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bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Hyrax Attack! posted:

100%, I’m almost done with a rewatch and had forgot so much like how Hamsterdam had some good ideas but they didn’t ignore how Bunny (despite best intentions) really hadn’t thought it through. Or how the actor who played Gene on Breaking Bad is a recurring character in S5.

If you haven’t already be sure to read The Corner & Homicide: Life on the Killing Streets, excellent stand alone books and give a ton of background on what went into the Wire. All the Pieces Matter: The Inside Story of The Wire is also fascinating, and has lots of fun stories like how locals blasting music would ignore the production, but would turn it down if Method Man asked. Or how Bubbles’ actor Andre Royo got annoyed when he’d be dressed and acting normally at events and be constantly congratulated for having kicked his fictional drug habit. Or how at the start of production Idris Elba wasn’t well known but by S3 women would be screaming at him from windows.

We Own This City is also worth your time, it’s not a Wire sequel but is well done.

We Own This City is one of those that I know I should watch, but I think it might hit a little too close to home, having dealt with that department growing up. I didn't have any horrible interactions, but I had more than a few negative ones growing up in the area.

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US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah
Watch We Own This City if you need 6 hours worth of Jon Bernthal hollerin in hard bawlmerese

We's up 'ere an got some earl all in your raddiator hun

edit:
am - bu - lance

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

US Berder Patrol posted:

Watch We Own This City if you need 6 hours worth of Jon Bernthal hollerin in hard bawlmerese

We's up 'ere an got some earl all in your raddiator hun

edit:
am - bu - lance

I heard his accent, and was impressed.
Turns out he was from MD, so he is very familiar with it.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


We Own This City was very good.

Rage inducing too considering it's all true.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Saul Kain posted:

I saw what you did there. :golfclap:



whats this god it looks familiar

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
I hope the country takes the call to violence seriously this time. I don't think he has enough supporters to pull another January 6th but I'd rather we just believe the fascists when they tell us who they are and do some cracking down on people that actually need and deserve it instead of more homeless, immigrants, trans people and minorities.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Handsome Ralph posted:

We Own This City was very good.

Rage inducing too considering it's all true.

Oh for sure, it’s fascinating how bad Baltimore politics were/are that didn’t make it into the show. One recent mayor got caught stealing gift cards for the needy, another made the city buy thousands of copies of her children’s book. And for the cops there was that drug officer who videotaped himself planting evidence because he didn’t read the manual for his body cam, and I think that led to tons of cases he’d worked on being thrown out.

Saul Kain
Dec 5, 2018

Lately it occurs to me,

what a long, strange trip it's been.


Milo and POTUS posted:

whats this god it looks familiar

Die Hard 3

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

bird food bathtub posted:

I hope the country takes the call to violence seriously this time. I don't think he has enough supporters to pull another January 6th but I'd rather we just believe the fascists when they tell us who they are and do some cracking down on people that actually need and deserve it instead of more homeless, immigrants, trans people and minorities.

I'm sure the cops will get right on it

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Oh for sure, it’s fascinating how bad Baltimore politics were/are that didn’t make it into the show. One recent mayor got caught stealing gift cards for the needy, another made the city buy thousands of copies of her children’s book. And for the cops there was that drug officer who videotaped himself planting evidence because he didn’t read the manual for his body cam, and I think that led to tons of cases he’d worked on being thrown out.

I interacted with baltimore cops recently, they have to introduce themselves on bodycam before they start talking to you and put a disclaimer out that they are recording.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
I honestly don't know if Trump getting arrested helps or hurts him for the primary. I feel like it helps him there???

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

US Berder Patrol posted:

Watch We Own This City if you need 6 hours worth of Jon Bernthal hollerin in hard bawlmerese

We's up 'ere an got some earl all in your raddiator hun

edit:
am - bu - lance

Just looked it up and it's starring Jamie Hector, gonna grab that now. Love that dude's work.

Cool Dad
Jun 15, 2007

It is always Friday night, motherfuckers

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Oh for sure, it’s fascinating how bad Baltimore politics were/are that didn’t make it into the show. One recent mayor got caught stealing gift cards for the needy, another made the city buy thousands of copies of her children’s book. And for the cops there was that drug officer who videotaped himself planting evidence because he didn’t read the manual for his body cam, and I think that led to tons of cases he’d worked on being thrown out.

Wasn't at least one of these mayors portrayed in We Own This City?

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Never let it be said ze Germans don't have a sense of humour:

"Silicon Valley brings Disruption to Global Finance"

https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...68-8a54d83051eb

AtraMorS
Feb 29, 2004

If at the end of a war story you feel that some tiny bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie

Cool Dad posted:

Wasn't at least one of these mayors portrayed in We Own This City?
Catherine Pugh (the one with the children's book scam). It's been a minute since I've seen it, but I believe part of the storytelling framing is that Freddie Gray's murder and the subsequent protests bring in a federal investigation, which overlaps with the transition from Stephanie Rawlings-Blake to Pugh.

David Simon's covered the other one too though. If Carcetti in The Wire is a bit of a stand-in for Martin O'Malley, then Nerese Campbell would be Sheila Dixon, she of the gift card theft.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Milo and POTUS posted:

I'm sure the cops will get right on it

You say this, but didn't we get some fun footage of cops in riot gear beating up chuds once the DC Police was finally allowed to go in on 1/6?

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Never let it be said ze Germans don't have a sense of humour:

"Silicon Valley brings Disruption to Global Finance"

https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...68-8a54d83051eb

You weren't kidding:

"Even Donald Trump Jr. made a desperate grab for the beloved spotlight he once bathed in, tweeting "SVB is what happens when you push a leftist/woke ideology and have that take precedent over common sense business practices." He ran out of characters before he could mention that it was his own father who loosened tighter regulations for smaller banks."

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

fknlo posted:

I honestly don't know if Trump getting arrested helps or hurts him for the primary. I feel like it helps him there???

Highly likely helps, because even Desantis and Pence are all like LIBERAL GOVERNMENT OVERREACH THIS IS AN OUTRAGE FREE TRUMP while they're all secretly wishing he's locked up all campaign. To be the man, you've got to beat the man, and no non-Trump is even getting close to a majority of the currently-constituted primary electorate.

But Donnie's "indict me and I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" routine is pretty funny when the insiders are pointing out he's scared shitless of getting arrested. Probably saw Vince McMahon get arrested one too many times on teevee. Also, it's not like a general electorate will go "why yes, I will happily vote for the indicted ex-president"!

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

facialimpediment posted:

Highly likely helps, because even Desantis and Pence are all like LIBERAL GOVERNMENT OVERREACH THIS IS AN OUTRAGE FREE TRUMP while they're all secretly wishing he's locked up all campaign. To be the man, you've got to beat the man, and no non-Trump is even getting close to a majority of the currently-constituted primary electorate.

But Donnie's "indict me and I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" routine is pretty funny when the insiders are pointing out he's scared shitless of getting arrested. Probably saw Vince McMahon get arrested one too many times on teevee. Also, it's not like a general electorate will go "why yes, I will happily vote for the indicted ex-president"!

It's all deflection from him, which is nothing new.

It's the embodiment of that dril "I'm not mad please don't write in the paper I'm mad" tweet.

What's amazing is the number of times if he had just taken one or two seemingly simple (to most people) steps how this all could have been avoided. As Stephen A. Smith said, if he'd had just said "Wear a mask", he probably wins. When he lost, if he had just hosed off for a couple years to the golf course and speaking tour, maybe he'd have avoided some of this. But he was too drat dumb and we're all better for it.

As for DeSantis, :lol: that the Trumpers are begging him to block extradition and loving :lol: if he's going to do that.

E-

Hyrax Attack! posted:

100%, I’m almost done with a rewatch and had forgot so much like how Hamsterdam had some good ideas but they didn’t ignore how Bunny (despite best intentions) really hadn’t thought it through. Or how the actor who played Gene on Breaking Bad is a recurring character in S5.

If you haven’t already be sure to read The Corner & Homicide: Life on the Killing Streets, excellent stand alone books and give a ton of background on what went into the Wire. All the Pieces Matter: The Inside Story of The Wire is also fascinating, and has lots of fun stories like how locals blasting music would ignore the production, but would turn it down if Method Man asked. Or how Bubbles’ actor Andre Royo got annoyed when he’d be dressed and acting normally at events and be constantly congratulated for having kicked his fictional drug habit. Or how at the start of production Idris Elba wasn’t well known but by S3 women would be screaming at him from windows.

We Own This City is also worth your time, it’s not a Wire sequel but is well done.

Even Rawls thought Hamsterdam was a good idea, albeit flawed.

"I've got to hand it to you, Bunny. It's brilliant. It's going to cost you your badge, but it's brilliant.

John Doman is a hell of an actor, by the way.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Mar 18, 2023

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



facialimpediment posted:

Also, it's not like a general electorate will go "why yes, I will happily vote for the indicted ex-president"!

wanna bet?

I wonder how the secret service would deal with a protectee in a courtroom.

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Midjack posted:

wanna bet?

I wonder how the secret service would deal with a protectee in a courtroom.

A courtroom won't be much of a problem, incarceration will be something else. Honestly because of his status I can see a form of house arrest the worst he ever sees

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
File this under "everybody knew but it's still infuriating to hear it confirmed as fact."

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1637193295016210440

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

Midjack posted:

wanna bet?

I wonder how the secret service would deal with a protectee in a courtroom.

The sickos part of me kind of wants to see exactly how much of country actually would

And there's a reasonable chance I could, what a time to be alive

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Flikken posted:

A courtroom won't be much of a problem, incarceration will be something else. Honestly because of his status I can see a form of house arrest the worst he ever sees

Federal prison cell with 1 hour a day "exercise" and he's plenty safe.

The 3 x 8 hour secret service details on the camera so he can't off himself. Or stroke out on the floor.

Seems very reasonable to me, and a lot better than he deserves.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Midjack posted:

wanna bet?

We're not even scratching the surface of the level of crazy that's going to happen with the Republican House and the upcoming primary yet. The general electorate isn't going to hear the end of it in the general, and it's the same rough electorate that BARELY put Republicans in charge, in a squeaker, because NY Democrats suck.

The normie will win the general. Donnie may/may not be under multiple indictments while baseline rambling about transmurder and the 2020 election while DeSantis is actively banning books and vaccines.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
The economy is about to poo poo itself hard and even before that, the best opinions of Biden are basically "eh." The GOP primaries are going to be the most interesting part of this election.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Godholio posted:

The economy is about to poo poo itself hard

You know, it’s funny that this keeps coming up. Corporate profits are still at record levels, just not growing as fast. Yet everyone seems to be convincing themselves that the economy is about to go off a cliff, and laying off people and cutting costs to get ahead of it. But it’s those cuts to employment and spending that are going to cause the recession everyone is afraid of. Predicting the economy is like predicting the patterns of herd animals in a sense, but it really feels like there are folks actively steering us towards the cliff here.

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

You know, it’s funny that this keeps coming up. Corporate profits are still at record levels, just not growing as fast. Yet everyone seems to be convincing themselves that the economy is about to go off a cliff, and laying off people and cutting costs to get ahead of it. But it’s those cuts to employment and spending that are going to cause the recession everyone is afraid of. Predicting the economy is like predicting the patterns of herd animals in a sense, but it really feels like there are folks actively steering us towards the cliff here.

This is generally my take as well. Yes, the southwest US is tanking because of high housing prices, a collapsing tech bubble, and no water(or way too much), and a couple ports that can’t get their poo poo together, but that is not indicative of the rest of the national and international economy.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer
The tech sector is likely seeing a recession due to higher interest rates but whole swaths of the rest of the economy are humming along fine.

But the tech sector also has a lot of high visibility, highly plugged in individuals who have outsized ability to create a narrative.


They’re also whiny as gently caress. Especially the VC/hustle culture crowd who’ve never, ever seen an economy without essentially free money before.

Love how they’re all “go start a business” when conditions are absolutely perfect for their sector. Go start a business now you fucks. Oh, systemic issues are getting in the way? Facing some headwinds and difficulties? Join the loving club.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


AreWeDrunkYet posted:

You know, it’s funny that this keeps coming up. Corporate profits are still at record levels, just not growing as fast. Yet everyone seems to be convincing themselves that the economy is about to go off a cliff, and laying off people and cutting costs to get ahead of it. But it’s those cuts to employment and spending that are going to cause the recession everyone is afraid of. Predicting the economy is like predicting the patterns of herd animals in a sense, but it really feels like there are folks actively steering us towards the cliff here.

Corproate profits are not the same as "the economy"

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I’ve read some interesting takes that what we’re seeing as inflation now could be even more accelerated inflation as a result of generationally long money printing.

I only took the basic economics course needed for gen ed, so I’m in no way an expert here… But there is precedent. Not recent U.S. precedent but recent other national precedents.

My big take away is we absolutely do not want this war the hawks are going on about with the PRC to happen. If you want to see 100% of everything go to gently caress faster than you can say “Reds over the Rhein!” In 1989 then let hostilities commence between the PRC and the U.S. and it’s Allie’s.

Holy gently caress that would be awful.

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

SerthVarnee posted:

You weren't kidding:

"Even Donald Trump Jr. made a desperate grab for the beloved spotlight he once bathed in, tweeting "SVB is what happens when you push a leftist/woke ideology and have that take precedent over common sense business practices." He ran out of characters before he could mention that it was his own father who loosened tighter regulations for smaller banks."

You know, I was thinking the other day that a truly woke bank wouldn’t have peter thiel as a customer (either by choice or his own opting out)…which in this case literally would have prevented the bank run

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
"The Economy" will be bad when rich people say it is. It is and has been loving poo poo for decades for a lot of, I'd even believe most though that's stretching, people. It's just not the people that belong to the class that gets to produce propaganda and purchase narratives.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

I’ve read some interesting takes that what we’re seeing as inflation now could be even more accelerated inflation as a result of generationally long money printing.

I only took the basic economics course needed for gen ed, so I’m in no way an expert here… But there is precedent. Not recent U.S. precedent but recent other national precedents.

My big take away is we absolutely do not want this war the hawks are going on about with the PRC to happen. If you want to see 100% of everything go to gently caress faster than you can say “Reds over the Rhein!” In 1989 then let hostilities commence between the PRC and the U.S. and it’s Allie’s.

Holy gently caress that would be awful.

A war between the US and China would be awful for everyone involved even if it doesn’t go nuclear. In addition to a ton of lives lost in Taiwan, Korea, Japan, etc. the global economy would absolutely loving tank in ways I don’t think economists in either the US or China have even gotten around to thinking about because the first-order effects are bad enough. That said, China is becoming increasingly bellicose and the probability of a miscalculation that escalates continues to grow.

bird food bathtub posted:

"The Economy" will be bad when rich people say it is. It is and has been loving poo poo for decades for a lot of, I'd even believe most though that's stretching, people. It's just not the people that belong to the class that gets to produce propaganda and purchase narratives.

Especially when you compare the gap between worker productivity and wages, it’s been clear that decades of economic growth have been borne on the backs of the middle class on downward. I sure as poo poo don’t feel like it’s a good economy if my wages have been relatively stagnant since 2016.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

bird food bathtub posted:

"The Economy" will be bad when rich people say it is. It is and has been loving poo poo for decades for a lot of, I'd even believe most though that's stretching, people. It's just not the people that belong to the class that gets to produce propaganda and purchase narratives.

When we're talking about an election, and the electorate's views of likely candidates, I think it's pretty clear that's not what I'm talking about. Interest rates keep climbing while businesses keep pushing "raise prices" button to match, lenders are tightening the belt which is about to start loving people over even further, and as stupid as the bank fiasco is, it's shaking things up. And of course, we have utter morons running Treasury and the Fed.

Can't imagine why I'm not optimistic.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1637151328840433664?t=3FObk-AUWba-0Vm0Lc3mew&s=19

Gee, it'd be a shame if they shot down the helicopter after it left Mar-a-Lago with their cult leader aboard.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

CBJSprague24 posted:

https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1637151328840433664?t=3FObk-AUWba-0Vm0Lc3mew&s=19

Gee, it'd be a shame if they shot down the helicopter after it left Mar-a-Lago with their cult leader aboard.

Is it bad that I'm kind of hoping for them to start poo poo so we can cull the chud herd again?

Wickerman
Feb 26, 2007

Boom, mothafucka!
The outcome I'm looking for is the one where nobody shows up and Trump experiences embarrassment and shame as the US Marshals haul his rear end out of there.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

Godholio posted:

And of course, we have utter morons running Treasury and the Fed.

Can't imagine why I'm not optimistic.

Personally I believe printing 2 trillion $, propping up markets, keeping interest rates near zero for an extended time, not doing anything about raising rates until people went "oh poo poo" and generally using the same economic policy playbook that was used in the 90s will work because

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Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
if we are heading into a crash (and it's always easy to make claims of such) then like too many others it will be due to the excessive greed everywhere. can't have an economic engine if you're starving the actual people who power that engine

the easiest and most obvious solution is to stop letting people run up the high scores on the wealth chart and start actually investing in social welfare and direct cash aid, but lol


in somewhat related news:
Newsom announces $50-million contract to make California’s own brand of insulin

quote:

... Pending approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the deal with Civica would provide the first pharmaceutical product made under the CalRX brand of generic drugs.

Under the deal, a 10-milliliter vial — normally costing $300 — would be made available for the same $30 it costs the state to manufacture and distribute the drug, according to the governor’s office. Newsom’s office said that as a result of such sharply reduced prices, patients who pay out of pocket for insulin would save between $2,000 and $4,000 annually.

...

“Do not be misled. These companies that all of a sudden are jumping over each other to rush in this direction — they’re just providing discount cards,” he said. “Those costs are being borne by the plans. Those costs are being socialized and shifted to everybody else.”

“What this does,” he said, “is a game changer. This fundamentally lowers the cost. Period. Full stop.”

:sickos:

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