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Standard off-site CW apply to this article in the New York Post. Russia loses 1,090 soldiers in reported deadliest day of war
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Mar 13, 2023 15:03
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Are the Ents on the march yet (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 13, 2023 15:09
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CommieGIR posted:I think Xi is gonna play both sides of the fence here, I suspect he doesn't really want to align with a broken and slowly ground down Russia and see's a chance to gain from this.
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Mar 13, 2023 15:13
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It will be as much of a joke as China's peace plan was a few weeks ago.
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Mar 13, 2023 15:19
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CommieGIR posted:I think Xi is gonna play both sides of the fence here, I suspect he doesn't really want to align with a broken and slowly ground down Russia and see's a chance to gain from this. Yeah, my reading is the Pooh Bear is trying to boost China by acting as peacemaker, not tear down Ukraine. He'll be terrible at the job, but he mainly wants a seat at the table. Zelenski will diplomatically reject the nonsense that Xi brings to him but they both get their moment to say, "We're talking about peace!" Xi coming out of the call going, "Ukraine is totally unreasonable for not letting Russia have a taste of their country and a time out to rebuild their military!" isn't a "loss" for Ukraine because nobody takes China seriously as a diplomatic force. The world will just laugh at this week's ineffectual temper tantrum from China and then move on.
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Mar 13, 2023 15:20
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Random Stranger posted:Yeah, my reading is the Pooh Bear is trying to boost China by acting as peacemaker, not tear down Ukraine. He'll be terrible at the job, but he mainly wants a seat at the table. Zelenski will diplomatically reject the nonsense that Xi brings to him but they both get their moment to say, "We're talking about peace!" I don't think Xi is that out of touch that'd he'd tout that absurd peace plan publicly, I suspect he's just going to frame it as an attempt to discuss the issues. But who knows. I think Zelensky is also smart enough to not get into a conversation where Xi could tout that plan again.
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Mar 13, 2023 15:28
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Putin copped his way into being a defacto genocide and ethnic cleansing emperor, Xi merely politicked his way into it. Putin surely won't respect a guy who has all that power and doesn't abuse it to get a giant billion dollar vineyard mansion with a slot car track.
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Mar 13, 2023 15:35
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Well yes, to a point. In some situations. If my enemy has only small arms, then I'll be very happy in my T-62, but if they have any kind of anti-tank weaponry then I'm just presenting them with a very obvious and easy target. For sure. There's really no comparison. When it comes to protection, you may block a few more weapon types in a 62 than a Leopard 1, but a 1A5 is better than any iteration of a T-62 in nearly every other regard. The T-62 may use a somewhat powerful smoothbore gun, but it doesn't use two-piece ammo, and the shells are something like a meter long. It also doesn't have a turret basket (does have a rotating floor), so the loader has to make some difficult movements just to get shells from main storage to either the gun or ready racks (62 doesn't use an autoloader). The main ammo storage is stored inside the frontal fuel tanks, the logic being that in event of penetration, the fuel could douse the ammunition. This is fine in theory, but in practice, any penetrator made after 1965 can light up the fuel/ammo boxes from the front, and even HESH has been known to do it, nevermind the ready racks that hang shells all over the inside of the turret. The crew compartment is known to fill up with gases from the cannon and MG. There's a vent out the back to clear air from the compartment (literally just a hole) and toss out spent shells, but it can only do so much, so some crews in different parts of the world have been observed operating with the hatches open. It's been a while since I've seen the upgraded electronics in a T-62M, but I remember them being pretty awful, if they're even going to go into these emergency models at all.
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Mar 13, 2023 15:37
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1635271875407368193 Just going to knock on the door of the Kremlin right?
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Mar 13, 2023 15:39
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Smoothbored Russian military intelligentsia
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Mar 13, 2023 15:39
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1635270630617804801 My dear blogger, have you heard of portable generators or even diesel powered arc welders? None of your suggestions, nor your letting slip that this war has actually been prosecuted by Russia for eight years, are going to change how these shelters are set up under field conditions. zone fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Mar 13, 2023 |
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Mar 13, 2023 15:46
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https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/03/12/how-ukraine-tamed-russian-missile-barrages-and-kept-the-lights-on Here's an article about how the energy grid in Ukraine has been kept alive all this time despite the attacks. A lot of spares, as you'd expect, but some interesting details as well. Coquito Ergo Sum posted:For sure. There's really no comparison. When it comes to protection, you may block a few more weapon types in a 62 than a Leopard 1, but a 1A5 is better than any iteration of a T-62 in nearly every other regard. Definitely. Plus survivability for a tank doesn't begin and end with eating a shot.  While the 1A5 is large (and therefore whatever it has going on in the "signature management" department isn't that awesome - also that size contributes to the crew comfort soft factors you pointed out), I understand it to have a big advantage in step 1, situational awareness.
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Mar 13, 2023 15:49
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Toxic Mental posted:Putin copped his way into being a defacto genocide and ethnic cleansing emperor, Xi merely politicked his way into it. Putin surely won't respect a guy who has all that power and doesn't abuse it to get a giant billion dollar vineyard mansion with a slot car track. And mold problems. Don't forget the mold.
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Mar 13, 2023 15:50
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Karma Comedian posted:And mold problems. Don't forget the mold. That whole video is hilarious, in a sad and dystopian kind of way. Gotta have an indoor underground hockey rink. You know, for the people.
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Mar 13, 2023 16:02
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1635262000099098624 Bro you do realize that you'll soon have nothing left to prosecute this "special military operation" with any longer, right? Give up and go home and the tattered fragments of your army can still be used to defend your borders with. One more year and you won't even have this left.
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Mar 13, 2023 16:05
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1635262000099098624 .....is this translated right? He's saying both: "We can have peace at any time, but our goals can only be achieved militarily" Reads like he's drunk.
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Mar 13, 2023 16:07
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https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-12-2023 ISW assessment posted for March 12. One interesting quote from here is that apparently there are cases of desertion even from Spetsnaz units of both soldiers and officers.
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Mar 13, 2023 16:11
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1635259505008349186 
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Mar 13, 2023 16:17
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freelop posted:Pooh will probably push some peace plan that lets Russia keep territory they stole, Zelensky will reject it and Pooh will decry how he tried to push for peace but the war mongering west are pushing too hard to continue the war. Possibly the latter, but in a way that will make it sound like "Ukraine agreed to keep you busy/be a second front while we do this" even if Zelensky said otherwise. I'd expect a prompt press release from UA over the contents of the call to keep any intentions from being twisted. Tai posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1635271875407368193 Can't really attend G-n summits if you get Hague'd the moment you land in another country. 
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Mar 13, 2023 16:50
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And big birds https://twitter.com/Dennisgonzo238/status/1633498963260088325
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Mar 13, 2023 17:48
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1050 Russians dead yesterday. Worst single day death toll of the war. It's going to get higher. And the territorial gains are negligible at best
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Mar 13, 2023 17:54
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:1050 Russians dead yesterday. Worst single day death toll of the war. *at least (truthfully) reported, there might've been an even bloodier day back in 2022. I also have no clue how Russia could, even hypothetically, turn things around and take something like 10 more towns and hold the territory thereof at this point with or without Bakhmut finally forfeited.
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Mar 13, 2023 17:57
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Apparently Ukraine is doing a counterattack near bakhmut. Not sure of displacement. edit by Toxic Mental - Please be more judicious in your video posting. There's very clearly dead bodies in this one. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Mar 13, 2023 |
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Mar 13, 2023 18:22
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I'd delete that if I were you tbh
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Mar 13, 2023 18:26
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CommieGIR posted:.....is this translated right? He's saying both: "We can have peace at any time, but our goals can only be achieved militarily" "We could stop and go home but then we wouldn't get our way"
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Mar 13, 2023 18:27
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Yeah that's... a bit much.
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Mar 13, 2023 18:30
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1635304303442407425 We are winning so hard we chopped down trees in Moscow to accommodate air defense units that are sorely needed elsewhere on the front. 
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Mar 13, 2023 18:31
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to be fair shoigu wanted to look at some of that wood
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Mar 13, 2023 18:33
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Alan Smithee posted:to be fair shoigu wanted to look at some of that wood Shoigu doesn't even care for that kind of common wood mostly. He's interested in unusually shaped bits of fossilized wood or driftwood more than anything else. But you gotta admit, the man knows his way around a wood shop.
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Mar 13, 2023 18:35
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do you think Shoigu, given enough time, could build a sort of... Spruce Goose of a tank as the next Tsar-series weapon
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Mar 13, 2023 18:37
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Lmao the paranoia is real.
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Mar 13, 2023 18:37
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It's ok. Putin knows a guy with bins and bins of pinecones
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Mar 13, 2023 18:38
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MrQwerty posted:do you think Shoigu, given enough time, could build a sort of... Spruce Goose of a tank as the next Tsar-series weapon IDK, his works tend toward the artistic rather than the practical. Given such a task, he'd probably pay someone else to do it.
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Mar 13, 2023 18:39
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1635304303442407425 whew! at last Moscow is safe from the Tu-160s of the perfidious Ukrainians UA did have some for a while but not for years
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Mar 13, 2023 18:42
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1635304303442407425
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Mar 13, 2023 18:52
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Dwesa posted:I am surprised they had to chop down some trees. Earlier someone posted air defense unit that was stationed between cranes in some Black Sea port. They probably didn't have to chop down those trees, but someone figured out he could sell off the wood afterwards
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Mar 13, 2023 18:56
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Eventually they'll chop down the cranes too
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Mar 13, 2023 18:56
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Whats the chances the trees have been logged by a fraudulent logging company running off bribes to the kremlin and the aa equipment never arrives because its sols to wagnar?
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Mar 13, 2023 18:59
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The first part sounds great, the stuff about HATO mercs is pure hallucination https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1635333730393792538
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Mar 13, 2023 19:00
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Power Khan posted:The first part sounds great, the stuff about HATO mercs is pure hallucination If there's one thing Ukraine had no problem with it was numbers. What they need is more armor, armored vehicles, IFVs, MRAPs, everything. Even the shortage of equipment for foot soldiers early in the war is no longer an issue.
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