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Oh my god, I I got to emails in this week's podcast and wondered how there was still 25 minutes left, since they tend to do like one or two emails and then swiftly bail I didn't realize I was in for maybe the most insane pat lore yet
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Captain Invictus posted:Oh my god, I I got to emails in this week's podcast and wondered how there was still 25 minutes left, since they tend to do like one or two emails and then swiftly bail I've been skipping emails for a while now, but I'll deffo check this one's out then
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Mar 10, 2023 02:14
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Pat explained it a little bit better in one of his streams, but yeah my mouth was open for some of that discussion
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Mar 10, 2023 16:04
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Is Pat running a voice changer on his streams or something? I tuned in to his RE4 stream and he sounds a lot more nasally/higher pitched than usual. Edit: Tried on my phone and he sounds normal. For some reason my weird setup has everything pitched up a bit.
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Mar 10, 2023 21:07
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I mean he has a voice changer. It's used for the pay pig oink oink oink donation or whatever though
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Mar 10, 2023 22:12
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This reminds me, has it always been the case that the audio podcast is, I'm guessing, Woolie's discord audio and it keeps turning down Pat if Woolie is making any noise? I feel like it was normal and it changed maybe a month or two ago or maybe I wasn't paying attention as well as I thought. Now every once in a while they'll both be talking or Woolie will be laughing at something and Pat becomes almost inaudible. I'm probably just crazy.
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Mar 10, 2023 22:31
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I thought Pat just leaned away from the mic sometimes.
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Mar 10, 2023 23:05
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His mic's software has peaking prevention that cuts out if it detects a really loud noise. Unfortunately it also works on him.
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Mar 10, 2023 23:11
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It's not him peaking, you can still hear him but it's hard to make out. It really sounds like his audio's volume goes down if Woolie's making any noise, like it's prioritizing it. It could be Pat leaning away, I'd have to compare to the video version and that's maybe too much 
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Mar 11, 2023 04:05
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Woolie saying 'free use' instead of 'fair use' is some top tier malapropism
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Mar 12, 2023 04:54
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thank you- i'm familiar with the term and i was extremely, extremely taken aback by that title and could not possibly imagine what that could mean for the podcast
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Mar 12, 2023 04:59
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Captain Invictus posted:Oh my god, I I got to emails in this week's podcast and wondered how there was still 25 minutes left, since they tend to do like one or two emails and then swiftly bail Here it is Maybe the craziest thing we've learned about the bald man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXQwCcob5hU
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Mar 12, 2023 06:09
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Can't hear a guitar riff in his head because he's not a guitar what
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I feel like I've heard about people only "hearing" their own voice in their heads before, like it was a mildly common thing similar to aphantasia, but not how Pat describes it. Kinda wish someone with proper knowledge about this stuff was present so they could've asked better questions than Woolie. I really want to know exactly wtf Pat means by remembering a song vs "playing" it in his head so he can "hear" it. Like wtf is the second step, or is not recalling a song the same thing for everyone? It almost sounded like this thing I read about a long time ago about how some people when reading silently will still very, very quietly vocalize it internally, like the muscles in the throat used for talking are moving slightly...I'm going to look this up real quick, because it's seriously something I read 20+ years ago...it's called Subvocalization although I'm not sure if this would be the case here but maybe? The email that started the conversation was implying that all of this was just from a bad study and they think it's a semantics thing due to poor communication, which gets quickly ignored to discuss Pat's thing. I don't buy that myself based on extensive conversations with a few friends that have aphantasia, and oddly the way Pat was describing remembering songs for a bit sounded like how my friends remember images, also the no dreams thing lines up, but he claims he can "see" a photorealistic apple. It almost feels like it's a communication issue with Pat but maybe Woolie just wasn't asking the right questions. Do songs not get stuck in his head or do they just sound like him doing a lovely version of it with acapella melodies? If he sees the Futurama meme of Farnsworth saying "Good news everyone! You're reading this in my voice" does it just not work? We may never know. What if Pat's right and everyone else is just a much, much better mimic? Fake edit: Oh god I forgot about him talking about how his dreams work the few times he's remembered them. Most of that aside, referring to it as "a list of things that happened" and memories being a "script" also sounds like aphantasia.
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That’s kind of how I am. I can’t really bring up an image of an apple or whatever but I fully understand what one looks like without issue, there just isn’t a “visual” element going on. Similarly I can’t play back conversations and music despite playing instruments for a decade or so. The data is all there, just not in a way most people seem to interact with it. To put it in computer toucher terms, it’s like a file explorer set to “details” view while most people apparently have it set to “large icons”. Pat seems to take things a bit farther where he can “access” the stored data in a similar way to most but his mental “midi controller” only has the one set of instruments, his own voice. Which is interesting/wild in it’s on way but he’s doing better than me I guess. (Disclaimer: I can actually “view” and “play back” stuff but it takes considerable effort to get what amounts to a blurry out of focus approximation so I usually just don’t bother.) Warbird fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 12, 2023 |
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Mar 12, 2023 17:27
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i feel like pat has to be misunderstanding something because like... if you can't hear the sound of a song in your head, how do you know what it should sound like when you replicate it with your inner voice?
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Mar 12, 2023 21:02
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I understand what Pat's saying. I'm not with him all the way, but I experience dreams the same way as he described - no sound at all, and usually total nonsense. If someone is talking, there's no voice, just the understanding of the words that were communicated. In the same way that Pat internalises a script of the events he experiences, he internalises the 'sheet music' of music he listens to, although he claims not very well. Obviously it's not on the level of an actual script or actual sheet music, something a bit more fundamental.
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Mar 12, 2023 21:14
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I don't get it myself but I know better than to question someone's experiences.
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Mar 12, 2023 21:19
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This seems like it's something where the vocabulary being used to describe specific differing experiences just isn't enough. As long as we're using terms like "hear in my head" I don't think there's any way to even begin to properly communicate this kind of perception.
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Mar 12, 2023 21:30
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I feel like regardless of whether existing vocabulary is sufficient to discuss this or not, Pat is still describing a secondary thought process that involves him doing a one man show in his head.
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Mar 13, 2023 00:07
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I dont see a problem with him hearing himself in conversation memories. I do not remember things that way, but that doesn't feel like a bridge too far to me. Songs though--that's bonkers to me
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Mar 13, 2023 03:13
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Same. When it started with him saying that it's mostly a version of his own voice when reading books I understood exactly what he meant. But, not being able to listen to music in your head without you trying to imitate the instruments with your voice is hilarious, disturbing, and a real problem. I have the opposite problem if anything. I feel like I have some song playing in my mind all my waking hours without my permission. Always on in the background. I can't turn my mind off and Pat sounds like it's all he can do to get his inner music even going. Guy sounds like he needs an IV drip of fish oil or something.
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Mar 13, 2023 08:06
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did woolie forget to release the highlight version of the Hi-Fi Rush finale, or did something happen where he couldn't put out the VOD? was really looking forward to it, I hopped in right as he was fighting Kale so figured I'd check back for the VOD to watch the whole thing.
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Brightman posted:Most of that aside, referring to it as "a list of things that happened" and memories being a "script" also sounds like aphantasia. This is it, the only way it makes sense is if he remembers conversations/audio visually like a transcript, so he can't recall the audio, he can only "read" like he's reading a book. It sounds rough, but I'm also the kind of person who can replay movies in their head so of course I would. Non-verbal communication in dreams where you just intuit poo poo I get entirely tho.
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Mystic Mongol posted:Emotional appeals? I'll give you a loving emotional appeal, you miserable poo poo. i'm sorry
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Mar 14, 2023 20:17
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in four years there hasnt been a worse post here than that one at least. also i just listened to the pat voice clip and holy hell not being able to conjure music in my head just kill me. seems like one of those things he unintentionally made a rule or understanding in his head about at a very, very young age and now thats just how his brain works. "i make my own voice and cannot make other sounds, why would my brain be able to do any different?" does make sense as a rule but good god
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Mar 15, 2023 00:14
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"take on me" in pat's voice
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Oxxidation posted:"take on me" in pat's voice I can hear him in my head he's off key
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Mar 15, 2023 03:41
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We must now force him into becoming a voice actor. It's the only way to save him from himself.
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https://twitter.com/MattMcMuscles/status/1635467656680579072 I am playing RE4 for the very first time (RE4R looked really hyped and, as a viewer of this group, i've always heard it's an amazing game that'd be in my interests) I actually just finished that room. As someone that doesn't feel that good at the game, playing a Resident Evil for the first time.... skill issue lol. That encounter is great, it's stressful but a ton of fun. Went through it first shot, even though by the end I was panicking and missing scope shots I really normally wouldn't.
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Matt's a big ol soft boy who always gives up and skips challenges after 1 or 2 failed attempts iirc so that hot take isn't too surprising- but yea that's absolutely one of the best, most memorable sequences in the whole game!! edit: That's dope you're enjoying it your first time. Game is a timeless classic and ready to be enjoyed by anyone any where, any time.
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Mar 15, 2023 04:30
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Pat trying to trick Woolie into playing Tetra Master is some top quality stuff.
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Mar 15, 2023 14:52
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I legitimately don't remember this part at all other than it maybe being an opportunity to snipe a lot?
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Mar 15, 2023 15:18
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Szmitten posted:I legitimately don't remember this part at all other than it maybe being an opportunity to snipe a lot? it’s the hardest setpiece in the game by a pretty wide margin
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Mar 15, 2023 15:21
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Iirc you blow a hole or two in the shields and snipe through them so you not? I need to get back to playing through the VR version. If you thought the Wii-mote was a busted way to play then you need to take that for a spin.
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Sniping while being sniper at with arrows This was the room that proved to people that Capcom made things easier for the player if they kept dying over and over again
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ConanThe3rd posted:Pat trying to trick Woolie into playing Tetra Master is some top quality stuff.
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Mar 15, 2023 23:54
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If he doesn't inflict it on everone else trying to over-psyhcoanalise every card he plays the first time he plays by accident.
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Warbird posted:Iirc you blow a hole or two in the shields and snipe through them so you not? That was my instinct seeing that image yes.
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Pat's Last of Us show ending take is wild to me. I think it is completely opposite and they corrected to far in the other direction making Joel look like a complete psychopath monster who is 100% in the wrong. They even gave him ominous villain music and shot the rampage to look like a mass shooting.
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