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thats some good propaganda. the tweet links to some unrelated guardian article (?) so i had to look a bit. from our friends at the isw: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-12-2023 A Russian milblogger claimed on March 12 that there is a high desertion rate among SPETSNAZ forces.[61] The Russian milblogger claimed that no SPETSNAZ units are at their full complement and that some SPETSNAZ commanders have fled their units despite having received generous salaries for the past ten years.[62] ISW has no independent confirmation of these assertions. It appears unlikely that most commanders have fled these elite units. [61] https://t.me/rsotmdivision/5684 [62] https://t.me/rsotmdivision/5684 quote:💀REVERSE SIDE OF THE MEDAL💀 quote:In general, this entire dispute began because of spizzhennoy content. And now it turns out that if a person who was in the SVO stole your content, he has the right to send everyone the gently caress?! Strange, but acceptable.
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Danann posted:https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/ukraine-is-lying-about-casualty-ratios-to-justify-holding-of-bakhmut.html#more oh we’ve been there for quite some time
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Futanari Damacy posted:It rules that only the most aggro nationalist race purists have any say in the public discourse of what it is to be Ukrainian as opposed to embracing the inherent cosmopolitan nature of having different kinds of people intermingling long before there was anything called a Ukraine It's the cover being run for them by everything here in "the west" that has my eyes popping out of my head. I live in Canada. That it can be presented at face value on CBC that of course a country that was once divided between two colonial empires should have one language and one religion... lol what's the opposite of self-awareness?
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Mar 13, 2023 21:11
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Ask Adam Tooze if he ever read his own book or did he write it in his sleep?
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Mar 13, 2023 21:13
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Can't snooze on the Tooze.
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Mar 13, 2023 21:38
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Futanari Damacy posted:It rules that only the most aggro nationalist race purists have any say in the public discourse of what it is to be Ukrainian as opposed to embracing the inherent cosmopolitan nature of having different kinds of people intermingling long before there was anything called a Ukraine they got massively funded and organized by the west, obviously they'd win out in any weak state that can't shut out foreign meddling. decrying fascists at home and enabling them abroad is the liberal modus operandi
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Mar 13, 2023 21:53
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Frosted Flake posted:The Tsarist Army was, without exaggerating, much more The French conscript army, in Algeria particularly, had all of these same problems, and similarly reflected a society that was going through a period of social strife. I was thinking of watching LE PETIT SOLDAT (1963). is it any good?
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Mar 13, 2023 22:27
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mawarannahr posted:I was thinking of watching LE PETIT SOLDAT (1963). is it any good? yeah pretty good
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Mar 13, 2023 22:40
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Adam Tooze may teach at an American university, but it's important to never forget that he is British and therefore despite being occasionally insightful, will always trend back towards the worst loving opinions of history and current events.
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Mar 13, 2023 22:41
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If anyone thought Adam "some of my best friends are Marxists" Tooze was anything other than pure shill for the very pinnacle of the oligarchy, they're dumb as balls He's a slightly smarter Tom Friedman who has some actual background knowledge in history and a knack for tricking leftists into thinking he's their friend
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Mar 13, 2023 22:49
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Danann posted:https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/ukraine-is-lying-about-casualty-ratios-to-justify-holding-of-bakhmut.html#more There’s probably not more than 100k dead on both sides.
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Throatwarbler posted:Why no Russian version of AGM-65 There's the Kh-29, which is similar but 2-3x the size.
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PawParole posted:There’s probably not more than 100k dead on both sides. https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1635397109313835008
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Endman posted:Adam Tooze may teach at an American university, but it's important to never forget that he is British and therefore despite being occasionally insightful, will always trend back towards the worst loving opinions of history and current events. hes was also a trot
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/punished_stu/status/1635402361471651840?t=230UWjIq3RvVnr2Xz_FcPQ&s=19 they seem to survive about as long as the Saudi Abrams and Turkish Leopard 2's once in high intensity warfare which isn't long. War is bad.
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Mar 13, 2023 23:22
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Russia hitting Chasiv Yar and surrounding area hard, trying to blunt the counterattack. https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1635399572762574848 https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1635399702870130690 Also, apparently Wagner is finally making headway in the SW direction and successfully clearing the plant. https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1635403335405801474 Death By The Blues has issued a correction as of 23:29 on Mar 13, 2023 |
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There's an interesting book that touches on Algeria and Indochina, as well as a few things that might happen in Ukraine, and of course already have in the wake of the Second World War: Defeat and Memory: Cultural Histories of Military Defeat in the Modern Era "The legacy of defeat in war reverberates through private and collective memory and remains a sub-text in international relations and political discourse. This book examines the manner in which a series of military defeats have been understood and remembered by individuals and societies in the era of modern industrialised warfare." Right, so, first of course is the obvious - whatever happens, Ukraine will undergo some major cultural change, and it won't be towards the liberal values that people have convinced themselves are dominant at the moment. Whatever that tendency was, it won't withstand the casualties suffered and defeat, particularly with the national myth already being Political in the wake of another defeat (for Galicia). It's wouldn't just be a national trauma, it would be a national trauma at the hands of untermensch and saboteurs/traitors. France losing Indochina and Algeria severely hosed France up, whatever liberals today tell themselves about Paris 68. It was by no means a universally celebrated triumph of human dignity and decolonialism. It was a politically live issue into the 90's and 2000's, memory remains highly contested. This being France, it wasn't on the level of 1940 or 1871, but still. Ukraine losing here would be a lot more like those anyways, it was just the mention of the French that jogged my memory of this book. Anyway, let's get down to it. What are we talking about when we discuss defeat in memory: "The defeats discussed here range from the Napoleonic Wars to the wars of late twentieth century. It is submitted here that, firstly, the memory of defeat provides a powerful prism through which to view modern history. Furthermore, that woven through these diverse examples are ideas and patterns of behaviour in response to defeat that sometimes echo each other and thus offer further insights in aggregate. This analytical framework has seldom been used previously. The exception is Wolfgang Schivelbusch's The Culture of Defeat: On National Trauma, Mourning and Recovery. His book encompasses three defeats within six decades: the American South after the Civil War, France after its defeat at the hands of Prussia, and Germany after the First World War. In identifying the three sustaining ideas which shaped the memory of these defeats - the Lost Cause, revanchism, and im Felde unbesiegt (undefeated on the field of battle) - Schivelbusch locates these particular defeats within a wider pattern of responses. He notes the cyclical quality of Victory and defeat, the challenge to complacency and hence the intellectual inspiration that defeats have provided, and the transference of blame to deposed tyrants and corrupt former regimes.Further recurring responses are the accusations of betrayal directed both internally and externally, the characterization of opponents as unworthy and unsoldierly and hence the celebration of the purity of the defeated, and the desire for revenge engendered by the humiliation." We've seen all of those already, to varying degrees. Mostly we've seen the total rewriting of the history of WW2, which should concern anyone who remembers that the west is therefore embracing a narrative mourning the defeat of the Axis powers. Ukrainian defeat in the war is Nazi defeat, unless we're celebrating the victory of the Ukrainians in the Red Army, and the same of course holds true for the Baltic. So, cause for concern number one. Number two, we already saw right wing militarism and revanchism in Ukrainian society! After 2015 the so-called Veterans Movement demanded the war resume to recover lost territories, threatened the President of Ukraine on camera, violated ceasefires etc. As far as these things go, 2015 was a mild defeat, especially compared to the losses suffered now, so it would be reasonable to guess that those social and political forces will only grow stronger. Mostly though, I'm curious what the thread things. The author breaks down defeat into types, and I wonder which Ukraine may experience depending on how the war ends and what peace is negotiated: - Temporary Defeat - Definitive Defeat - Total Defeat - Internal Defeat - Partial Defeat If I can throw my hat into the ring, I think it depends on if Russia actually occupies and denazifies Ukraine or if Galicia is left to stew. If they are: "One of the most famous interpretive myths of defeat is the idea of the stab-in-the-back in which Germany's failure in the First World War was presented not as a result of military shortcomings, but because the home front had not properly supported the war effort. It finds a more recent echo in the Vietnam War, discussed here by Jeffrey Kimball. The idea reflects profound tensions between the military and Civilians, and more specifically, in both Germany and America, appears to be a favoured weapon of the political Right. Kimball lists those blamed for Vietnam: 'leftists, liberals, the press, the antiwar movement, civilian policymakers, Democratic Party presidents, and the Congress of the United States'. He also finds that the idea chimes with that of the Lost Cause, the notion that became attached to the American South after the Civil War. In circumstances where the army had been disbanded, the Lost Cause can nonetheless be seen as a patriotic cult of the army in which its veterans are remembered as heroes and its leaders as martyrs. It served to reshape the cause of the war as pertaining to the honourable idea of states' rights, rather than that of slavery. As Karen Cox's chapter shows, paradoxically, the Lost Cause's celebration of the anti-modern features of the chivalrous South was perpetuated through the modern advertising techniques of mass consumerism. Nor is the Lost Cause solely an idea that appeals within America: M. G. Sheftall also identifies a desire within Japanese revisionism at one stage to establish the kamikaze as a Lost Cause in Japan."
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Death By The Blues posted:Also, apparently Wagner is finally making headway in the SW direction and successfully clearing the plant. Well if Ukraine is planning a great offensive to take the pressure off of Bakhmut they should probably get on that...
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Starsfan posted:Well if Ukraine is planning a great offensive to take the pressure off of Bakhmut they should probably get on that... Ukraine having to loudly proclaim all of their future military actions, because they are entirely reliant on a western audience now, foreign public sentiment takes priority over any military matter, including "we're building up (don't lose faith), any minute now we're going to attack (specific geographic area)", then having aforementioned buildup get targeted by Russian fires they can't hope to match, it's really something. It's just... lol Jesus guys. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 23:44 on Mar 13, 2023 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Love map's with lines and arrows wow
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I'll reread the chapters, but since the "home front" is now outside Ukraine, and so Ukraine's defeat can be attributed to weakness, failure and treachery there, while brave Ukrainian soldiers are im Felde unbesiegt, that seems concerning with all of the Stinger missiles and stuff we gave them. Since we already specifically gave them to far-Right lunatics first, I'm just saying, the consequences of "letting" Ukraine be defeated now may not be great.
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Western intelligence is now positing that the ragtag group of freelance divers operating off of a small boat used a magic super bomb to blow up Nord Stream https://twitter.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1635384141041770496
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1635259505008349186?s=20 This guy is SZRP Duma which is Mironov's party, pro-Kremlin but aligned with SI (until they were kicked out in Mar 2022 for some reason) and CPRF lol sabotage
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normal to tell the enemy you have low ammunition
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Victis posted:https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1635259505008349186?s=20 The orcs have proven that all they need to advance is a shovel and a whip, I'd caution against drawing any conclusions here.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:ukrainian model kit companies continue to be extremely normal Whoa, hold on there, they weren't just some TDF shmucks, they were https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/tux2nl/soldiers_of_the_safari_national_police_special/
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sum posted:Western intelligence is now positing that the ragtag group of freelance divers operating off of a small boat used a magic super bomb to blow up Nord Stream so they got hold of hundreds of kilograms of miltary explosives instead… really clearing this right up
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Regarde Aduck posted:they seem to survive about as long as the Saudi Abrams and Turkish Leopard 2's once in high intensity warfare Any war thunder player will attest to that, yeah.
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sum posted:Western intelligence is now positing that the ragtag group of freelance divers operating off of a small boat used a magic super bomb to blow up Nord Stream just pile on the physical impossibilities and hope that nobody notices, i guess?
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just for reference, 1 kg of the most potent explosives that are in any kind of widespread use are equivalent to about 1.6 to 1.7 kg of tnt, so you'd go from needing several hundred kilos of tnt to also needing several hundred kilos of your magical superexplosive
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Starsfan posted:Well if Ukraine is planning a great offensive to take the pressure off of Bakhmut they should probably get on that... Isnt it still mud season over there, and will be for several weeks? Whats the earliest a general offensive *could* launch, given the state of the roads?
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sum posted:Western intelligence is now positing that the ragtag group of freelance divers operating off of a small boat used a magic super bomb to blow up Nord Stream First of all, I guess they realized since the boat could not carry the required explosives they needed to invent an imaginary one that could plausibly fit. Since I have many, many, books on military explosives, including case studies on their use to cut underwater cables, I'm just going to point out that a reliable military explosive, "small quantities of which has probably developed a force comparable to several hundred kilograms of TNT", does not exist, or does not exist in a form that Some Guy can purchase.   Below are commercial explosives, which have very different properties, including the ability to use them safely and reliably, than military explosives. You can see TNT is right in the middle of density and detonation velocity, that's why it's the gold standard. What they're proposing would be both denser and more energetic, by, from the wording, hundreds of times.  So I don't know, these OSINT guys must be pretty loving stupid. I'm going to use my miraculous predictive powers to say they'll latch on to an explosive compound that has been used in lab experiments, maybe even just in theory. I would have to look at underwater explosives more, but to manage the heat and speed of the detonation wave, I would guess something with huge amounts of lead (it works for the same reason tetryl boosted octane in gasoline). Again, I don't think for a moment it actually happened, just these twitter guys need something to pedantically say "Ah ha! You see explosive compound XYZ is 100x more energetic than TNT!" Is it safe, stable, can it be detonated reliably? What are the blast effects underwater? Has it ever been manufactured in quantity? By whom, when? Is it commercially available? Where are they theorizing he even got it from? Doesn't matter, they just needed to find a reason to support the story. The comedy option, of course is they believe Red Mercury was used, because that's something that has been sold to rich idiots like the Chocolate King who were looking for a miraculously powerful explosive. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 00:11 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Also whatever happened to Saint HIMARS? I remember there being a news article every other day about HIMARS blowing up the last Russian ammo dump in Ukraine, but I don't see it come up as much these days
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Nix Panicus posted:Also whatever happened to Saint HIMARS? I remember there being a news article every other day about HIMARS blowing up the last Russian ammo dump in Ukraine, but I don't see it come up as much these days I swear to God if they pivot from experts on M777 to experts on HIMARS to experts on explosives, I'm going to lose my goddamn mind.
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Nix Panicus posted:Also whatever happened to Saint HIMARS? I remember there being a news article every other day about HIMARS blowing up the last Russian ammo dump in Ukraine, but I don't see it come up as much these days apparently the russians mostly adapted to more complicated logistics with better missile defence coverage. HIMARS still pop up in the detailed coverage, but the sales push seems to be over
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