fridge corn posted:The only ppl stomping their feet like children are the ones falling over themselves saying how stupid it looks. lmao
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Large Testicles posted:You gonna defend the crosscabrio next? I have logged on. The Crosscabrio is the pinnacle of modern design combining sporty utility and the carefree convertible lifestyle...
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Mar 13, 2023 21:24
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fridge corn posted:I'm a mechanic. It's a job. I can fix mazdas or I can fix ferraris it doesn't really matter. Ferraris are a lot more interesting. A long time ago I would have thought a lot like you but actually spending a lot of time working on, driving, and crawling all around inside and out of supercars I've gained a much greater appreciation of them. I mean by that logic, a GE Dash-9 has 4400 horsepower out of a Turbo V16 is much cooler than that Ferrari. Ok. Checks out.
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Mar 13, 2023 21:24
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Large Testicles posted:You heard it here first, laughing at ugly cars is lame If it had a 700hp v12 yeah, I would lol
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Mar 13, 2023 21:32
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Whole lotta angry posting about a car/brand you "don't care about" ITT.
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Mar 13, 2023 21:34
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seeing a group of people laughing and joking, and muttering to myself "they must actually be mad"
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Mar 13, 2023 21:43
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Motronic posted:I did read your posts. That's why I asked. So to put a fine point on it I think that: He's a Ferrari mechanic and he gets to work on them and drive them, so I would guess that maybe he likes them because of that. Wasn't too hard to figure out lol. I didn't realize so many AI goons hate Ferraris 
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Mar 13, 2023 22:45
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I didn't realize so many AI goons hate Ferraris If it looks like a mom-mobile with a fancy badge, why should they like it? Haven’t they said that Enzo would spin in his grave should Ferrari make a SUV? And then they did lol
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Mar 13, 2023 22:50
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I wasn't talking about the SUV, it seems like a lot of hate in general for the brand. The SUV isn't awesome but I don't think it's necessarily terrible either, it looks bland but I'd like to see how it performs tbh
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Mar 13, 2023 22:57
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slidebite posted:Cool cars are cool. Uncool cars are not cool. Given the last few decades, the butt ugly is implied when you say Ferrari. Edit: Applebees Appetizer posted:I wasn't talking about the SUV, it seems like a lot of hate in general for the brand. It's because Ferraris are basically bro-trucks for hedge fund managers and Ferrari has been catering to that audience. MrLogan fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Mar 13, 2023 |
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Mar 13, 2023 23:16
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I wasn't talking about the SUV, it seems like a lot of hate in general for the brand. MrLogan posted:It's because Ferraris are basically bro-trucks for hedge fund managers and Ferrari has been catering to that audience. There's that (car jewellery for rich assholes) but for me I more or less just don't give a poo poo about newer Ferrari as there's not much that is actually "special" or insane about them and hasn't been for a long while. The shine was lost on me the moment I saw just how parts bin they really were - that comment about begin WTF'ed seeing Lancia Beta parts is literal, I recognized the switches and water bladder. Now dont get me wrong I'll do .... things..... to drive a F40 and if I had the money no brainer I would find a way to own one and there's a bunch of older Ferraris I also love. The new ones? I wouldn't say I hate them other than the Ferrari Prolapse or whatever the gently caress the SUV is called, I just don't give a drat about them. It's only BMW's I have a burning hatred for and I'll admit it s a irrational burning hatred.
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Mar 13, 2023 23:35
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Applebees Appetizer posted:He's a Ferrari mechanic and he gets to work on them and drive them, so I would guess that maybe he likes them because of that. Wasn't too hard to figure out lol. Again, I've yet to see anyone say they hate Ferraris in this thread recently. I think plenty of people including me have stated their feelings about the kind of person who is a modern Ferrari customer, i.e. the target market they are chasing. But it seems you haven't quite been able to make the distinction between those things. The SUV is a sell out joke and Ferrari has been a joke for quite a while now. See above post for more context, I don't need to repeat what Cat said very well.
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Mar 13, 2023 23:54
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If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, the only cool Ferrari is an old Ferrari. I think at this point the 458 is newest Ferrari that's old enough to be kind of cool.
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Mar 14, 2023 00:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCPa4gpS6Xw Jesus Christ that first clip 
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Mar 14, 2023 00:09
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:There's that (car jewellery for rich assholes) but for me I more or less just don't give a poo poo about newer Ferrari as there's not much that is actually "special" or insane about them and hasn't been for a long while. The shine was lost on me the moment I saw just how parts bin they really were - that comment about begin WTF'ed seeing Lancia Beta parts is literal, I recognized the switches and water bladder. An F430 is an old car. Did you say you drove a F430 Challenge? That is literally a non-road legal race car. Or did you mean a 360 Challenge? Which is an even older car.
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Mar 14, 2023 00:11
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:It's only BMW's I have a burning hatred for and I'll admit it s a irrational burning hatred. There's nothing irrational about hating whatever the gently caress BMW has turned itself into.
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Mar 14, 2023 00:14
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The question is since all the flexing middle managers are buying Teslas now can I own an Audi without feeling bad?
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Mar 14, 2023 00:15
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCPa4gpS6Xw It’s a fruitless effort but I always ask myself what the loving thought process is behind these decisions. loving spray foam on a control arm? What the actual rear end?
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Mar 14, 2023 00:24
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BigPaddy posted:The question is since all the flexing middle managers are buying Teslas now can I own an Audi without feeling bad? They've certainly replaced them as the make that most wants to race me at every single stop light.
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Mar 14, 2023 02:07
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Motronic posted:Again, I've yet to see anyone say they hate Ferraris in this thread recently. I think plenty of people including me have stated their feelings about the kind of person who is a modern Ferrari customer, i.e. the target market they are chasing. But it seems you haven't quite been able to make the distinction between those things. I understand the distinction that's why I clarified it, I couldn't care less about what you like and don't like tbh. I just think it's funny 
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Mar 14, 2023 02:34
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Q_res posted:If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, the only cool Ferrari is an old Ferrari. I think at this point the 458 is newest Ferrari that's old enough to be kind of cool. The 456 and 550 were so, so beautiful. The high point in (from what I can gather) driveable, useable high-end European GTs. Understated class with V12 power. gently caress, the 456 variants even look great. Shame the wagons were never made for more than the one customer, regardless of cost.
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Mar 14, 2023 03:15
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCPa4gpS6Xw worse than that are those brake lines, holy moly
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Mar 14, 2023 07:29
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Raluek posted:worse than that are those brake lines, holy moly And the one with a 37" tire on one wheel and a 34" on the opposite side. 
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Mar 14, 2023 08:49
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If I had a 700HP V12 I'd be a little bit annoyed at the engineers and why they couldn't get more power out of it while pointing at some random JDM 1000HP 6cyc hero lol
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Mar 14, 2023 09:57
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Humphreys posted:If I had a 700HP V12 I'd be a little bit annoyed at the engineers and why they couldn't get more power out of it while pointing at some random JDM 1000HP 6cyc hero lol Or that Aussies made a sport turning a true rarity - a decent driving SUV - into one and done 400Kw sleepers that would eat the Ferrari Prolapse alive. Ew. Anyway moving along...... The other decent driving SUV is actually bloody good offroad, goes actual hard around a track, tows the race car or the horse float and while you could say a Porsche Cayenne is also a status kiddie hauler it's undeniably a Good Thing which is loving rare as gently caress for a CUV or SUV. I keep getting told I should buy a Macan Turbo as it's about the closest thing you can get to a Forester XT new these days because I'm not entirely against crossovers, just the majority of the half assed lovely ones that plague the roads today. Bring back the fast wagon 
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Mar 14, 2023 11:14
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Or that Aussies made a sport turning a true rarity - a decent driving SUV - into one and done 400Kw sleepers that would eat the Ferrari Prolapse alive. Can't ever not love that rear end. I hate the VE sedan but the Sportwagon has my heart and wallet. VFs and RSs can get the gently caress outta here! VE Billion Dollar Babies for me!
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Mar 14, 2023 11:42
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That thing is 90% of the way to being a honda odyssey
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Mar 14, 2023 11:49
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Scratch Monkey posted:That thing is 90% of the way to being a honda odyssey Mods?!?! Edit: Wait do you mean the Ferrari or the Commodore BuckyDoneGun fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Mar 14, 2023 12:20
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Scratch Monkey posted:That thing is 90% of the way to being a honda odyssey That's true of SUVs in general.
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Mar 14, 2023 12:27
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I still think about this one time when a SUV driver let me turn right into stationary traffic in front of them from a sidestreet with a stop sign onto a busier road during afternoon commute traffic. They could have easily pulled forward into the "KEEP CLEAR" section and left me sitting there and they did not. It was at least 10 years ago and I still remember it because generally SUV drivers are complete twats. All SUVs suck, not just the Ferrari ones
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Mar 14, 2023 12:36
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Did truly awful drivers exist pre-SUV or were bad drivers made worse by the 'power' of a particularly tall steel box? 'cos there's a LOT of them about these days.
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Mar 14, 2023 13:44
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Did truly awful drivers exist pre-SUV or were bad drivers made worse by the 'power' of a particularly tall steel box? 'cos there's a LOT of them about these days. Bad drivers have always existed, but I think the same hyper-individualism and ego-stroking that gave birth to the "rugged outdoors independent REAL WORK safety unstoppable tank" image of SUVs has resulted in shittier behavior on the roads. Driving like an idiot in a 60hp hatchback is one thing, doing the same in a giant heavy 300+hp SUV with bad visibility is something else entirely. Physics will always catch up to you. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Mar 14, 2023 14:43
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I daily drive a plug in Prius but I do like having the RAV4 for occasional 4wd snow needs and that its able to tow a light 5x10' trailer. I found that this made it far more capable and useful for our needs vs the old truck I used to have. Not generally an SUV fan in general but I do like having a small one for decent internal storage capacity vs a large sedan for example. I suppose a station wagon would be just as good and to me its not much different from a minivan other than its smaller which is fine since Im not using it to haul around multiple kids with carseats etc anyway.
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Mar 14, 2023 14:52
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How are you going to kill the enemy driver in an accident with that mentality? your engine block wouldn't even be at the same level as their face
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Mar 14, 2023 15:01
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Did truly awful drivers exist pre-SUV or were bad drivers made worse by the 'power' of a particularly tall steel box? 'cos there's a LOT of them about these days. Bad drivers have always existed, but for a while (later 70's to mid 00's or so) cars weren't as large, so it was less obvious when your lane was being crowded by someone. Also cell phones give way more people an excuse not to pay attention to the road. That's my opinion on it anyway.
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Mar 14, 2023 15:04
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Here are all the reasons americans changed to SUVs over wagons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TuEWtXBT_0
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Ether Frenzy posted:How are you going to kill the enemy driver in an accident with that mentality? your engine block wouldn't even be at the same level as their face Heh. Fair point. Jokes aside, I feel less bad driving a 4cyl SUV around at least. If Toyota made a decent wagon that was actually possible to find I'd happily just use that instead. No complaints for the RAV4 (2018) so far though. It's very no frills and just soldiers along without issue.
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Mar 14, 2023 15:15
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That Works posted:Heh. Fair point. hosed up that Toyota won’t sell the Corolla Touring Sport out here. Look at all that space and that panoramic roof. 
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Mar 14, 2023 15:47
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Mill Village posted:hosed up that Toyota won’t sell the Corolla Touring Sport out here. Look at all that space and that panoramic roof. Sigh... yeah if I could get that one to tow a super light trailer I'd be set.
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Mill Village posted:hosed up that Toyota won’t sell the Corolla Touring Sport out here. Look at all that space and that panoramic roof. I've never wanted a Toyota before... I drive a wagon, so I try to drive nice to give wagon's a good name. I also drive a BMW, so sometimes I need to drive like a jerk.
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