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I love Paul Keating, I'm sorry but he's right most of the time actually. By that I mean all he comments on is superannuation and foreign policy and I'm yet to disagree with him.
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Lmao at calling Australia the Haunted House of Asia 
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Mar 15, 2023 07:04
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A spectre is haunting Asia. The spectre of dumb cunts.
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Mar 15, 2023 07:13
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Ranter posted:A spectre is haunting Asia. The spectre of dumb cunts. th...thread title?
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Mar 15, 2023 08:29
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I feel it's a bit poo poo to lump Labor as the decision makers for subs... they may support it, may not behind closed doors, but this AUKUSward policy technically is a Liberal policy and if we were to renege or walsh on the deal like we did with the French subs we'd be better off financially until we weren't due to souring of relations. Can you imagine Joe Biden forgetting Albo's name whilst his moist spittle hits a camera man and he then for some reasons hugs a woman just too tightly after calling Australians welchers? I'm here for the hijinx, but a more precarious position couldn't be found even if Penny Wong were to come out and say the USA is a developing nation.
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Mar 15, 2023 08:53
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Tbh if there was a time to pivot away from ANZUS and build stronger relationships with our regional trading partners, it was during the 9 years when the Liberals were expressly not doing that thing. Buying subs is still kinda broke brained, but tbh any military hardware investment we make is tokenistic at best at this point.
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Mar 15, 2023 09:15
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Blaming Australia buying submarines for defence "destabilizing" the region is like saying Ukraine provoked Russia by having pro NATO policies. Basically you're full of poo poo and gently caress Chinese imperialism. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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23 Skidoo posted:I feel it's a bit poo poo to lump Labor as the decision makers for subs... they may support it, may not behind closed doors, but this AUKUSward policy technically is a Liberal policy and if we were to renege or walsh on the deal like we did with the French subs we'd be better off financially until we weren't due to souring of relations. It's a good point although I do feel part of the reason for AUKUS is that the US/UK subs will not need re-fueling compared to French nuclear subs (which reportedly we could have had) and Labor was very strident on this point of no nuclear processing in Aus. Not 100% sure if that was part of the Lib/Nat government compromise or just made it easier for the Coalition to try and help out their mate Johnson in the UK. Separately, I find a bit laborious the concern trolling about a few hundred tonnes of nuclear waste in 2050 being even a consideration. Fly ash dams are chock full of more nuclear waste exposed to the elements than ever will come from a mature nuclear industry. The nasty substances that are part and parcel of rare earths ore processing is a reason why all the processing is done in China. That is the price of doing business but a few hundred tonnes of waste in 2050 from a 350 billion dollar killing machine program is a remarkable bogeyman.
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Mar 15, 2023 09:17
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Pleasant Friend posted:Blaming Australia buying submarines for defence "destabilizing" the region is like saying Ukraine provoked Russia by having pro NATO policies. Basically you're full of poo poo and gently caress Chinese imperialism. Ranter posted:dumb cunts.
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Mar 15, 2023 09:18
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Hmm, yes, the better thing to do is have no military and just be best buds with China, that is surely not the plan of a willful moron. Plus it's cheaper!
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Mar 15, 2023 09:22
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(It was not in fact cheaper when China decides to do a Russia because there was no deterrence.)
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Mar 15, 2023 09:24
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Paul Keating weighs in on divisive "Persona 5 Best Waifu" issue.
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Mar 15, 2023 09:37
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if we're going to be US auxiliaries it's a bit poo poo that we have to pay for the equipment, IMO. especially at the expense of every remaining scrap of our welfare state.
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Mar 15, 2023 09:48
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Can any other new south welsh people find a voting site on the nsw electoral commission website or does it say there's no election happening?
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Mar 15, 2023 09:49
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Pleasant Friend posted:Hmm, yes, the better thing to do is have no military and just be best buds with China, that is surely not the plan of a willful moron. Plus it's cheaper! dumb oval office (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 15, 2023 09:50
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Ok ok, maybe we should just weight up which country is more culturally aligned to figure out who is a better international partner. America - Democratic Capitalists. China - Totalitarian Capatalists America - World leaders in LGBTQ+ rights, same sex marriage, major ruling party advocates for pro trans rights. China - criminalizes and deters queer activists. America - Historic promoters of women rights, vice president is female. China - women comprise 8% of leadership positions in Communist Party. America - disgusting history of racism, imperialism and genocide that people are allowed to call out and many influential people are trying to address. China - Disgusting history of racism, imperialism and genocide and makes you apologize for pointing out their ongoing racism, imperialism and genocide, with government efforts to increase all three categories. America - You're allowed to criticize the government, you're allowed to make lovely pooping dog toys of the president if you want. China - Go to jail for criticizing the government. Yes, I see I was wrong, clearly Australia is more aligned with China than I thought!
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Mar 15, 2023 10:01
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Oh look it's rapeface, summoned from the peaks of Kunlun.
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Mar 15, 2023 10:03
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For real tho China is good because they buy all our rocks and poo poo and we are rich as gently caress because of them, so we should probably help them out when the time comes to take all the microchips and poo poo.
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Mar 15, 2023 10:06
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Pleasant Friend posted:Ok ok, maybe we should just weight up which country is more culturally aligned to figure out who is a better international partner. dumb oval office
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Mar 15, 2023 10:08
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crepeface posted:dumb oval office Please offer rebuttal.
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Mar 15, 2023 10:09
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JBP posted:Please offer rebuttal. You first
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Mar 15, 2023 10:16
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Its a shame Paul Keating took all that money from the Chinese government as chairman of the state-owned China Development Bank. You see he was just so passionately genuinely pro-China after he left office he *wanted* to advocate for China for *free* but they insisted on giving him a sweet lucrative sinecure and now people unfairly think he's biased.
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Mar 15, 2023 10:17
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Ranter posted:You first Are you his minder? That's sweet and also very necessary. Pleasant Friend posted:Its a shame Paul Keating took all that money from the Chinese government as chairman of the state-owned China Development Bank. You see he was just so passionately genuinely pro-China after he left office he *wanted* to advocate for China for *free* but they insisted on giving him a sweet lucrative sinecure and now people unfairly think he's biased. Pretty sure the dude just loves China.
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Mar 15, 2023 10:32
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Hasn't the United States thing lately been backtracking on all the civil right stuff?
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Mar 15, 2023 10:33
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the most salient argument for forming a defensive pact with the us is that if we are scared of being invaded by a belligerent foreign power its statistically more likely to be them than it is china so we might as well lick their boots
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Mar 15, 2023 10:36
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thatbastardken posted:if we're going to be US auxiliaries it's a bit poo poo that we have to pay for the equipment, IMO. especially at the expense of every remaining scrap of our welfare state. America would station subs, bombers, ICBMs, troops, whatever, here in a heartbeat if we asked them to. They'd probably still make us pay for them though.
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Mar 15, 2023 10:41
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As if we wouldn't offer to pay for them.
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Redezga posted:Hasn't the United States thing lately been backtracking on all the civil right stuff? Bigly. Astonishingly even.
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Non Compos Mentis posted:Can any other new south welsh people find a voting site on the nsw electoral commission website or does it say there's no election happening? https://elections.nsw.gov.au/elections Just put your address in and it’ll give you a list/map view of polling places & early voting centres
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Mar 15, 2023 11:01
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wow how long has it been since IWC showed up here
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ShoeFly posted:https://elections.nsw.gov.au/elections oh i had to click on the state district, council and ward were both saying there wasn't an election within 30 days
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crepeface posted:dumb oval office Never have two words contained more truth. Ranter posted:A spectre is haunting Asia. The spectre of dumb cunts. Anidav please do the needful. The thread title needs you.
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Mar 15, 2023 11:42
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Keating tearing the SMH a new arsehole over their dogshit propoganga was cathartic. Him dunking on Aukus and Britain for being generally poo poo, only being interested in us funding their weapons dealers was good. He also disclosed he only took 5k as a formality for being on the chair. Take that what you will. At least he broke down his reasons for his position, saying we could have 40 odd Colins replacements and having 1/3 out in water in defensive positions would be more beneficial to stop a non existent Chinese invasion than a few subs off China's coast. Britain and the United States are dog water countries. He was right to poo poo on them. Maybe we can plug these subs into the grid and drop the price of electricity a bit eh? Redezga posted:Hasn't the United States thing lately been backtracking on all the civil right stuff? With gusto
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Paul Keating keeps beating on about "security in Asia" but kind of ignores China's expansion with the South China Sea with is causing major hostility with all the countries in the area against China. Asia isn't some sort of monolithic bloc. I linked this a while ago that explains how Australia's defense posture is thought on a geopolitical scale. Also Paul Keating doesn't speak for all of Asia and the reactions have been mixed about the sub deal from different Asian countries.
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Paul Keating was Australia's Tony Blair and stanning for him because he makes some lovely anti-american remarks is this thread showing its full rear end.
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Mar 15, 2023 12:05
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we really should have made new subs called the Holt class
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Pleasant Friend posted:Paul Keating was Australia's Tony Blair and stanning for him because he makes some lovely anti-american remarks is this thread showing its full rear end. Have you ever though about that
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Budzilla posted:Paul Keating keeps beating on about "security in Asia" but kind of ignores China's expansion with the South China Sea with is causing major hostility with all the countries in the area against China. Asia isn't some sort of monolithic bloc. I linked this a while ago that explains how Australia's defense posture is thought on a geopolitical scale. Also Paul Keating doesn't speak for all of Asia and the reactions have been mixed about the sub deal from different Asian countries. A good read - goes someway to explaining why we have purchased the subs rather than a purely defensive product.
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Budzilla posted:Paul Keating keeps beating on about "security in Asia" but kind of ignores China's expansion with the South China Sea with is causing major hostility with all the countries in the area against China. Asia isn't some sort of monolithic bloc. I linked this a while ago that explains how Australia's defense posture is thought on a geopolitical scale. Also Paul Keating doesn't speak for all of Asia and the reactions have been mixed about the sub deal from different Asian countries. China has no expansionist policies whatsoever, these are merely holiday resorts for visiting PLA troops. -- Paul "Nine-dash" Keating, probably
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