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I agree with the substance of your post but Jordan has never pretended to be anything but self interested
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Hell a lot of all-time great athletes get to where they are because they're self-interested to the point of being sociopathic.
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Mar 17, 2023 07:35
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Oh man this really sucks. This means that the bobcats could get wemby as a sweetener for the sale. This really fucks up my lottery fixing calculus
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Mar 17, 2023 08:58
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He was kinda not great for a stretch and I wouldn't go so far as to say he's BACK but Cam Payne is back and Doin' Stuff. https://twitter.com/BALLYSPORTSAZ/status/1636557959634337794
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Mar 17, 2023 09:52
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Intruder posted:I agree with the substance of your post but Jordan has never pretended to be anything but self interested I’m talking specifically about the time when he was playing for, I believe it was the wizards that the owner cried poor when talking to the players - I believe it was an attempt at union busting in some way - and Michael Jordan told him to either reach into his pockets and pay what the players were owed or sell the team. That or during his hof induction speech when he devoted specific time to calling out how the players produced the product and the owners should therefore, and happily, break out the pocketbooks to pay them what they are owed. Or the time he got pissed at Krause when he famously (and to be honest, correctly) said that players don’t win championships, organizations do, and held that grudge for decades as he kept arguing for player rights etc. and then he “allegedly” was pretty much the sole reason the 2011 lockout lasted as long as it did because he wanted to gently caress likeness royalties from the players in the CBA. He sold himself as a populist who was fixated on player rights up until the moment he owned the then-bobcats then immediately started betraying all of his supposed “ideals”.
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Mar 17, 2023 10:27
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I'd be interested in a NBA version of that NFLPA report that discussed the various amenities that teams offer or that teams charge for, and which ones probably charge players for meals and wi-fi and using the facilities in off season. It wouldn't shock me if the Hornets were doing some/all of the above. The only time I've ever heard of a coach refusing a promotion because of something he saw up close.
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Mar 17, 2023 11:23
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As a 90s kid, I can't deny Jordan is the goat on the court but I also remember how unnecessarily rear end in a top hat-ish he is. Most of my beef with Jordan is just him being an rear end and from NC. So everyone down here has heard a "jordan did some jerk poo poo" story from multiple people. I don't care to repeat the several I've heard of him being selfish and egotistical. Its a special kind of scorn one can have towards people they are the most similar. The 90s Hornets were beloved by the city and that's an unquestionable fact. George Shinn was a pissy baby owner that even as a kid I knew by name when I barely knew algebra. He moved the team to no one's surprise because the city wouldn't build him a new arena after having built one 10 years earlier. Nobody had expectations for Bob Johnson. Its strange to say it now, but people at the time thought that Jordan owning the team would confer some advantage. The city approached Jordan about building inroads with the community and I don't know all the details but Jordan was like gently caress you and that's why now no one cares about the team. Sure, the arena is good entertainment if you want to spend $$$ for a night "uptown" (natives don't call it that) but no one cares about the team. Maybe kids are the only real fans. As an aside, the panthers are super popular. They show up around the community and during football season, the support is felt. Its just a matter of money to hire someone to care but whatever, peace out you gold hording dragon. Go play golf and keel over in sand trap somewhere.
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Mar 17, 2023 12:32
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I mean I don't know what community inroads you're specifically looking for but Jordan spreads a lot of money around Charlotte area charities and the team itself has a pretty visible foundation And no one cares about the team because they've been bad for decades, not because Raymond Felton didn't show up to enough children's hospitals or whatever
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Mar 17, 2023 12:57
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morestuff posted:I mean I don't know what community inroads you're specifically looking for but Jordan spreads a lot of money around Charlotte area charities and the team itself has a pretty visible foundation
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Mar 17, 2023 13:04
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temple posted:And yet everyone loves the panthers I wonder how much of this is how marketable and cool Cam Newton was/is compared to nearly everyone who's played for the Hornets?
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Isentropy posted:I wonder how much of this is how marketable and cool Cam Newton was/is compared to nearly everyone who's played for the Hornets?
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Mar 17, 2023 13:24
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Alright man
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temple posted:And yet everyone loves the panthers and not a team that predated them with a greater legacy at the time. I could dig up the articles from 10 years ago but its doesn't matter. None of this matters when you will be like "but Jordan said he's really trying and ....... houston sucks too!" Weird thoughts. Maybe you could try responding to what he posted and not an argument you had with a person at work or whatever this is
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Mar 17, 2023 13:41
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DeimosRising posted:Weird thoughts. Maybe you could try responding to what he posted and not an argument you had with a person at work or whatever this is
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Mar 17, 2023 13:54
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Ja shooting straight to the top of NBA guys with embarassing old social media posts https://basketballforever.com/2023/03/16/someone-found-ja-morants-old-instagram-account-and-its-wild 
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Mar 17, 2023 13:58
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Kids posting song lyrics, shock horror
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Mar 17, 2023 14:03
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sorry you can't appreciate humor, you can go back to your deathly serious analysis of the legacy of governor joradn
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Mar 17, 2023 14:10
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Yeah you’re right, I’m just tired of the Ja poo poo
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Mar 17, 2023 14:15
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I think it's pretty weird to make fun of 13 year olds, both in this case and every time someone digs up an old tweet from a rookie.
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Mar 17, 2023 14:46
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How much does landing Wemby increase the value of a team, before he even steps on an NBA court? If the Hornets are worth $1.7b now, do they jump to $2b overnight if they win the lottery? $2.5b?
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Mar 17, 2023 14:49
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Jordan is super self-centered but probably less evil than most other owners. I just don't think he particularly wants to own a basketball team, the league kinda pushed him into it and made it such a good deal he couldn't say no. Let him sell, keep a minority stake so he can still site courtside at all-star games and have a "Role", and let a new owner come in and maybe bring some energy (or a fortune born on the back of the exploited working class).
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Mar 17, 2023 14:56
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Dynamite Dog posted:Ja shooting straight to the top of NBA guys with embarassing old social media posts 
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Lockback posted:Jordan is super self-centered but probably less evil than most other owners. I just don't think he particularly wants to own a basketball team, the league kinda pushed him into it and made it such a good deal he couldn't say no. yeah, I think the League is kinda letting him sell, because they know in like ~5 years Lebron is gonna own a team in LA lol.
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Mar 17, 2023 15:10
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I think it’s really incredibly weird to go through a child’s social media stuff
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i am a moron posted:I think it’s really incredibly weird to go through a child’s social media stuff Otoh that’s how we got titty kisser and the Andrew Bynum MySpace page
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I mean it’s out there, I don’t have a problem with people perusing it. I think it’s weird in the sense that kids are weird and they put weird poo poo on there and without any context (or the mind of an 11 year older or or whatever) it doesn’t make a lot of sense
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I can make cocaine
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Small domino: dorktown vid on the 2011-12 bobcats Huge domino: MJ looking to sell
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Dejan Bimble posted:Jordan being the better man is really a curveball But Jordan can't hit curveballs.
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forget cartilage transplants a Reiki has just hit the leaguequote:I’m a little bit worried that this whole thing is just one giant layer of public relations. The video was so bad that it required a maneuver from Ja, it required a maneuver from the Grizzlies and it required a maneuver from the NBA. The story coming out that Ja was in counseling and then he’s asked about it and he says he’s getting Reiki and anxiety breathing techniques. I wasn’t there so I don’t know, but that hit a little funny.
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By looking back at these old Ja posts, it gives you a view into the mind of the children that him and a group of 10 adults are picking fights with.
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Will Barton choosing the number 1 on joining the Raptors was him prophesying his avg made FG/game for the season.
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who is the poster child for zoomer athletes, ja or lamelo
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Carwash oval office posted:By looking back at these old Ja posts, it gives you a view into the mind of the children that him and a group of 10 adults are picking fights with. Seriously. He was a little wannabe troublemaker. You can tell by the way he omitted the a in the word “that” serially. Sick mind!
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Ammanas posted:who is the poster child for zoomer athletes, ja or lamelo Lamelo or ANT, Ja is a throwback
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Lockback posted:Lamelo or ANT, Ja is a throwback Ant is like the american zoomer giannis
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Mar 17, 2023 17:24
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Ant was very good as the villain in the Adam Sandler basketball movie.
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Agreed. I genuinely hated him for a minute after seeing that.
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The Chamillionaire story is still the most quintessential Jordan moment.
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https://uproxx.com/dimemag/deaaron-fox-sacramento-kings-offense-clutch-playoffs/ Great write up of the kings clutch off and spray the wonderful Mark Schindler
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