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Russia could be picky as well, the reason they aren't is because their institutions are dysfunctional and their populace disengaged, not because they've run out of people.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:24
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Dandywalken posted:200k vs 120k casualties doesnt sound as one-sided as people are acting it is. Nobody said it's been one-sided the entire war. It was 1:1 for a good while because Russia got the jump on Ukraine
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Mar 15, 2023 16:26
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This war isn't astounding because Ukraine is spanking Russia, it astounding because they can even hold their ground at all.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:34
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Yeah, it's important to remember that Ukranian casualties are going to be severely frontloaded to the first months of the war. When Kyiv was under siege, the lines to protect Kherson collapsed and all the NATO equipment hadn't arrived yet.Borscht posted:This war isn't astounding because Ukraine is spanking Russia, it astounding because they can even hold their ground at all. Very much this. There's major realignment of geoplotical power going on right now and it has taken everyone by surprise.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:35
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Captain Fargle posted:Yeah, it's important to remember that Ukranian casualties are going to be severely frontloaded to the first months of the war. When Kyiv was under siege, the lines to protect Kherson collapsed and all the NATO equipment hadn't arrived yet. I think its the other way around. In the first months of the war, the Russians got stuck in the mud, had miles-long traffic jams, entire battalions getting trapped and destroyed to the last man. Now, the Ukrainians are being massively outshot in artillery without the opportunity to outmaneuver the Russians like they've had before, and Western artillery production hasnt increased enough to close the gap.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:42
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OctaMurk posted:I think its the other way around. lmao
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Mar 15, 2023 16:45
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OctaMurk posted:I think its the other way around. It's hard to say, I've seen figures around 100-120k thrown around but Ukraine never released anything officially As much as any single loss of life is a tragedy, on strategic sense it's just what it is. I don't think the North Vietnamese were going to stop fighting because of their poor k:d ratios.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:47
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It's the same for the people screaming about how Ukraine is sending conscripts with little or no training and limited equipment to the front 'just like Russia." it's horrible and inconceivable but it must be necessary to protect themselves from an existential threat. since Kherson, the afu have been barely holding back the tide of invasion. The Russians send untrained men to their deaths because they're (questionably competent) imperialists who truly do not care about the lives of their fighting men. They could simply leave and not needlessly end the lives of some random guy they pulled off the street in Saratov.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:49
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OctaMurk posted:Now, the Ukrainians are being massively outshot in artillery without the opportunity to outmaneuver the Russians like they've had before, and Western artillery production hasnt increased enough to close the gap. Not to the degree Russia would've been able to at the beginning of the war. And its unlikely Russian production is going to outpace US/EU production. Most of Russia's artillery is concentrated, they don't have the same coverage they did previously and are even not doing fire missions as often.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:49
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The only thing russia is ahead on any more is "major powers who's president has poo poo his pants". Their military is a joke, absolutely hollowed out to a paper tiger state by corruption. If this was against nato we'd quite literally be looking at losses on russias side equivilent to gulf war one owing to the difference in materiel quality, becsuse thats the level of equipment they're using now. Quite literally 60:1 numbers on tank losses, for instance.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:50
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Both sides likely took very heavy losses in the first weeks. In the opening hours, Ukrainian barracks were being hit with cruise missiles, border posts hit with artillery, and regular Ukrainian units were being cut off and reduced. At the same time you had Russian riot police doing thunder runs in to major cities, Russians driving single file in to ambushes, the Gostomel debacle. Then in the next few days you had Ukrainian National Guard and all manner of militia taking horrendous losses trying to stop mechanized Russian troops with little more than AK-47's and RPG 7's when many of them hadn't seen service since their mandatory conscription in the 90's. Meanwhile the Russians were abandoning equipment because of breakdowns, soldiers surrendering because they were lost, being ambushed and annihilated in city and town streets.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:50
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mobby_6kl posted:OTOH Russia's had the artillery advantage almost the whole time, but they seemed to be forced to tone it down recently. And they're throwing more men at fortified positions than before. 100-120k is what was recently thrown out by the UK intelligence agencies and if we are going to trust their numbers and whatnot for other stuff there's no reason to not trust that one.* Ukraine hasn't released any real, significant info on the matter. *arguably it's more trustworthy then their figures on Russian casualties because they are working with Ukraine so in theory they can cut through some of the bullshit.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:52
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OctaMurk posted:I think its the other way around. Not really, no. Russia hasn't been able to reestablish complete artillery dominance since HIMARS was deployed; they have a clear edge, but what you describe was still a fairly early phase of the invasion, between the retreat from Kyiv and the Kharkiv offensive. Last fall there were estimates that both sides were probably somewhere around 100k casualties pretty close to each other. If that was reasonably accurate then 120k vs. 200k now would mean that it's literally been 5:1 since then. Of course, all these estimates might as well be written on toilet paper; who knows if we'll ever have a clear and accurate picture of casualties on each side.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:53
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Drone_Fragger posted:The only thing russia is ahead on any more is "major powers who's president has poo poo his pants". Tired: Putin poop jokes Wired: drone golden showers
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Mar 15, 2023 16:53
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quote:Wagner Group launches Pornhub ad campaign to attract new recruits
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Mar 15, 2023 16:58
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Borscht posted:Tired: Putin poop jokes New conspiracy theory: the drone only got pee'd on by the russian jets because they knew Trump was in the Drones pilot cabin back in the states.
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Mar 15, 2023 16:59
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I can't tell if this is a stroke(  ) of genius or laughably desperate and terrible.And/or if pornhub is suddenly going to get cut off from Russia, or a reasonable facsimile thereof.
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Mar 15, 2023 17:01
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Drone_Fragger posted:New conspiracy theory: the drone only got pee'd on by the russian jets because they knew Trump was in the Drones pilot cabin back in the states. I will piss on a Russian Hind for revenge. Where's my Rip-its?
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Mar 15, 2023 17:02
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Borscht posted:Where's my Rip-its? Ahhh, memories...
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Mar 15, 2023 17:03
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Borscht posted:I will piss on a Russian Hind for revenge. Where's my Rip-its? Brb, trying to get contracted by raytheon to build a surface to air pissile.
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Mar 15, 2023 17:04
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So amazing only 7,000 of their core members are now left alive and Russian MoD actively pinches their new recruits for their own battalions. Nice bravado they still got going on here.
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Mar 15, 2023 17:04
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Borscht posted:It's the same for the people screaming about how Ukraine is sending conscripts with little or no training and limited equipment to the front 'just like Russia." it's horrible and inconceivable but it must be necessary to protect themselves from an existential threat. since Kherson, the afu have been barely holding back the tide of invasion. The Russians send untrained men to their deaths because they're (questionably competent) imperialists who truly do not care about the lives of their fighting men. They could simply leave and not needlessly end the lives of some random guy they pulled off the street in Saratov. It's the scenario I think most sober headed people were predicting in the run up to the war: Ukraine is defending themselves against an existential threat and has an absurd advantage in terms of material and support. While Russia can just keep throwing bodies into the country until every Ukrainian drowns, choking on Russian blood. Russia might have gotten their teeth kicked in harder than everyone expected on that first month, but they can keep shoveling Russian corpses into the fire for a long time.
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Mar 15, 2023 17:06
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https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1636010025444335617 "Ukraine are the ones losing materiel to smuggling" turned out to be projection again after all. 
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Mar 15, 2023 17:18
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mobby_6kl posted:OTOH Russia's had the artillery advantage almost the whole time, but they seemed to be forced to tone it down recently. And they're throwing more men at fortified positions than before. Paraguay lost half its population - not half its troops or soldiers, half its entire POPULATION - before it stopped fighting the Paraguayan War against Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay. If you want to fight hard enough casualties only matter when you literally run out of men (Paraguay is thought to have lost up to 90% of its military-age men and up to 70% of its total male population)
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Mar 15, 2023 17:28
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mobby_6kl posted:Wh*ck off, apply for a job with the Wanker Group FTFY
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Mar 15, 2023 17:40
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The problem with assessing paraguay numbers is that there are only few censuses of the population before and after the war, and none of them are reliable or particularly consistent with each other. Scholars vary from 7% to 70% deathrate largely depending on which ones they pick to believe
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Mar 15, 2023 17:43
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EorayMel posted:I can't tell if this is a stroke( Pornhub is based out of Quebec. Ersatz Russian pornhub replacement incoming.   
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Mar 15, 2023 17:46
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Pekinduck posted:Pornhub is based out of Quebec. Ersatz Russian pornhub replacement incoming. Sexy and that's it, inspired by their knockoff Mickey D's replacement
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Mar 15, 2023 17:46
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Tunicate posted:The problem with assessing paraguay numbers is that there are only few censuses of the population before and after the war, and none of them are reliable or particularly consistent with each other. Scholars vary from 7% to 70% deathrate largely depending on which ones they pick to believe Either way if you're talking double digit percentages of your population dead these are Bad Times for you, even if the real figures aren't as high as some sources say, that's an absolutely ballistic amount of dead people
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Mar 15, 2023 17:50
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Borscht posted:I will piss on a Russian Hind for revenge. Where's my Rip-its? You wouldn't believe the mental pictures I'm getting out of this post
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Mar 15, 2023 17:55
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*superman theme; riding a pillar of piss toward the eastern horizon*
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Mar 15, 2023 17:56
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mobby_6kl posted:Dont wh*ck off You lost me
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Mar 15, 2023 17:57
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Karate Bastard posted:*superman theme; riding a pillar of piss toward the eastern horizon* This but its superman 64
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Mar 15, 2023 18:00
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1636010025444335617 Speaking of which, if russian propaganda is trying really hard to sell to me that UA is so desperate for manpower that they're ripping random people from the streets...
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Mar 15, 2023 18:04
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Since the dawn of the DC comic era, many have asked the same question. In this 732 page treatise once and for all this thorny issue will be put to bed and the question finally answered: Could superman cut a russian jet in half like a water jet cutter with his piss stream?
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Mar 15, 2023 18:05
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https://twitter.com/Seveerity/status/1636036787742076928
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Mar 15, 2023 18:09
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zone posted:e: A new recruitment drive for another 400,000 mobiks has been issued in Russia. Where did the last 300,000 go? They're just out of frame, having a great time.
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Mar 15, 2023 18:10
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zone posted:Sexy and that's it, inspired by their knockoff Mickey D's replacement Alright I have our most attractive troll farm employees, a newer iPhone and a list of popular categories. We go live in a week.
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Mar 15, 2023 18:11
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Just noticed that the post office has a sweatshirt with the raccoon that the russians stole from the zoo:  It's around $20 here: https://postmark.ukrposhta.ua/index.php?route=product/product&path=120&product_id=1531
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Mar 15, 2023 18:12
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The war video game room and war merch on the same page is definitely some dystopian poo poo
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Mar 15, 2023 18:19
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