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armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts

Pablo Bluth posted:

Comedy option: FSB agent bought home an NLAW as a war trophy and was showing it off.

They got jealous of the Polish chief of police, clearly.

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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Deki posted:

I thought Florida was the destination of choice for guys like that

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1636367675785121799

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVDyoCWz0vM

this scene but played backwards

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1636378403459981316
Estonia is sending a fair bit of kit to help arm Ukraine's snipers.

DiomedesGodshill
Feb 21, 2009

mobby_6kl posted:

Yet more footage is leaking out

https://i.imgur.com/e21hBLC.mp4

Oh, it's beautiful!

Any word on the fate of the plane?

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

DiomedesGodshill posted:

Oh, it's beautiful!

Any word on the fate of the plane?

Supposedly it landed with some damage but of course the russians deny it

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1636385490185355268
New german aid package dropped.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Five thousand shells is about half a day worth, btw.

Set
Oct 30, 2005
The war has not been good for womens rights in Russia, as the government has only increased policies that are hostile to women since the beginning of the war. Human rights activists have rung the alarm, but there is not much they can do at the moment. There are multiple embedded links to sources within the article if you are interested in reading deeper into the topic.

Author: Elsa Osipova
Release date: 08.03.23
Link to untranslated article:https://yle.fi/a/74-20021444

quote:

The war of aggression is ruining the position of women in Russia - activists fear that next the Kremlin will ban abortions to increase the population

According to activists, the weakening of the status of women and minorities during the war is a continuation of the misogynistic policy that Russia has systematically practiced in recent years.

The war of aggression in Ukraine has weakened the status of women in Russia.

On Women's Day, March 8, more than ten Russian activist groups published their petitions to end the war and improve the status of women in the country.

The effects of the war reach all parts of society, but women in particular have to suffer from the arbitrariness of the administration. For example, the war has increased the threat of violence in families, poverty in families with children, political oppression and inequality in working life, the activists write.

Activists are afraid that the warring Russian state will now show by example that the practice of violence is acceptable, in which case women, children and sexual minorities will become the victims of violent behavior more and more often.

Domestic violence is one of the most common forms of violence in Russia. In 2017, the country's administration changed its legislation so that abuse of a child or spouse within the walls of the home is no longer punished.

Groups promoting women's issues have been demanding changes to the law for years.

The restriction of abortion rights is frightening

Sending men as cannon fodder to the front can weaken Russian women's right to self-determination, activists fear.

Russia has long suffered from a low birth rate. The country's population is shrinking and in 2022 Russia's birth rate was the lowest since 1943-1944, when the majority of men fought in World War II.

In January, President Vladimir Putin ordered the government to solve the problem of the shrinking population together with the Russian Orthodox Church.

Instead of the government proposing an end to the war to save lives, the Kremlin hinted at restricting the right to abortion.

The government proposed that the right to abortion should be removed from the scope of public healthcare. If the decision enters into force, in the future abortions would only be available in private clinics, which would significantly reduce the availability of the procedure.

The Kremlin believes such a policy would encourage women to have more children.

Activists note in their appeal that Russia's demographic problems have nothing to do with abortions, but rather poverty and wars that kill people.

Because of the war, equality in working life has been set back

Numerous sectors of the economy have suffered as a result of the war started by Russia and the sanctions imposed by Western countries.

Sanctions have created 12 percent inflation, which has eaten away at people's ability to pay. The weakened economic situation in Russia especially affects service industries, such as the beauty, cleaning, restaurant and tourism industries, where many women of different ages and backgrounds work.

In addition, in 2022, a legal basis for discrimination against transgender people in the labor market was created in Russia, when transgenderism was added to the list of psychiatric "disorders".

In practice, the increase means that a transgender person cannot work in public organizations, such as a teacher or civil servant.

The mobilization is reflected on women and children

Activists oppose the Kremlin's efforts to militarize society from kindergarten up. For example, they demand the abolition of the so-called "patriotic classes".

The Kremlin introduced the new subject in September. The classes teach, among other things, patriotic values.

The partial mobilization affects the life of every Russian. According to activists, the mobilization has enormous social and economic consequences. It destroys families and takes away children's right to their father.

Many Russian men have been forcibly conscripted and sent to the front against their will.

At the same time, the responsibility of supporting the family falls exclusively on women. According to statistics, every fifth Russian child grows up in a family where the salary is not enough to live on. It is feared that the number of families living in poverty will increase in the future.

Women suffer the consequences of political activism

Since 2022, Russian law enforcement authorities have started to persecute women activists more and more often. Women have been punished especially for expressing anti-war opinions.

For example, in Chechnya, Dagestan, Sakha, Buryatia and Tuva, women have resisted the mobilization and war.

According to activists, in addition to police violence, women are threatened by gender-based violence. In addition to home searches, arrests and torture, women who oppose the war may be subjected to sexual violence or threats. In addition, the authorities often threaten women with child custody.

The war weakened the position of disabled women

After the start of the war, the life of disabled women in Russia began to deteriorate. This is primarily due to the fact that Russian soldiers injured in the war put a strain on services for the disabled.

The Russian government has promised military invalids tangible compensations and benefits, for example to get prostheses and medicines, but at the same time it has left other disabled people to their own luck.

On its own initiative, Russia has cut off cooperation with many countries that produced, for example, prosthetic technology.

Forced to become migrants

According to activists, many Russian women who oppose the war have had to leave their homeland to protect their families from oppression and violence.

For example, many pregnant women leave Russia to give birth to their children in a country where the political climate is not as harsh as in Russia.

In the appeal of an organization that helps refugees, they are also concerned about the situation of women fleeing Ukraine.

More than two million border crossings were made between Russia and Ukraine in 2022, but there is no information on how many of those who crossed the border were refugees and how many were forcibly displaced.

The majority of Ukrainian refugees are women and children.

According to activists, the situation of Ukrainians forcibly transferred to Russia can be compared to victims of human trafficking.

EasilyConfused posted:

Thanks for this. Russian and Belorussian human rights activists still working in their home country are some of the bravest folks out there.

Yeah, I can't even imagine how stressful the situation must be for them right now. They were heroes to begin with, but daring to continue with their work today is truly amazing.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

I'd love to read about the Belarusian partisans. I'm sure so much is just non existent on Western media outlets. The heroism is wild

I have an article about Belarusian soldiers fighting on the Ukrainian side of the war, that I'll translate soonish. I would not be surprised if there is a overlap between these groups, but I also have a feeling we won't really know what is going on with the partisans before the war is over and even then maybe not before Belarus itself has gotten rid of Lukachenko.

Pot Smoke Phoenix
Aug 15, 2007



Smoke 'em if you gottem!
Dinosaur Gum
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-...ign=position_01

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland’s president said Thursday that his country plans to give Ukraine around a dozen MiG-29 fighter jets, which would make it the first NATO member to fulfill the Ukrainian government’s increasingly urgent requests for warplanes.

President Andrzej Duda said Poland would hand over four of the Soviet-made warplanes “within the next few days” and that the rest needed servicing and would be supplied later. The Polish word he used to describe the total number can mean between 11 and 19.

“They are in the last years of their functioning, but they are in good working condition,” Duda said of the aircraft.

He did not say whether other countries would follow suit, although Slovakia has said it would send its disused MiGs to Ukraine. Poland also was the first NATO nation to provide Ukraine with German-made Leopard 2 tanks.

On Wednesday, Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller said some other countries also had pledged MiGs to Kyiv, but he did not name them. Both Poland and Slovakia had indicated they were ready to hand over their planes, but only as part of a wider international coalition doing the same.

tiaz
Jul 1, 2004

PICK UP THAT PRESENT.


Zelensky's Zealots

CommieGIR posted:

Long and short, the drone isn't much of a loss, and next time it'll likely be escorted. The idea that Russia would waste any time on bringing it down is a laughable waste.

I do find it strange just how much tolerance we have for hostile foreign powers hot dogging around our aircraft and damaging them, like that Chinese pilot who downed a P-3 Orion at the cost of his own aircraft (and probably life). I get that it's materially different if it's an actual shootdown with guns or missiles - and our response would be very different if it was - but it's still a downed aircraft because of them doing something.
I mean, I'm not advocating that we do large escalation about it especially for an outdated unmanned drone, but still.


Set posted:

The war has not been good for womens rights in Russia, as the government has only increased policies that are hostile to women since the beginning of the war. Human rights activists have rung the alarm, but there is not much they can do at the moment. There are multiple embedded links to sources within the article if you are interested in reading deeper into the topic.

Author: Elsa Osipova
Release date: 08.03.23
Link to untranslated article:https://yle.fi/a/74-20021444


Yeah, I can't even imagine how stressful the situation must be for them right now. They were heroes to begin with, but daring to continue with their work today is truly amazing.

:smith:
I remember reading Seeing Like A State at some point and it feels like all too often trying to see things that way is a means to launder cruelty.

Bernard McFacknutah
Nov 13, 2009

tiaz posted:

I do find it strange just how much tolerance we have for hostile foreign powers hot dogging around our aircraft and damaging them, like that Chinese pilot who downed a P-3 Orion at the cost of his own aircraft (and probably life). I get that it's materially different if it's an actual shootdown with guns or missiles - and our response would be very different if it was - but it's still a downed aircraft because of them doing something.
I mean, I'm not advocating that we do large escalation about it especially for an outdated unmanned drone, but still.


I think that needs to be qualified by saying, that drone was actively assisting in gathering intel and probably actual targeting data that enables Ukraine to annihilate Russians in a manner that wouldn't be possible without either a Western drone or spy plane flying in the black sea saying 'you can't touch me, you can't touch me.' It's snooping on phone and radio signals and that ends up with stuff like the Makiivka strike where 600 Russians got slaughtered because they refused to turn their phones off.

Imagine what would have happened if a Russian drone had been flying in the Persian Gulf in 2003 feeding targeting information to Iraqi Silkworm batteries firing at American warships.

Liquid Chicken
Jan 25, 2005

GOOP

zone posted:

Anyone that invests a certain sum into property in Brazil can acquire their citizenship. Brazil also has no extradition agreements with anyone else.

Soon it will be time to set up Mossad II.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Bernard McFacknutah posted:

I think that needs to be qualified by saying, that drone was actively assisting in gathering intel and probably actual targeting data that enables Ukraine to annihilate Russians in a manner that wouldn't be possible without either a Western drone or spy plane flying in the black sea saying 'you can't touch me, you can't touch me.' It's snooping on phone and radio signals and that ends up with stuff like the Makiivka strike where 600 Russians got slaughtered because they refused to turn their phones off.

Imagine what would have happened if a Russian drone had been flying in the Persian Gulf in 2003 feeding targeting information to Iraqi Silkworm batteries firing at American warships.

We probably wouldn't have targeted it, but the bigger difference is the Persian Gulf was an active declared war zone, Ukraine and the sea of Azov not so much because Russia has actively refused to declare it as such.

Russia has absolutely no say in what happens in international waters or international airspace.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

Bernard McFacknutah posted:

I think that needs to be qualified by saying, that drone was actively assisting in gathering intel and probably actual targeting data that enables Ukraine to annihilate Russians in a manner that wouldn't be possible without either a Western drone or spy plane flying in the black sea saying 'you can't touch me, you can't touch me.' It's snooping on phone and radio signals and that ends up with stuff like the Makiivka strike where 600 Russians got slaughtered because they refused to turn their phones off.

Imagine what would have happened if a Russian drone had been flying in the Persian Gulf in 2003 feeding targeting information to Iraqi Silkworm batteries firing at American warships.

The Makiivka strike was not so much triangulating radio or phone signals as it was the matter that School no. 19 was turned into an obvious looking military base with loads of armored vehicles, tanks, weapons, etc. and a fuel depot rigged up nearby. Any of the locals could tell what the place was. And many still have pro-Ukrainian sympathies. The pipeline would basically have been collecting information at the ground level and then confirming it with pictures/video/signals over the course of time. Also knowing that the entire lot would be listening to Putler's new year address and thus all gathered in one place also helped. And then on top of that, the Russians made the mistake of storing a massive amount of ammo, shells, and rockets in the basement. As it happened, one of the HIMARS missiles exactly hit this ammo dump, which resulted in a chain reaction that annihilated the building, the motor pool, and the nearby fuel dump. As Strelkov put it, everything there was a complete loss. Nothing could be recovered, not even the possessions of the mobiks.

tiaz
Jul 1, 2004

PICK UP THAT PRESENT.


Zelensky's Zealots

Bernard McFacknutah posted:

I think that needs to be qualified by saying, that drone was actively assisting in gathering intel and probably actual targeting data that enables Ukraine to annihilate Russians in a manner that wouldn't be possible without either a Western drone or spy plane flying in the black sea saying 'you can't touch me, you can't touch me.' It's snooping on phone and radio signals and that ends up with stuff like the Makiivka strike where 600 Russians got slaughtered because they refused to turn their phones off.

Imagine what would have happened if a Russian drone had been flying in the Persian Gulf in 2003 feeding targeting information to Iraqi Silkworm batteries firing at American warships.

granted but I think we'd start by saying "knock it off or we're shooting it down" and then do that rather than play baby's first formation aerobatics unannounced

e: I don't mean to dogpile, I hadn't seen the other replies that made this point better. I appreciated your post :)

tiaz fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Mar 16, 2023

Victis
Mar 26, 2008

tiaz posted:

granted but I think we'd start by saying "knock it off or we're shooting it down" and then do that rather than play baby's first formation aerobatics unannounced

e: I don't mean to dogpile, I hadn't seen the other replies that made this point better. I appreciated your post :)

If there’s no meaningful response why not gently caress with US drones? What are they gonna do, sanction more

Clearly the US is loathe to escalate, especially on behalf of a flying robot

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Just saw that a map was released

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/mq-9-sensor-video-showing-collision-with-russian-su-27-released

There's no way the drone was providing any targeting data from there. Send in the F-22s.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

To note, countries toe the line with military planes in international airspace all the time. They fly near a border, the other guys send planes out to let them know they see them, and that's just how the game works. Even before this, Russian pilots were generally notorious for being a bit more slipshod when it comes to this dance.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

The_Franz posted:

To note, countries toe the line with military planes in international airspace all the time. They fly near a border, the other guys send planes out to let them know they see them, and that's just how the game works. Even before this, Russian pilots were generally notorious for being a bit more slipshod when it comes to this dance.

Yes but a) That's nowhere near the border (the closest of which is Ukrainian anyway) and b) that never involves dumping fuel on top of another aircraft

This is really bizarre (and "unprofessional", lol) behavior

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1636412788334792705
8 archers are on the way. This should help to further accelerate artillery losses.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

jet fuel piss tape real

Scam Likely
Feb 19, 2021

Equip drones with powerful laser pointers to blind people that harass them. It works for China in the SCS.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1636383318177357826
Don't quit your day job, your jokes are so old and stale they'd probably make Lenin laugh in his mausoleum if he heard them.

numptyboy
Sep 6, 2004
somewhat pleasant

Bernard McFacknutah posted:

I think that needs to be qualified by saying, that drone was actively assisting in gathering intel and probably actual targeting data that enables Ukraine to annihilate Russians in a manner that wouldn't be possible without either a Western drone or spy plane flying in the black sea saying 'you can't touch me, you can't touch me.' It's snooping on phone and radio signals and that ends up with stuff like the Makiivka strike where 600 Russians got slaughtered because they refused to turn their phones off.

Imagine what would have happened if a Russian drone had been flying in the Persian Gulf in 2003 feeding targeting information to Iraqi Silkworm batteries firing at American warships.

Its lucky we dont have to imagine this sort of thing:
The ussr supplied intelligence to argentina during the falkland islands campaign showing exactly where the brittish fleet was and its progress to the islands.
FSB offering bounties on coalition soldiers in iraq.
Ussr supplying arms to vietnam

All are forms of 'you can't touch me, you can't touch me.' all while actively supporting an enemy.

Its fine to point this sort of thing out, but its not some one sided affair where the west is never on the receiving end and its some kind of hypocritical situation - the only reason why silworms werent being targeted to US ships, in your example, is because the Russia was not capable of this and they didnt get along with Iran at the time.

numptyboy fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Mar 16, 2023

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



The_Franz posted:

To note, countries toe the line with military planes in international airspace all the time. They fly near a border, the other guys send planes out to let them know they see them, and that's just how the game works. Even before this, Russian pilots were generally notorious for being a bit more slipshod when it comes to this dance.

They are notorious for constantly and intentionally violating other countries' airspace. They've also set up a jamming station on an island as close to Southern Finland as possible and have been using it to disrupt commercial planes flying in and out of Finland. They've been in the "loving around" phase for a long time and it's high time they find out.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1636403915750096909
Strelkov with a report on the status of the front. Long story short, another mass of people dead and equipment lost for minor tactical gains near both Avdiivka and Bakhmut, with a bitter remark on Shoigu and Gerasimov not being allowed even the most insignificant of victories.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1636450410067099648
And Wagner have some caustic remarks on the "defensive" lines built up in the hopes of making things more complicated for Ukraine to regain its territory. Long story short, they're basically dogshit and all the mistakes that were made in the building were outlined in the post.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
This single minded drive to take Bakhmut is pure insanity.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Lol civilians building the trenches sooo it's being fleeced for capitalism.


Half the reason they lose the war is because of hyper capitalism and lying.


Just desserts for the fledgling fascist empire

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Lol civilians building the trenches sooo it's being fleeced for capitalism.


Half the reason they lose the war is because of hyper capitalism and lying.


Just desserts for the fledgling fascist empire

Don't worry russia will save us from neoliberalism 🤡

Punkinhead
Apr 2, 2015

HonorableTB posted:

This single minded drive to take Bakhmut is pure insanity.

Bakhmut could fall as I'm typing this post and it will still be a total loss for Russia. It doesn't even feel right calling it a pyrrhic victory for them after all this, it's just a loss.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

PinheadSlim posted:

Bakhmut could fall as I'm typing this post and it will still be a total loss for Russia. It doesn't even feel right calling it a pyrrhic victory for them after all this, it's just a loss.

At this point it'll be a phyrric victory if they do capture it. Its utterly destroyed and its bled the Russian army and Wanger for more than they are worth.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Seeing Terrorist Girkin be all sad about it makes the day worth living



I was just reading an article about F-22s and they had this tweet from last year embedded

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1552334619437154308

Did anything happen of those "tougher actions" lol. (rhetorical question)

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?
These guys wasted all their threats by dumping a billion tons of explosives on a neighboring country. Is there even anything left to escalate other than making another impotent nuke threat?

Punkinhead
Apr 2, 2015

They literally pissed on a reaper drone, how much tougher can you get????

zone
Dec 6, 2016

Pontificating rear end posted:

These guys wasted all their threats by dumping a billion tons of explosives on a neighboring country. Is there even anything left to escalate other than making another impotent nuke threat?

Solovyov will say twice as many mean words about the evil west and Skabayeva will nod along to his drivel twice as fast.
What? it didn't have to be a very good escalation.

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008


College Slice

PinheadSlim posted:

They literally pissed on a reaper drone, how much tougher can you get????
Putin needs to figure out a way to poop on a drone. Midflight.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Any updates on the status of current day Potemkin McDonald’s operations inside Russia? If they’ve moved up past outdoor uncovered storage of buns then I suspect the sinister hand of the heniken group in getting them back and functional. Personally I’d hope they are just down to offering the mcshrimp and a gluten flavour dipping sauce.

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zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1636440470426402841
New aid package announced soon. Please include something good as a slap in the face for the drone incident.

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