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Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave


Jesus christ who already didn't know this.

What their next big scoop, that Israel has nuclear weapons?

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Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

captainbananas posted:

Reagan was a disaster. But we have Nixon to thank for all of it; Reagan didn't bring people in, he brought them back. Or, rather, they carried his idiot-rear end in front of them as a media-friendly totem.


And who do we have to thank for Nixon?

Who literally funded his first congressional campaign and made Nixon his mouthpiece on the House Un-American Activities Committee?

Allen loving Dulles, that's who.

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Another Bill posted:

Jesus christ who already didn't know this.

What their next big scoop, that Israel has nuclear weapons?

sounds like someone could use some media literacy

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

Another Bill posted:

Jesus christ who already didn't know this.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
"see! nyt still does journalism"

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003





not super conspiracy but i thought it was really interesting and theres not really anywhere else to post it

i am harry has issued a correction as of 22:47 on Mar 20, 2023

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

i am harry posted:





not super conspiracy but i thought it was really interesting and theres not really anywhere else to post it

TERPENE

*click*

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



i am harry posted:





not super conspiracy but i thought it was really interesting and theres not really anywhere else to post it

What is the book?

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Shear Modulus posted:

What is the book?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PiHKAL

AntifaSupersoldier
Jul 30, 2003

Reality is what you can get away with
Hell Gem
https://twitter.com/the_Hotstar/status/1634770243779465216:henget:

Ham Cheeks
Nov 18, 2012

Feeling hammy

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Yes this is happening.

What is going on in here? How is this thread even still around. Just working yourselves up to jump at shadows and call every passing dog and cat you see a spook til you’re all so worked up you start bricking dogs and cats

Get help

Here’s a hint… check out what the NY Medical examiner wrote and come back into reality out of tinfoil land

For your own good

sounds like something a spook would say

Ham Cheeks
Nov 18, 2012

Feeling hammy

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Nm I don’t have the energy to commit to this bit. Was trying to have a meltdown but it’s too much work

:hmmyes:

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo
I'm reminded of what George Carlin said years ago. Doesn't a meltdown sound like a really good cheese sandwich? I'm envisioning like a toasted chicken salad sandwich similar to a tuna melt. Not open faced, though

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

Did deep enough and the writer starts Schizo posting about Dionysian mysteries

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Another Bill posted:

Jesus christ who already didn't know this.

What their next big scoop, that Israel has nuclear weapons?

No one in the US knows that.

It might have been published a dozen times already, but we're hooting gibbons who can't and won't accept that our leaders are evil.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Squad run by Dick Cheney assassinated Benazir: Hersh

quote:

WASHINGTON, May 18

A special death squad assassinated Pakistans former prime minister Benazir Bhutto on the orders of former US vice-president Dick Cheney, claims an American investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.

Mr Hersh, a Washington-based journalist who writes for the New Yorker magazine and other prominent media outlets, also claims that the former vice-president was running an “executive assassination ring” throughout the Bush years. The cell reported directly to Mr Cheney.

In an interview to an Arab television channel, Mr Hersh indicated that the same unit killed Ms Bhutto because in an interview with Al Jazeera TV on Nov 2, 2007, she had said she believed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was already dead. She said she believed Omar Saeed Sheikh, an Al Qaeda activist imprisoned in Pakistan for killing US journalist Daniel Pearl had murdered Bin Laden.

But the interviewer, veteran British journalist David Frost, deleted her claim from the interview, Mr Hersh said.

The controversial US journalist told Gulf News on May 12 he believed Ms Bhutto was assassinated because the US leadership did not want Bin Laden to be declared dead.The Bush administration wanted to keep Bin Laden alive to justify the presence of US army in Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, Mr Hersh said.

The Pulitzer prize-winning American journalist claimed that the unit also killed former Lebanese prime minister Rafique Al Hariri and the army chief of that country.

Mr Hariri and the Lebanese army chief were murdered for not safeguarding US interests and refusing to allow US to set up military bases in Lebanon. Ariel Sharon, the then prime minister of Israel, was also a key man in the plot, Mr Hersh said.

According to Mr Hersh, Lt-Gen Stanley McChrystal who was last week named the new commander in charge of US forces in Afghanistan, ran the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), an elite unit so clandestine that the Pentagon for years refused to acknowledge its existence.

Gen McChrystal, a West Point graduate and a Green Beret, is currently director of Staff at the Pentagon, the executive to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

A media report noted that most of what Gen. McChrystal has done over a 33-year career remains classified, including service between 2003 and 2008 as commander of the JSOC.

On July 22, 2006, Human Rights Watch issued a report titled 'No blood, no foul' about American torture practices at three facilities in Iraq. One of them was Camp Nama, which was operated by JSOC, under the direction of then Major Gen. McChrystal.

Gen McChrystal was officially based at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, but he was a frequent visitor to Camp Nama and other Special Forces bases in Iraq and Afghanistan where forces under his command were based.

An interrogator at Camp Nama known as Jeff described locking prisoners in shipping containers for 24 hours at a time in extreme heat; exposing them to extreme cold with periodic soaking in cold water; bombardment with bright lights and loud music; sleep deprivation; and severe beatings.

When he and other interrogators went to the colonel in charge and expressed concern that this kind of treatment was not legal, and that they might be investigated by the military's Criminal Investigation Division or the International Committee of the Red Cross, the colonel told them he had “this directly from Gen McChrystal and the Pentagon that there's no way that the Red Cross could get in”.

On March 11, Mr Hersh told a seminar at the University of Minnesota that the unit Mr Cheney headed was very deeply involved in extra-legal operations.

“It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently,” he explained. “They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office ... Congress has no oversight of it ... It's an executive assassination ring essentially, and it's been going on and on and on.”

Mr Hersh said “Under President Bush's authority, they've been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That's been going on, in the name of all of us.”

Although Mr Cheney had ignored such allegations in the past, recently he began responding to these charges, making counter-allegations against the Obama administration.

Last week in particular, Mr Cheney appeared almost daily on popular talk shows and also delivered a formal address at the American Enterprise Institute on the importance of interrogation techniques widely considered to be torture. Once known for his reticence and low profile, Mr Cheney has now become his party's most audible voice.

Media commentators, however, attribute his sudden exuberance to the fear that if he did not defend himself, he might be prosecuted for authorising torture.

“Mr Cheney knew, when he began his media assault, that the worst of the horrors inflicted upon detainees at his specific command are not yet widely known,” said one commentator. “If the real stuff comes into full public light, he feared the general outrage will be so furious and all-encompassing that the Obama administration will have no choice but to ... seek prosecutions of those Bush-era officials who specifically demanded those barbaric acts be inflicted upon prisoners.”

One blogger wrote that Mr Cheney not only authorised water-boarding, putting prisoners in confined spaces, pushing them, slapping them, putting bugs on them or demeaning them and their religious faith.

He quoted former US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld as telling a congressional panel in July of 2004 that if pictures of such acts were “released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse”.

Mr Hersh recently gave a speech to the American Civil Liberties Union making the charge that children were sodomised in front of women in the prison, and the Pentagon had tape of it.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010




lol at the idea that obama would ever give in to public anger to prosecute any of them

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
I just started reading The Jakarta Method and lmfao at the name Kermit Roosevelt.

borgnar
Dec 30, 2018
it sort of adds a layer of surreal disbelief that the dude that organized the coup against mossadegh was named kermit, definitely

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

War and Pieces posted:

Did deep enough and the writer starts Schizo posting about Dionysian mysteries

Welp guess we'll have to wait for Bob Woodward to write about it :laffo:

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

I just started reading The Jakarta Method and lmfao at the name Kermit Roosevelt.

Don't forget his nickname was Kim

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Has anyone heard of this?

The Secret War Against Sweden: US and British Submarine Deception in the 1980s

Following the stranding of a Soviet Whiskey-class submarine in 1981 on the Swedish archipelago, a series of massive submarine intrusions took place within Swedish waters.

However, the evidence for these appears to have been manipulated or simply invented. Classified documents and interviews point to covert Western, rather than Soviet activity. This is backed up by former US Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, who stated that Western "testing" operations were carried out regularly in Swedish waters. Royal Navy submarine captains have also admitted to top-secret operations.

Ola Tunander's revelations make it clear that the United States and Britain ran a "secret war" in Swedish waters. The number of Swedes perceiving the Soviet Union as a direct threat increased from 5-10 per cent in 1980 to 45 per cent in 1983. This Anglo-American "secret war" was aimed at exerting political influence over Sweden. It was a risky enterprise, but perhaps the most successful covert operation of the entire Cold War.

e: Book is on libgen

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Not exactly surprising even if it is shady as hell.
Looks like they were just capitalizing on the Soviets getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
There's probably some creepy Epstein-stuff going on in japan. They announced a new Rurouni Kenshin anime, with the involvment of the original manga author.

https://japantoday.com/category/ent...but-not-america

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

i dunno if this one is getting any play nationwide, but Tony Lazarro, a big time gop political donor is on trial in Minnesota for sex trafficking. its a super weird case and no one's really leaking details, but he had the head of a local college republicans getting underage girls for him supposedly and now she's flipped and is gonna testify against him. he was in deep with the former head of the mn gop Jennifer Carnahan and her now-deceased husband Jim Hagedorn, who up until his death from cancer was my rep in Congress.

it looks like the rest of the local party has managed to keep the stink off them, but it's gonna be interesting to see what names start popping up once the trial starts

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

MonsieurChoc posted:

There's probably some creepy Epstein-stuff going on in japan. They announced a new Rurouni Kenshin anime, with the involvment of the original manga author.

https://japantoday.com/category/ent...but-not-america

Jfc a $1500 fine for possession of 100 child pornography DVD's

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




rouroni kenshin but its scooby doo saying it

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

1999 japan made production and distribution illegal
2014 japan made possession illegal

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG

MonsieurChoc posted:

There's probably some creepy Epstein-stuff going on in japan. They announced a new Rurouni Kenshin anime, with the involvment of the original manga author.

https://japantoday.com/category/ent...but-not-america
You’re not wrong but that article is from 2018

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Azathoth posted:

i dunno if this one is getting any play nationwide, but Tony Lazarro, a big time gop political donor is on trial in Minnesota for sex trafficking. its a super weird case and no one's really leaking details, but he had the head of a local college republicans getting underage girls for him supposedly and now she's flipped and is gonna testify against him. he was in deep with the former head of the mn gop Jennifer Carnahan and her now-deceased husband Jim Hagedorn, who up until his death from cancer was my rep in Congress.

it looks like the rest of the local party has managed to keep the stink off them, but it's gonna be interesting to see what names start popping up once the trial starts

did he kill Paul Wellstone though?

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

AmiYumi posted:

You’re not wrong but that article is from 2018

Yeah, I was trying to do a dramatic reveal of why Watsuki still getting work was not good and more than a bit suspicious.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

The Saucer Hovers posted:

1999 japan made production and distribution illegal
2014 japan made possession illegal

lol those dates are alarmingly recent

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
:discourse:
and they're still producing things like made in abyss, and companies in the west are happily translating them! don't google it.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG

Horizon Burning posted:

and they're still producing things like made in abyss, and companies in the west are happily translating them! don't google it.
Don’t google it, and definitely don’t do a forums search for it and/or “young mouth”

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Bilirubin posted:

did he kill Paul Wellstone though?

always wondered what that one was about

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN
Countries that are or were under post-war occupation by the US tend to be extremely relaxed this issue for obvious troop related reasons.

That being said that excuse dried up for Japan and Europe with the end of the Cold War.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/jkultra23/status/1638834861392941056

fanfic insert
Nov 4, 2009

Frosted Flake posted:

Has anyone heard of this?

The Secret War Against Sweden: US and British Submarine Deception in the 1980s

Following the stranding of a Soviet Whiskey-class submarine in 1981 on the Swedish archipelago, a series of massive submarine intrusions took place within Swedish waters.

However, the evidence for these appears to have been manipulated or simply invented. Classified documents and interviews point to covert Western, rather than Soviet activity. This is backed up by former US Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, who stated that Western "testing" operations were carried out regularly in Swedish waters. Royal Navy submarine captains have also admitted to top-secret operations.

Ola Tunander's revelations make it clear that the United States and Britain ran a "secret war" in Swedish waters. The number of Swedes perceiving the Soviet Union as a direct threat increased from 5-10 per cent in 1980 to 45 per cent in 1983. This Anglo-American "secret war" was aimed at exerting political influence over Sweden. It was a risky enterprise, but perhaps the most successful covert operation of the entire Cold War.

e: Book is on libgen

Some Swedish high ranking Navy dude claimed that in at least one of the incidents the subs spotted were Dutch

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
wait a min there’s new kenshin material?

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/GlenntheGolden1/status/1638792374771142656

lol Jack Chick was an op

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