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My enjoyment of GOT skyrocketed after the series finale. Before it was a show with some really good elements and some really poo poo elements, but I've never seen such sheer contempt for an audience and its source material as D&D on S8. It's not even train wreck excitement, it's watching two men roll a Katamari ball of all the terrible poo poo they can grab in 6 hours and my god, they get everything. I can't possibly describe what a masterfully executed gently caress-up it is. You have to watch the whole show to earn that payoff. Oh my god, I love it.
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You Are A Elf posted:I mean this sincerely, but have you seen Soviet-era animation before? The aesthetic is spot-on here. Worker and Parasite were real, my friend. I watched the first 3 seasons and even by the end of that, it was getting kind of repetitive. Then it went on like another 8 seasons and by the end none of the original cast were still around except DARRYL and apparently the guy who executed and smashed the most likeable character's head in in front of everyone had somehow now become everyone's best friend???????
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Das Boo posted:My enjoyment of GOT skyrocketed after the series finale. Before it was a show with some really good elements and some really poo poo elements, but I've never seen such sheer contempt for an audience and its source material as D&D on S8. It's not even train wreck excitement, it's watching two men roll a Katamari ball of all the terrible poo poo they can grab in 6 hours and my god, they get everything. It's so good. Every time Euron was on screen I was howling.
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Das Boo posted:My enjoyment of GOT skyrocketed after the series finale. Before it was a show with some really good elements and some really poo poo elements, but I've never seen such sheer contempt for an audience and its source material as D&D on S8. It's not even train wreck excitement, it's watching two men roll a Katamari ball of all the terrible poo poo they can grab in 6 hours and my god, they get everything. GoT is one of those cases like the Super Mario Bros Move, Mortal Kombat: Annihilation, and the Last Airbender, where the problems stem not from incompetence but rather an intentional, active desire to do some wacky, baffling and nonsensical poo poo. i would love to see some behind the scenes expose on the decisions that the showrunners made, why they made them, and how everyone else reacted to said decisions. i'm sure poo poo would be just fascinating 
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Mar 17, 2023 10:09
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Well there is that behind the scenes thing were the Varys actor looks completely disgusted at the table read and I think he threatens to quit at one point.
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Mar 17, 2023 10:32
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And poor Emilia Clarke mugging at Kit Harington as she sinks down, down, down in her chair. God bless the cast. I'm glad the fans didn't blame them for that shitshow because they were more the victims than any of us.
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Mar 17, 2023 10:36
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yeah i've also seen stuff like tyrion's actor making fun of his character hiding in the cemetery to escape the whyte walkers, but these were just snippets. i want an entire goddamned DOCUMENTARY 
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Mar 17, 2023 10:47
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You know what? A fair want.
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Mr Interweb posted:GoT is one of those cases like the Super Mario Bros Move, Mortal Kombat: Annihilation, and the Last Airbender, where the problems stem not from incompetence but rather an intentional, active desire to do some wacky, baffling and nonsensical poo poo. i would love to see some behind the scenes expose on the decisions that the showrunners made, why they made them, and how everyone else reacted to said decisions. i'm sure poo poo would be just fascinating It did explain a lot that the directors were Hollywood failsons who had never directed anything before, and apparently once they ran out of material to adapt had literally no concept of like, entertainment. I'd love to see some postmortems on those. I know a lot about the original SMB movie and how the directors (the creators of Max Headroom) wanted cyberpunk with dinosaurs while Nintendo wanted a Super Mario Bros movie. Apparently no one involved has anything good to say about the directors.
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bone emulator posted:Well there is that behind the scenes thing were the Varys actor looks completely disgusted at the table read and I think he threatens to quit at one point. There’s another one with Emilia Clarke going “Best Season Ever!” like she’s in a hostage situation
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I'm a fan of Kit Harington being asked to describe the season in one word and, after a long pause, responding "Disappointing." Also this.
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I was thinking about how great Married With Children was, and it is kinda surprising that it hasn't been rebooted/continued for streaming, considering how popular it was. But then I wondered if you could even do that show these days or how much you'd have to change, and then would it even be the same show? Interested to hear what people think.
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Mr Interweb posted:GoT is one of those cases like the Super Mario Bros Move, Mortal Kombat: Annihilation, and the Last Airbender, where the problems stem not from incompetence but rather an intentional, active desire to do some wacky, baffling and nonsensical poo poo. i would love to see some behind the scenes expose on the decisions that the showrunners made, why they made them, and how everyone else reacted to said decisions. i'm sure poo poo would be just fascinating Why is Last Airbender on this list? There's no way its shittiness was the result of anything but the utmost ineptitude. (I'm of course referring to the live action film and not the excellent animated series.)
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Alan_Shore posted:I was thinking about how great Married With Children was, and it is kinda surprising that it hasn't been rebooted/continued for streaming, considering how popular it was. But then I wondered if you could even do that show these days or how much you'd have to change, and then would it even be the same show? Interested to hear what people think. The thing about MwC that I gathered from behind the scenes specials and decisions made on the show (Seven, the multiple stealth pilots for spinoffs) is that the producers on it were idiots who were successful in spite of their decisions. A modern remake would have to really thread the needle to make it not be some lame culture war thing. It would be way too easy to make Al some kind of chud or to make Marcy an annoying parody of woke feminists or whatever. Or to go too far the other way in playing it safe and sanding off the edge.
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Mantis42 posted:The thing about MwC that I gathered from behind the scenes specials and decisions made on the show (Seven, the multiple stealth pilots for spinoffs) is that the producers on it were idiots who were successful in spite of their decisions. I doubt they can do it without it being like this. I hope that rumored animated revival doesn’t happen.
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Mr Interweb posted:yeah i've also seen stuff like tyrion's actor making fun of his character hiding in the cemetery to escape the whyte walkers, but these were just snippets. i want an entire goddamned DOCUMENTARY There was a behind-the-scenes book called Fire Cannot Kill A Dragon published, although I think there were a lot of fans that wanted it to be more hard-hitting and gossipy. https://tvline.com/2020/10/06/game-of-thrones-new-book-secrets-emilia-clarke-kit-harington/ A lot of the actors seem pretty tight-lipped about their real feelings on things, and rightfully so, because badmouthing your bosses is a good way to not get hired for other things. I doubt we'll hear many bombshells for a good long time. Seems like everyone wants to remain professional about things, even though it's clear Martin and HBO really wanted to keep the show going
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the mario bros '93 movie is good actually it'll definitely be better than the hyper focus tested rear end chris pratt mario movie
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BoosterDuck posted:the mario bros '93 movie is good actually
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BoosterDuck posted:the mario bros '93 movie is good actually I didn’t like it as a kid but now I appreciate how weird it is. It’s better than the 95 Mortal Kombat movie imo.
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Yeah I saw the Mario movie for the first time a few years back and was pleasantly surprised. It's not amazing but there was quite a lot of love and effort in the production that somehow shines through any schlock. It was especially refreshing to not be bombarded with CGI. Another notable show that went from good to crap was Dexter, though in a lot of ways I've come to appreciate the terrible latter seasons for the fun journey of hate watching and the great conversations that were had making GBS threads on the entire thing. In hindsight if the show had merely become OK to decent, it probably would've simply died a quiet death and we'd have lost out.
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I dipped as soon as there was a season finale that introduced a baby/pregnancy, was that the right spot?
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Sentient Data posted:I dipped as soon as there was a season finale that introduced a baby/pregnancy, was that the right spot? It looks like that was season 3, which means you dipped out one too early. You gotta at least watch the John Lithgow season 4. It doesn't go immediately to poo poo in 5 but if the show was just the first 4 seasons it would probably be remembered pretty fondly.
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SeANMcBAY posted:I didn’t like it as a kid but now I appreciate how weird it is. It’s better than the 95 Mortal Kombat movie imo. What the actual gently caress Sentient Data posted:I dipped as soon as there was a season finale that introduced a baby/pregnancy, was that the right spot? Season 4 was legit amazing and I'll never forget "shut up, oval office" as long as I live
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Alan_Shore posted:What the actual gently caress MK95 boring as hell. Watch it again.
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Happy Landfill posted:There was a behind-the-scenes book called Fire Cannot Kill A Dragon published, although I think there were a lot of fans that wanted it to be more hard-hitting and gossipy. It's like the interviews Jon Boyega and Oscar Isaac had to do during the PR blitz for Rise of Skywalker, where they made it clear they were so thrilled about the movie and so thrilled with how their characters turned out. And how they'd never do it again.
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SeANMcBAY posted:MK95 boring as hell. Watch it again. MK 95 had the classic Raul Julia line "for me it was Tuesday"
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The X-man cometh posted:MK 95 had the classic Raul Julia line "for me it was Tuesday" That was Street Fighter gosh darnit! SeANMcBAY posted:MK95 boring as hell. Watch it again. I have, many times. It's exactly what you want from a MK movie with an absolutely killer soundtrack and fantastic fight scenes. Very faithful to the games. Much better than the disappointing recent reboot. In contrast the Mario movie is weird embarrassing poo poo that you'd go to watch at the cinema to laugh at while high
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Alan_Shore posted:That was Street Fighter gosh darnit! Alan_Shore posted:I have, many times. It's exactly what you want from a MK movie with an absolutely killer soundtrack and fantastic fight scenes. Very faithful to the games. Much better than the disappointing recent reboot. The movie new exactly what sort of fun trash it was and nailed it. Honestly I'm not entirely sure what other tone would really work with a mortal kombat. Maybe with a touch more blood. But the game it self is based off a lot of b-grade movie trash -and Bruce Lee films- so like it fits.
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The key is that Mortal Kombat is indeed literally just a cheesy martial arts movie, and back in the 90s they still knew how to make those.
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Howard Beale posted:It's like the interviews Jon Boyega and Oscar Isaac had to do during the PR blitz for Rise of Skywalker, where they made it clear they were so thrilled about the movie and so thrilled with how their characters turned out. And how they'd never do it again. That was so hard to watch  you could Boyega was so disappointed with what they did with Finn
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I said it in the Online Creators thread, but Rise of Skywalker was basically an act of cowardice by committee. Al Jean is just a lovely boomer fuckhead who wouldn’t know quality comedy if it punched him in the dick. JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy et al made sure to bend over backwards to accommodate the whims of a bunch of screeching white supremacist gammons because they whined about a woman of colour daring to exist onscreen for about 11 minutes in a 150+ minute film.
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just mad the sequel trilogy never lived up to hype from the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtapgIxllc8
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Apparently most execs while also being basically space aliens are also extremely online and genuinely concerned about what people are whining about on Twitter, which explains a lot about Stars Wars sequels and also WB/DC blowing up their own movie series and ejecting the director that made them billions of dollars because of some weirdos whining on twitter. Everything about the Flash movie sounds like it's going to be superhero Rise of Skywalker, but also indelibly focusing on a crazy sex offender.
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Alan_Shore posted:That was Street Fighter gosh darnit! And that's exactly why MK is boring and SMB is interesting.
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Street Fighter is a terrible Street Fighter movie, but a great GI Joe movie, and worth watching for Raul Julia alone.
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My take as someone who didn't watch either of them until sometime in the last few years: MK: I can see how kids who loved the games were probably enthralled by it back in the day, but it is clearly specifically for them and that place and time. A "you had to be there" kind of thing. It's just boring and forgettable shlock now. Mario Bros: It's weird and also bad, but at least in a really interesting way. Both were "one and done"'s for me.
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Keromaru5 posted:Street Fighter is a terrible Street Fighter movie, but a great GI Joe movie, and worth watching for Raul Julia alone. I don't know that much about Street Fighter's general tone and stories but it feels like going all GI Joe with it isn't entirely unfitting.
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Ror posted:It looks like that was season 3, which means you dipped out one too early. You gotta at least watch the John Lithgow season 4. It doesn't go immediately to poo poo in 5 but if the show was just the first 4 seasons it would probably be remembered pretty fondly. Dexter having an unexpectedly brilliant season interrupting an otherwise relatively steady decline into utter dross kept me watching far longer than I should have, like an idiot at a slot machine waiting for that next big payout.
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