to get as little as I can get away with giving you, please stop pissing about and play the game". Instead, they're choosing instead to mug the court off. They know the inevitable consequences of mugging a Crown Court off. (So does Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.) It may yet turn out to be a good tactical decision and I hope for their sake that it is. It seems to have achieved their immediate objective of hanging the original jury. *They have in fact been charged with the old common law offence because they did it in 2021; the new statutory offence which I'm referring to only came in in 2022, but the language of the new offence is a lot less antiquated and in this instance it seems to come to the same thing. Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Mar 12, 2023 |
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lol bloody brighton full of wally woofters who eat veggie burgers am i right?????????????
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Answers Me posted:https://twitter.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1557285572938547201?s=20  For reference to any non-Brits ITT, these are the gender-neutral barely recognisable as human monstrosities that replaced the Enid Blyton clip art originals.
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Looked at the sign and am transhuman now.
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:
I see a man in a dress and a wig kidnapping a little child. The triangle is a LGBT symbol.
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Labour will work alongside business to invest in David Icke's flying free energy motors. https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1634856167003541512
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Triangle signs means "warning", red and white circle signs mean "prohibited". Clearly, Hitchens wants to ban 1960s-style children and does not want the public to know about the threat of stick figures. Who is he working for and what are they trying to hide?
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Trin Tragula posted:I come in at the other end of the process, but I do need to know what might happen in court. Surely we've got at least one bored barrister lurking who can correct me if I bollock this up? Thanks for this, very informative. I did jury service nearly 40 years ago & got to be Madam Foreman for one of the two trials I served. Now you mention it, I have some vague recollection of the judge saying something like you have to find them guilty of all of a particular offence (they were charged with a long list of offences) and if you don't find them guilty of part of the offence as listed then they are not guilty of the whole of that particular offence.
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I was summoned one time, had to keep the week free (got to work a steady shift at my poo poo job for once) and then only got called in one day, and the guy pleaded guilty before we went into the courtroom. So basically I just got up early, went to Aylesbury for the day, read a book in the waiting room and then got a lift back to Milton Keynes with a really friendly chap with great music taste. Much better than working.
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fuctifino posted:A lot of the right wing personalities on twitter are really melting down at the moment 
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I dunno guys, I think Sarah Vine might know a thing or two about Nazis 
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Trin Tragula posted:I come in at the other end of the process, but I do need to know what might happen in court. Surely we've got at least one bored barrister lurking who can correct me if I bollock this up? This is a fairly good summary. Obviously without having been present, I don't know if the judge made his ruling at the start of the trial (which would make it a straight ticket to Appeals Town) or after the Defendant made his 800th comment about climate change. At a guess (and that's all this is) if the defendents are a part of XR, they are probably bellends. Well meaning bellends, but likely to be bellends who talk about climate change all the time. I could well see them as answering the question "What did you do that morning?" with "Well I woke up and decided that I would atop climate change. So I walked down the street, so as not to further contribute to green House gas emissions. " Like I think the ruling could potentially open the door on it being abused. But at a guess, this case might just be a well-meaning idiot getting hosed for what they did.
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crispix posted:lol bloody brighton full of wally woofters who eat veggie burgers am i right????????????? I saw z-list comedian Stephen Grant last year who's whole act appeared to be 'I'm from Brighton, but I'm not gay, isn't that wild?... here's all the funny homophobia i've heard, because of this misunderstanding'.
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OwlFancier posted:really crazy how adolf hitler just appeared in the reichstag one day and nobody could throw him out. Also the usual confusion between concentration camps (like the ones we invented in the Boer war, or Soviet gulags - you got chucked into one without any due process and they didn't really care if you died in there but statistically you're probably getting out eventually - this is the 1933 ones and the first people in there are actually the communists/socialists by and large because the Nazis are consolidating power) and extermination camps (they very much do care that you die in there as soon as is expedient, these are the 1942 ones).
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kingturnip posted:That's almost certainly a libellous statement, too in case known knobhead James O'Brien fancies sueing someone. Turns out he does! https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1634888059337465857?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Whoopee doo, UC sanctions to tighten. The bad news is it also looks like they're going after single income families and expanding the list of people who they feel 'should' be working and placing sanction responsibility back in the hands of jobcentre staff.
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Darth Walrus posted:Turns out he does! always read his handle as Mr. Jame SOB
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Bobby Deluxe posted:The good news is Scope are saying it looks good for disabled people and people who are medically able to work? It basically already was in their hands. They'd send it up to a "decision maker" who the same as the others with a tiny bit more of a specialism and then they sanction people regardless because they don't give a gently caress
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I need Gary linekar closure He can't hurt you anymore
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I need Gary linekar closure He's getting deported under the new rules. To a place called Leichestercity. Sounds German.
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