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The 7th Guest posted:RIP sylens but more importantly the guy from World is a gently caress.
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The 7th Guest posted:RIP sylens but more importantly the guy from Heard about this, what the gently caress
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Fifteen of Many posted:I just started Prey and the bit where you get a wrench and break your balcony window revealing a lab had me like Aw I’m so jealous! Remember to look up, lots of goodies in the rafters. Also, don’t believe the vague warnings, just get every neuromod power that sounds cool.
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Mar 17, 2023 23:18
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History Comes Inside! posted:Everyone raves about the 1 and 2 remakes and is super hype about 4, but I feel like nobody ever talks about 3 I guess. I loved it. It's my favorite RE and the only one I can see replaying anytime soon. But I'm not a megafan of the series fwiw veni veni veni posted:Honestly Mr. X was the low point of RE2 for me and I preferred how Nemesis was handled over him. Mr. X just got annoying after a while and felt like a step down from Jack in RE7 to me. At least once the novelty wears off. Mr. X is great for a bit but after the fourth time I'm taking a detour around the police station, because he decided to spawn where I need to go I start to really tire of him. It's the main reason why I didn't bother doing another run as Claire. Also, just way too much time spent in the dark with a flashlight compared to 3, not a good way to pay homage to the painstakingly rendered 2D backgrounds of the OG era games.
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Mar 17, 2023 23:42
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The 7th Guest posted:RIP sylens but more importantly the guy from 
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Mar 17, 2023 23:47
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At least for the purposes of the RE4 demo it legit doesn't matter if you burn through tons of ammo in the timed section since that's where the demo ends. And it's not like being "wrong" about the objective carries a significant penalty anyway, if anything that's more immersive (it's not like Leon went into it knowing the church bells would ring and everything would end either). It also wouldn't surprise me if this game had mechanics around giving you pity resources when you're low, a bit like how in The Last of Us even on Grounded difficulty you'd get a fairly high rate of resource drops from enemies if you were out.
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the first Forspoken-like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOFCDgA6a4M
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The 7th Guest posted:RIP sylens but more importantly the guy from I guess I'll eat more pizza.
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incorporeal posted:Game doing a number on you arguing about it on the internet is like a billion times more fun than actually playing it. i'm having a great time and i didn't even need to bother finishing the demo or paying for the full game. win win for me tbh History Comes Inside! posted:If you fight them for long enough you meet the criteria of the objective though, right? there are two options: - fight, use ammo and resources, git gud enough to stay alive long enough to win - run away, preserve ammo and resources; the game teaches you that avoiding danger/fighting is a "correct" way to play = sucky experience
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ShoogaSlim posted:there are two options: The whole point is its supposed to be a scenario that encourages you to do both of those things. Fight until you are forced to retreat, then reposition. The village is full of paths to let you get around the villagers.' You're being a dumb.
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PantsBandit posted:The whole point is its supposed to be a scenario that encourages you to do both of those things. Fight until you are forced to retreat, then reposition. The village is full of paths to let you get around the villagers.' Yeah, basically. I just played the demo and even more than in the original RE4 it's pretty blatantly impossible to even really make a dent in the number of enemies. The point is to make you feel desperate.
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It’s also a great spot to flex your infinite ammo muscle in NG+. 
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It’s almost as if it’s a survival horror game
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Like beneath all the suplexing and knife parries it’s still very much about resource management and fight or flight scenarios. Weighing your options in the heat of a desperate situation.
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man nurse posted:It’s almost as if it’s a survival horror game Next RE needs crafting and hunger / cold meters. Set it on an abandoned Umbrella research island. Put roving monsters and Mr. X in the woods. I'd play it. Randallteal fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Mar 18, 2023 |
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idk man it was not fun either way i played it and disappointing when a game provides an option of not actually playing it anyway sorry what you like is bad to me ill die on this hill unpacked and cozy games stay winning bc you have to actually play them lol
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One odd peculiarity is that English localizations have a tendencies of taking some creative liberties in rewriting, whereas other localizations like the FIGS languages tend to be "closer" to the original Japanese. I just played through it in French and the objective when the "timed" section starts was "survive the attack".
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Mar 18, 2023 00:13
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I don't know if it's still possible but tbh after my first playthrough of RE4 I would always just run back and forth between the barn and houses nailing ganados in the knees and powerbombing them until the sequence ended. Much simpler than running around to all the houses while the enemies are still active, but less exciting. I suspect I won't have as easy a time of it in the remake. It was real easy to line up shots and stun them in the old one.
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Arist posted:The point is to make you feel desperate. Succeeded, and I'm like, gently caress this game. I don't want to feel desperate. Anyway I might give it another shot at some point approaching it with the right mindset.
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Shooga, maybe people would respond more productively to you if you didn't describe "surviving" in a "survival horror" game as "not playing the game"
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BigDumper posted:For what it’s worth, the opening village segment in the original game is generally regarded as kind of a slog Who says this… I’ll end them
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Who says this… I’ll end them I have to admit I've never heard that anywhere before. The village sequence is so beloved they just fuckin' copied it in RE5 and 8.
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I'm so mad at not being able to deal with the opening section that I'm gonna buy the full game so I can blast everyone away with a handgun that hits like a gorilla once I get there on New Game +
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I mean cool, we get it, you don’t like survival horror games. Can you stop harping on and on about it and just move on and post about games you like or something? Like Theatrhythm is still really fun and the TWEWY DLC tracks just dropped and they’re pretty drat good and making me want to play the games! Pretty cool that the second game is being put on PSN+
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Mar 18, 2023 00:31
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I liked RE3 remake, but it's very much a rollercoaster you board and ride to the end, versus RE2 where it was more of an organic experience with MrX.
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The village part is pretty iconic and beloved, yes. I'm slightly upset that I forgot where the shotgun is when I played the demo.
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The true remake lineup is Remake, RE2make, Dead Space 2023, RE4make.
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Arist posted:I'm slightly upset that I forgot where the shotgun is when I played the demo. First time playing the demo I went up the stairs and panicked so much that I kept it off screen assumed it had been moved somewhere else  I'm on console; those auto aim settings are so drat powerful, goddamn.
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RareAcumen posted:I'm so mad at not being able to deal with the opening section that I'm gonna buy the full game so I can blast everyone away with a handgun that hits like a gorilla once I get there on New Game + I’m so pumped for literally exactly this. RE4 on GameCube was a game I could replay endlessly and the remake seems like it’s gonna scratch that old itch perfectly.
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The other thing with Resident Evil games is that they're mostly built as very literal survival games, especially on higher difficulties you are straight-up not provided with enough resources to actually kill everything, coupled with the enemies being super-tanky on these difficulties. On top of some of the games having a bullshit (or at least very hard but fair) higher difficulty that expects you to only experience it as a New Game+ and almost certainly as not your first blind playthrough of the game even if you're a series veteran, even on the lower difficulties you're usually more or less expected to actually run away from situations instead of outright fighting if you can work out a way to do so, especially since one of the series staples is being chased by some all-powerful entity that you can maybe stun but never outright kill, possibly paired with some avenues for actually hiding from them until the coast is clear (e.g. Mr. X in RE2 Remake patrols specific areas and can find out your location if you run/shoot, with the police station having a lot of choke points but very few actual dead ends, you're almost always able to actually take a long way around Mr. X somehow). Also, this RE4 Remake might be taking a different approach, but many of the others are actually designed to be played multiple times. Resident Evil 2 has four mostly-similar campaigns that have enough different between them to make things interesting, and once you know roughly where things are and how to get around you can zip through a playthrough in 2-2.5 hours.
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univbee posted:The other thing with Resident Evil games is that they're mostly built as very literal survival games, especially on higher difficulties you are straight-up not provided with enough resources to actually kill everything, coupled with the enemies being super-tanky on these difficulties. On top of some of the games having a bullshit (or at least very hard but fair) higher difficulty that expects you to only experience it as a New Game+ and almost certainly as not your first blind playthrough of the game even if you're a series veteran, even on the lower difficulties you're usually more or less expected to actually run away from situations instead of outright fighting if you can work out a way to do so, especially since one of the series staples is being chased by some all-powerful entity that you can maybe stun but never outright kill, possibly paired with some avenues for actually hiding from them until the coast is clear (e.g. Mr. X in RE2 Remake patrols specific areas and can find out your location if you run/shoot, with the police station having a lot of choke points but very few actual dead ends, you're almost always able to actually take a long way around Mr. X somehow). RE4make actually has S+ rankings which require you to do the game on a fresh save without using bonus weapons. It's pretty interesting as it makes the challenge more than just "equip rocket launcher, win."
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ImpAtom posted:RE4make actually has S+ rankings which require you to do the game on a fresh save without using bonus weapons. It's pretty interesting as it makes the challenge more than just "equip rocket launcher, win." RE2 is also like this. There's S rank but also S+ rank, and for S+ rank you're not allowed to use any of the "infinite ammo" unlockable weapons, have a time limit, and are limited to I think 3 saves (which speedrunners traditionally do before the major bosses of the game since all of them are spicy enough to either kill you or waste a ton of your resources if you get a little unlucky).
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Boy of Joy posted:I mean cool, we get it, you don’t like survival horror games. Can you stop harping on and on about it and just move on and post about games you like or something? I love reading a post that's like "my problem with these new shoes you all like is that I don't really like walking and maybe I don't even have feet." Ok great. Thanks for putting those words in front of me
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Who says this… I’ll end them ImpAtom posted:I have to admit I've never heard that anywhere before. The village sequence is so beloved they just fuckin' copied it in RE5 and 8. Really? I’ve definitely seen it in reviews of the game over the years. The gist of it is that you don’t have any upgraded weapons yet, which makes it one of the hardest segments in the game. I don’t really agree with it either, but I understand the sentiment.
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ImpAtom posted:I have to admit I've never heard that anywhere before. The village sequence is so beloved they just fuckin' copied it in RE5 and 8. "Slog" isn't the right word, but it's kind of an odd encounter to have when you're ten minutes into the game. You have to fight an enormous swarm of enemies when you're still getting used to the controls, in what's essentially an arena battle, and then once you make it through, you get to play the game you were expecting where you explore and complete objectives and just fight the monsters between point A and point B. It's also a pretty difficult sequence if you're not used to that kind of gameplay. I remember bouncing off once or twice back on the PS2 before it really clicked, and then once I finally got through it there wasn't a comparable difficulty spike through the entire rest of the game. It definitely makes sure you know the drat controls, though.
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The village fight was the subject of every preview in the runup to release and I was so hyped for it and when I finally played it I loved it. Just cannot relate one bit
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I’ve been trying to conquer GT7’s drag races but man they are bullshit. Sarah keeps telling me to “beat my opponent” but there’s no loving way. No matter how much I ram into him he seems to take no damage at all! He just happily rolls down the road until the sequence abruptly ends and then Sarah patronizing me about how I “almost caught him.” Whatever! A full speed slam into his side and he didn’t have a dent!
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I will definitely say that playing the village fight on the Wii with the motion controlled cursor is one of the best gaming experiences period, though. Leon becomes a golden god of perfect knee shots and suplexes.
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Phenotype posted:"Slog" isn't the right word, but it's kind of an odd encounter to have when you're ten minutes into the game. You have to fight an enormous swarm of enemies when you're still getting used to the controls, in what's essentially an arena battle, and then once you make it through, you get to play the game you were expecting where you explore and complete objectives and just fight the monsters between point A and point B. Yeah slog isn’t the right word, I’m still not sure what the right word to describe that section for a new player learning the game. Maybe “difficult” is enough to describe it? Which is strange because I don’t consider RE4 to be a difficult game by any means.
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