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She's so great. Maybe they could send her back to the 2380s to ham it up with the Lower Decks crew.
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Beeftweeter posted:i mean sure, but they could just impersonate someone else that is in a position of power after observing them for a while? it seems pretty dumb that a changeling wouldn't do that, honestly, unless the section 31 virus also made them all incompetent They could easily just murder everyone in every high office, it'd be the easiest thing in the world when you can literally be any item anywhere And the federation would probably collapse without ANY leadership, or at least change pretty hugely
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Mar 14, 2023 16:26
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A changeling impersonates the Federation president to pass a law making it illegal for donkeys to be in bathtubs Then the changeling impersonates a donkey in the bathtub at Picard's estate! Picard is arrested and we get a trial episode! Bonus points to get star trek fan Eddie Murphy to voice the donkey changeling...
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Mar 14, 2023 16:57
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And in the morning, I'm gonna make gagh!
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Mar 14, 2023 16:58
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Tars Tarkas posted:A changeling impersonates the Federation president to pass a law making it illegal for donkeys to be in bathtubs Yeah but then the changeling just accidentally impersonates an eighth grader in a suit that he thinks is the president, and the whole plan falls apart.
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Mar 14, 2023 17:47
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One thing that is sloppy writing was how they had Shaw lay out the challenge thing for the Changeling to Seven. It makes it sound like they're all incompetent at espionage instead of, y'know, this one had their cover blown and hasn't had time to research their new identity.
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Mar 14, 2023 21:01
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Gaz-L posted:One thing that is sloppy writing was how they had Shaw lay out the challenge thing for the Changeling to Seven. It makes it sound like they're all incompetent at espionage instead of, y'know, this one had their cover blown and hasn't had time to research their new identity. Well it's also clumsy because later in the episode they come up with a much better way to bait out the Changeling and it works. I feel like that means there are two options: 1) they wrote the dumb 'challenge' thing and then realised they couldn't work out how to get Seven and Shaw in the room with the Changeling, so added the smarter bait trap; 2) they had the smart bait trap but then thought that the audience wouldn't understand why Seven was shooting Laforge, so the challenge got added. I refuse to contemplate that someone put both things into the script at the same time.
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Mar 14, 2023 21:49
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Bridge blast doors are down on those pics Dave Blass tweeted of the Intrepid. I suspect the entire ship is compromised hence the episode title. Giving me Olympic Carrier vibes from Battlestar.
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This dumb motherfucker is now getting irritated at his own lore consultant guy who’s just doing the same thing he does for every episode in all his twitter posts https://twitter.com/terrymatalas/status/1636076439111098368?s=46&t=6BcOzYzSHp7RCRYf1EhwEA https://twitter.com/terrymatalas/status/1635734127923314688?s=46&t=6BcOzYzSHp7RCRYf1EhwEA Like, you literally hired him to feed you prop and continuity minutiae for your show, my dude. He’s listed in the credits!
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Mar 15, 2023 23:04
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You just pop into the local psychic painter’s studio and feed them the residual psychic gunk from your brain via telepathy (it’s not hard guys!)
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Mar 15, 2023 23:07
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Also the psychic painter? The Bus Punk!
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Mar 15, 2023 23:10
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Make a good Star Trek show, Terry Matalas (it’s not hard guys!)
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This dumb motherfucker is now getting irritated at his own lore consultant guy who’s just doing the same thing he does for every episode in all his twitter posts Why is Terry so god drat sensitive about this stuff? He needs to log off.
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Tars Tarkas posted:Also the psychic painter? The Bus Punk! Just where is your vision, the things you've done and said Let's just push the button, and get you painted Cause I paint you And I portray you! And I can't wait to depict your hue
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Mar 15, 2023 23:13
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Matalas seems like he might have been created by the holodeck in a scene like the one from schizms.
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Nichael posted:Why is Terry so god drat sensitive about this stuff? He needs to log off. Imagine literally being a credited part of the show and just doing your completely benign usual thing on twitter and then being quote-tweeted by your former boss being a public pissbaby because he mistook your tweet for a criticism.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Imagine literally being a credited part of the show and just doing your completely benign usual thing on twitter and then being quote-tweeted by your former boss being a public pissbaby because he mistook your tweet for a criticism. It's insane. I don't get what the angle is here besides some kind of public breakdown.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This dumb motherfucker is now getting irritated at his own lore consultant guy who’s just doing the same thing he does for every episode in all his twitter posts Isn't it a long standing Hollywood tradition though to hire long-time fans IPs as "lore masters", utterly ignore them at every juncture, and then go "Wait who the gently caress are you?" to them when they point stuff out on their own private unpaid time? Pablo Hidalgo as Star Wars' lore master is like the 0.0000000001% exception to the rule.
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Nichael posted:It's insane. I don't get what the angle is here besides some kind of public breakdown. Matalas has been having an on going public meltdown/slap fight with randos on Twitter since he took over the show from Chabon in 2021. I'd start calling him Terry Mentalas, but that's insulting to people with actual mental health issues.
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TV IV > Modern Star Trek Megathread: Terry's Strange New Picard Twitter Meltdown
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Jörg is also like one of the nicest guys on Star Trek twitter and seems to genuinely enjoy every show. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him post anything more negative than an extremely gentle ribbing or light joke at a reference or prop.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Jörg is also like one of the nicest guys on Star Trek twitter and seems to genuinely enjoy every show. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him post anything more negative than an extremely gentle ribbing or light joke at a reference or prop. It's the Donald Trump style "If you're only loyal to me 99.9% of the time, then you're useless to me" line of thinking. Then again, I've seen Matalas take whacks at people who are even more effusive about modern Trek than Jörg is. Remember the guy who was like "Uuuh, sir, it's a little weird that you're hanging around with all these publicly out and proud bigots, I still love you though, sir." and Matalas's response was basically "Smithers, find that man's dog and crucify it on his front lawn before sundown."
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Jörg is also like one of the nicest guys on Star Trek twitter and seems to genuinely enjoy every show. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him post anything more negative than an extremely gentle ribbing or light joke at a reference or prop. Seriously, he's one of the most laid-back people in the entire fandom. (I still think it's a minor miracle he hasn't strangled Bernd to death by now.) nine-gear crow posted:Isn't it a long standing Hollywood tradition though to hire long-time fans IPs as "lore masters", utterly ignore them at every juncture, and then go "Wait who the gently caress are you?" to them when they point stuff out on their own private unpaid time? Pablo Hidalgo as Star Wars' lore master is like the 0.0000000001% exception to the rule. Not just Hollywood. Cloud Imperium Games eventually fired LOAF, and he's the biggest Wing Commander / Chris Roberts nerd in the world (both figuratively and literally). Timby fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Mar 15, 2023 |
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Timby posted:Seriously, he's one of the most laid-back people in the entire fandom. (I still think it's a minor miracle he hasn't strangled Bernd to death by now.) It's like some sort of "There must always be a Lich King" dealio where in order for Ex Astris Scientia to exist, it MUST by co-ran by a guy who loves all of Star Trek unconditionally, and a guy who literally came out of the womb mad at Star Trek for existing.
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nine-gear crow posted:Matalas has been having an on going public meltdown/slap fight with randos on Twitter since he took over the show from Chabon in 2021. I'd start calling him Terry Mentalas, but that's insulting to people with actual mental health issues. Terry Meltdownass?
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Jörg is also like one of the nicest guys on Star Trek twitter and seems to genuinely enjoy every show. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him post anything more negative than an extremely gentle ribbing or light joke at a reference or prop. Yeah, it's kind of uncomfortable seeing Jörg in particular deal with this.
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CPColin posted:Terry Meltdownass? Winner.
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"The bucket has to be the same as Odo's for the plot point to work!"  Or maybe you could come up with some other way of exposing the Changeling that isn't quite so forced and also doesn't ignore later DS9 when Odo stopped using the bucket? I dunno, I'm not a professional writer - oh wait, I am. (Also, nobody on the Titan ever saw Odo's bucket, so it's even more dumb and unnecessary to have to flag it up so obviously.) How mad do you have to get on the Internet to show your rear end in public like that? C'mon, don't point out that you had to crowbar something in to make your story work.
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picard writers room whiteboard UNCOVERING CHANGELINGS -Punch it? -use a picture duh (its not hard!) -Riker saw it in a dream -cute dog barks at them (Geordis dog) -Jack crusher can smell changelings -bucket?
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You forgot: Angrily quote tweet Jorg for no reason.
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The Guinan painting is dumb, but like, who cares. The Odo bucket thing is just sloppy because you could easily have had it be any container. Shaw explains 'hey, they'll probably have a vase or something to sleep in', you show Seven wave her tricorder at a vase and Jeri Ryan make a 'eureka' face, and boom, the audience will get it. You can still even have the PADD show Odo's bucket if you want!
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Dude very much needs to let his show talk for itself instead of leaping into the fray as soon as an episode airs, because he's pretty bad at speaking on it's behalf
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Gaz-L posted:The Guinan painting is dumb, but like, who cares. The Odo bucket thing is just sloppy because you could easily have had it be any container. Shaw explains 'hey, they'll probably have a vase or something to sleep in', you show Seven wave her tricorder at a vase and Jeri Ryan make a 'eureka' face, and boom, the audience will get it. You can still even have the PADD show Odo's bucket if you want! That’s what’s bizarre about it. It’s a one line script tweak in the action. Matalas is fundamentally wrong about it needing to be Odo’s bucket for it to work. In fact, it takes more mental gymnastics to justify it being an exact replica - it’s easier for it to just be any old container. It’s like he went specifically out of his way to gently caress that up. 
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If it were me, I'd have put the Guinan Nexus painting in there SPECIFICALLY as a troll on people to make them go "Wait, why does Guinan have a painting of herself in her bar of a moment between her and Picard that 1) took place in an altered plane of existence and 2) that she wasn't even actually there for and has no memory of because Picard was interacting with an echo of her consciousness left behind in the Nexus" to which my response would be a big ol' poo poo-eating "YEAH! COMPUTE YOURSELF TO DEATH NERD! LOL  "But that's just me. I'm a dillhole, but unlike Terry Matalas I'm at least a funny dillhole.
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I mean shows and movies using production stills and screen caps of episodes as set dressing has been a thing forever. I’m fairly certain Jörg has pointed it out before. It’s just an easter egg and a production convenience. There’s zero need to get all weirdly defensive of it, doubly so if you’re literally the showrunner.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I mean shows and movies using production stills and screen caps of episodes as set dressing has been a thing forever. I’m fairly certain Jörg has pointed it out before. It’s just an easter egg and a production convenience. Hell, just last year the Book of Boba Fett used a literal piece of Return of the Jedi concept art of Luke visiting Jabba the Hutt as comedy prop in part of its signature slip and slide screwball low speed chase sequence. People pointed it out and everyone went "lol". And that was it. And that was loving Star Wars Fans, the canonically worst excuses for human beings in existence short of Actual Nazis and there's a lot of Actual Nazis who are also Star Wars Fans out there too 
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HD DAD posted:That’s what’s bizarre about it. It’s a one line script tweak in the action. Matalas is fundamentally wrong about it needing to be Odo’s bucket for it to work. In fact, it takes more mental gymnastics to justify it being an exact replica - it’s easier for it to just be any old container. It's not even a script tweak. It's literally a prop change. If the episode was identical, but the prop Ryan pulls out of the hidden alcove is a random vase, NOTHING changes.
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I don't think Matalas is being defensive or mad at Jorg. I think he's probably reading all the negative tweets citing it and felt compelled to make a snarky tweet.
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Gaz-L posted:The Odo bucket thing is just sloppy because you could easily have had it be any container. Shaw explains 'hey, they'll probably have a vase or something to sleep in', you show Seven wave her tricorder at a vase and Jeri Ryan make a 'eureka' face, and boom, the audience will get it. You can still even have the PADD show Odo's bucket if you want! I did appreciate the bucket's hiding place being a callback to the overloading phaser in "Elaan of Troyius".
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xerxus posted:I don't think Matalas is being defensive or mad at Jorg. I think he's probably reading all the negative tweets citing it and felt compelled to make a snarky tweet. It read a little snarky to me, too. Still, he needs to stop explaining his show.
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