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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

so he did not lead in rpm. who did ?

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kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

euphronius posted:

as I said it does not weight center defense well at all which is the Achilles heal of all stats based on boxes

this is not how it works. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/10740818/introducing-real-plus-minus

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

oh it was also jokic in 2022

throw it out . garbage

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



indigi posted:

I didn’t realize Kawhi was playing so much this year. figured the Clips would be a higher seed if he played ~50

i predicted the clippers as winning the title in zogo's SAS prediction poll lol

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

euphronius posted:

so he did not lead in rpm. who did ?

do you think it's some "gotcha" that embiid led in RPM? he was a great per-minute player. by that stat, embiid produced more per-minute, jokic added more wins to his team. are you seeing this numbers for the first time?

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I tend not to look at garbage stats

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
guys check out THIS stat [shows a screenshot of stats]

wait it says jokic is good. i'm sorry i'm sorry how do i delete a post in Edge

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

euphronius posted:

I tend not to look at garbage stats

YOU POSTED IT!

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

you got it

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

the nuggets were garbage last year

there is no way jokic was the best player in the league. it’s absurd on its face

he’s playing much better this year and look the nuggets are better

shocking

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Shear Modulus posted:

i predicted the clippers as winning the title in zogo's SAS prediction poll lol

they never got a center. bad choice

indigi
Jul 20, 2004
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Shear Modulus posted:

i predicted the clippers as winning the title in zogo's SAS prediction poll lol

to be fair if PG and Kawhi are fully healthy they have at least a shot against anyone

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

kingcobweb posted:

YOU POSTED IT!

lol you think euphronious reads his own posts

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

euphronius posted:

the espn ones match up to what I’ve been seeing more or less . they seem ok

no one knows how they calculate them tho

rpm is rotations per minute OP

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

indigi posted:

to be fair if PG and Kawhi are fully healthy they have at least a shot against anyone

Against anyone without a center maybe

indigi
Jul 20, 2004
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nobody has one

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
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jokic is getting pnr blitzed by the raptors and is down 20

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Toronto with 49 points in a quarter drat

TDepressionEarl
Oct 28, 2010


I'm trying to win the World Cup
but I'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps playing Argentina onside


saw the raptor centers and power forwards score in the paint and thought of this thread

TDepressionEarl
Oct 28, 2010


I'm trying to win the World Cup
but I'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps playing Argentina onside


i will con tinue to think of this thread if jokic scores forty on seventy percent

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
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Stupid raptors playing like dogshit every second half letting the nuggets come back

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
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nvm the nuggets are still gonna lose first round of the 2023 nba playoffs

BrownPepper
Dec 30, 2017
Stats are business brain imo. Not everything can be solved with a made up predictive model. though maybe if we applied an AI solution...

Should have watched Bucks/Kings last night. I missed a good game and a fight

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

indigi posted:

what's rpm and DONT give me a cute joke answer

revolutions per minute

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

BrownPepper posted:

Stats are business brain imo. Not everything can be solved with a made up predictive model. though maybe if we applied an AI solution...

Should have watched Bucks/Kings last night. I missed a good game and a fight

there are good replay websites . one was posted above

I use https://nbahdreplay.com

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

skipmyseashells posted:

Stupid raptors playing like dogshit every second half letting the nuggets come back

not tonight !

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

here are some raptors offensive highlights if you like the ‘tors. https://streamable.com/j1cdye

BrownPepper
Dec 30, 2017

euphronius posted:

there are good replay websites . one was posted above

I use https://nbahdreplay.com

thank you this looks dope.

TDepressionEarl
Oct 28, 2010


I'm trying to win the World Cup
but I'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps playing Argentina onside


i hold it in my mind simultaneously that jokic is 3xMVP but denver won't make conference finals until they get a true center

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

ok i just ran the numbers and created an advanced stat for this thread, called the jokic score. it compares how statistically similar every player in the nba is to the greatest player, nikola jokic. i think its clear from this stat that jokic is still a clear frontrunner for mvp. heres the top 20 players

Jokic Score
Nikola Jokic - 30000
Domantas Sabonis - 23857.63642
James Harden - 22085.17346
LaMelo Ball - 21683.43991
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 21569.20145
Ja Morant - 20951.21599
Pascal Siakam - 20856.52181
LeBron James - 20778.86194
Julius Randle - 20683.17991
Luka Doncic - 20530.92537
Anthony Davis - 20239.23922
Trae Young - 19851.98419
Tyrese Haliburton - 19715.90143
Karl-Anthony Towns - 19602.42439
Zion Williamson - 19162.00449
Paul George - 18626.15552
Kyrie Irving - 18450.47064
De'Aaron Fox - 18389.40922
Nikola Vucevic - 18358.95512
Jayson Tatum - 18338.42577

TDepressionEarl
Oct 28, 2010


I'm trying to win the World Cup
but I'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps playing Argentina onside


yes i've always known trae young was secretly the 12th best player in the nba

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

TDepressionEarl posted:

yes i've always known trae young was secretly the 12th best player in the nba

trae young's score would improve a lot if he got more rebounds or scored fewer points. those are the biggest things bringing his score down

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

TDepressionEarl posted:

yes i've always known trae young was secretly the 12th best player in the nba

numbers don't lie

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

fart simpson posted:

ok i just ran the numbers and created an advanced stat for this thread, called the jokic score. it compares how statistically similar every player in the nba is to the greatest player, nikola jokic. i think its clear from this stat that jokic is still a clear frontrunner for mvp. heres the top 20 players

Jokic Score
Nikola Jokic - 30000
Domantas Sabonis - 23857.63642
James Harden - 22085.17346
LaMelo Ball - 21683.43991
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 21569.20145
Ja Morant - 20951.21599
Pascal Siakam - 20856.52181
LeBron James - 20778.86194
Julius Randle - 20683.17991
Luka Doncic - 20530.92537
Anthony Davis - 20239.23922
Trae Young - 19851.98419
Tyrese Haliburton - 19715.90143
Karl-Anthony Towns - 19602.42439
Zion Williamson - 19162.00449
Paul George - 18626.15552
Kyrie Irving - 18450.47064
De'Aaron Fox - 18389.40922
Nikola Vucevic - 18358.95512
Jayson Tatum - 18338.42577

Yeah this is bullshit. KAT should be at 19931.06811 here, minimum. This is why I rely on AJS (Adjusted Jokic Score).

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

euphronius posted:

here are some raptors offensive highlights if you like the ‘tors. https://streamable.com/j1cdye

Jokic getting torched highlights are getting posted on Reddit after every Nuggets game now. The magic might be fading.

TDepressionEarl
Oct 28, 2010


I'm trying to win the World Cup
but I'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps playing Argentina onside


nice guy giannis pretends to be bad at free throws to give fans free fast food

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Vox Nihili posted:

Jokic getting torched highlights are getting posted on Reddit after every Nuggets game now. The magic might be fading.

spurs killed his mvp 3peat campaign lmao

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



i think a lot of the nba personalities wanted an excuse to not give it jokic again and they found it

BrownPepper
Dec 30, 2017

TDepressionEarl posted:

nice guy giannis pretends to be bad at free throws to give fans free fast food

the people’s champ

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Just give Giannis the MVP. I don't know if he's actually the best player this year but he's looking unstoppable heading towards the playoffs with the Bucks sitting at the 1 seed and that's good enough for me. He should get a third one at some point and this is as good a time as any, his style of play probably isn't going to be sustainable into his thirties.

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