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genuinely, no idea. I don't recall seeing them before
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An Actual Princess posted:genuinely, no idea. I don't recall seeing them before Huh! Now I'm even more curious. I feel like I conjure a high-def image of them in my mind pretty easily, and that it's just a matter of figuring out where it came from. This makes me wonder if it's purely my imagination, if the blast processing is coming from inside my skull. (First thought: wait, what do the 2016 imps look like? Nope, not that. Uh, that daedra I remember seeing in Tamriel Rebuilt? Nope, not a Vermai. Ask a friend, friend suggests Resident Evil. Well, the Licker is vaguely similar, but the coloring is wrong. And they never seem to stand upright. Am I just thinking of the cover of the newest Blind Guardian album?) Where the hell do I know them from ... edit: vvv Thank you for the reminder that I should check out that show. (Meanwhile, I'm up to "christ am I just mixing in Skyrim's hagravens?" They have the right coloring on body/limbs.) Vavrek fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Mar 13, 2023 |
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Mar 13, 2023 09:58
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looks a lot like some of the monsters in the evil dead show to me, but where they would be from doom-wise, no clue nice video by the way, thank you.
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Mar 13, 2023 10:02
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They kinda look like the Pale Man monster from Pan's Labyrinth, IMO.
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Mar 13, 2023 11:09
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Randalor posted:They kinda look like the Pale Man monster from Pan's Labyrinth, IMO. I showed that to a discord server and got back Pan's Labyrinth, too. I suspect it's a modification even then--the Pale Man didn't have teeth like that and his torso was generally less lean and more distended--but I could buy it being the basis and then modified to be easier to read.
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Mar 13, 2023 11:35
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Light Gun Man posted:looks a lot like some of the monsters in the evil dead show to me, but where they would be from doom-wise, no clue Yeah, definitely reminds me of Eligos. 
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Mar 13, 2023 11:51
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It's a Vampyr, made by Amuscaria for Hell-Forged https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131945-hell-forged-episode-ii-resources-released-project-on-hold/. He just released the assets for public use late last year so not a ton of other wads have used these monsters yet.
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treat posted:It's a Vampyr, made by Amuscaria for Hell-Forged https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131945-hell-forged-episode-ii-resources-released-project-on-hold/. He just released the assets for public use late last year so not a ton of other wads have used these monsters yet. Mystery solved!  (Those all look really cool.) Thanks for that. And thanks to the others for suggestions. I have this growing feeling that I'm so confident I've seen it before because it's an invented memory.
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Mar 13, 2023 20:17
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Thats fair. My first thought when I saw the not-Cacodemons was that they were heavily inspired by the old Langoliers TV movie. Just... not nearly as poo poo CGI.
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An Actual Princess posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtrELyz0KZM thanks for sharing this, loved the hell out of this concept and no idea how you could even plan this out let alone building the whole thing as a doom wad.
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Extra spooky "the game is haunted" detail, if you collect all the artifacts, burn down the house, and progress to the vacant lot with the For Sale sign, you can still open the secret door in the fence but instead of leading to the gas station, it takes you to a gravestone with a qr code. The qr code is an obituary for the guy who "cleaned up" the dead friend's .wad and posted it on the doom forum. Turns out he also died on the same day several months ago, and both obits are side by side (in different Google drive photos) and reference reconnecting with an old high school crush and moving to Illinois with their new partner.   https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wNdWb4JkdaZn2M5B8MhFLrapsYFYvLOv/view?usp=drivesdk
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Yeah that obit confused the hell out of me. I don't know if anyone has a theory to put it all together but it seems like the .pk3 was building itself, and that Steve (the polisher) would have vivid dreams and the dreams would end up in the map without his knowledge somehow. So did the game post itself after the tragedy of Eric and Steve's death? Or is Steve a ghost? But his journal describes him going to work and interacting with Eric's parents after his death. Is this an alternate Steve and Eric, related to the other Steve that he sees winking to him in his mirror? Absolutely loved this experience and I'm still happy and satisfied with things remaining not completely explained but drat is this intriguing and I'd love to hear something that would make it "make sense".
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Mar 14, 2023 21:23
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While I've definitely seen monsters that look more like that guy, I'm also reminded of the Dead Hand from Zelda https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Dead_Hand?file=OoT_Dead_Hand_Model_2.png Toothy corpse is a rich vein
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I'm rereading the thread, and it made me remember an old rumor that I don't think I ever posted here. I'm probably distorting it a little because it's been a while. There was this series of 2D life simulation games called Creatures that was made by Cyberlife and published by Mindscape. You would hatch and raise little guys called Norns, which involved teaching them to communicate and helping them find food and explore their world and so on. The backstory was roughly that an ancient spacefaring race, the Shee, had created the Norns, along with other little guys called Ettins and Grendels, and their environment before moving on to bigger and better things (extinction). Anyway, the second game had 2 oceans in it, and there was lore about there being a sea serpent in one of them. Nobody ever saw it, as far as I know, but they would still talk about how it would DEFINITELY emerge if you just waited long enough. I wonder if anybody ever datamined those games...
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Oh those were such fun games. From what I understand the games have effectively been datamined inside and out. I vaguely recall someone made a COB that was a sea serpent, but it used original art. Other than that, as far as I know there's no art in the game for one.
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Mar 17, 2023 22:10
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I never managed to get those furry little dickheads to learn poo poo
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History Comes Inside! posted:I never managed to get those furry little dickheads to learn poo poo the release version was bugged so after a couple hours their neurochemistry would stop working
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Pogonodon posted:Oh those were such fun games. I feel weirdly thankful to know this. Kid me was bizarrely afraid of that guy.
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tFUCKINGmesis posted:I'm rereading the thread, and it made me remember an old rumor that I don't think I ever posted here. I'm probably distorting it a little because it's been a while. Another weird but true thing is that the little jumpy guys had a raspy speech clip that was actually a crowd chanting "hell no, we won't go" if you reversed it.
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The main thing I remember about Creatures is that they did so well at selling the idea that those creatures were artificial life that the community talked about glitches with creature behavior like mental disorders. I don't remember the name people gave it, but I remember in the first game (the only one I had) there was a glitch where a Norn would just be born without the ability to do anything. Couldn't walk, couldn't speak, couldn't interact, couldn't eat. Basically the only thing they could do was look around and follow the mouse cursor. But rather than treat it like a glitch people talked about it in the same way they'd talk about children with serious disorders, it was actually kinda sweet.
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Chronojam posted:Oh yeah, I played that as a kid. The sea monster is 100% real. If I remember right, you could always very slightly see a tiny part of it maybe? But there were ways to get it to come out by baiting it with fish. Well I'll be damned! I must have blotted it from my mind or something because yep, it's there and it's named Borland.
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Pogonodon posted:Well I'll be damned! I must have blotted it from my mind or something because yep, it's there and it's named Borland. Speaking of urban legends, sniffing around the wiki has led me to a stunning and baffling revelation that feels like I've stumbled across one of these: Not only are the Creatures games on Steam... but they've been getting steady updates over the last couple years, somehow. I have no idea who's doing this or how, I can't find any information about the current developer or how they somehow found the rights, I thought these games were just weird lost abandonware!
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Cleretic posted:I have no idea who's doing this or how, I can't find any information about the current developer or how they somehow found the rights, I thought these games were just weird lost abandonware! https://spilgames.com/creatures-reborn-mobile-age/ Published by BigBen Interactive (now Nacon), developed by Spil Games (now Azerion).
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Grassy Knowles posted:https://spilgames.com/creatures-reborn-mobile-age/ That just raises further questions, because those are neither of the names on the Steam pages. Those list Gameware Europe (who are the company that bought up Creatures Labs, but they've done barely anything else) and Critter Consortium, which the Creatures Wiki calls a one-person studio and for which I can find no details of whatsoever. EDIT: Gameware Europe's website doesn't even mention this apparent mobile version. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Mar 18, 2023 |
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Cleretic posted:That just raises further questions, because those are neither of the names on the Steam pages. Those list Gameware Europe (who are the company that bought up Creatures Labs, but they've done barely anything else) and Critter Consortium, which the Creatures Wiki calls a one-person studio and for which I can find no details of whatsoever. BigBen is listed on the steam page under the system requirements?
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Grassy Knowles posted:BigBen is listed on the steam page under the system requirements? ...that is a very weird thing that I don't think I've ever seen before. Huh.
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I remember hearing about the mobile version, but I thought it ended up being vaporware?
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I remember one Coming Soon from Fishing Cactus that hasn't had a progress update or mention since 2015 or something, was that it? edit: yeah that one died in 2015, spil games picked up the license to release a mobile game in 2017 and that quote:Creatures Family had an original release date of 2017. Spil Games later confirmed, in March 2018, that the game's release had been delayed with no confirmation of a release date. In August 2019 Spil Games stated via email that the game was "no longer in [their] portfolio", and later confirmed in June 2020 that the game is "no longer in development for technical reasons". Pogonodon fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Mar 18, 2023 |
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Vavrek posted:That was great, thanks! I have a question:
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LividLiquid posted:They look ridiculously familiar to me too and I never saw Pan's Labyritnth. Were you a Buffy fan, by chance, 'cause that'd be a lead worth chasing for us if you were. treat posted:It's a Vampyr, made by Amuscaria for Hell-Forged https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131945-hell-forged-episode-ii-resources-released-project-on-hold/. He just released the assets for public use late last year so not a ton of other wads have used these monsters yet.
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Thank you. I never played that, so that's not it either. I mean, it's what it is, it's just not what it reminds me of.
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are you thinking of the Raw Shocks from Silent Hill Shattered Memories?
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Vavrek posted:That was great, thanks! I have a question: I mean, to me, they look quite a lot like extremely normal doom enemies?  They do sorta remind me of Xenomorphs from AvP on the Jaguar too:  !Klams fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Mar 23, 2023 |
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Blockhouse posted:are you thinking of the Raw Shocks from Silent Hill Shattered Memories? I love those things so much just for the idea that these horrifying monsters just want to give you hugs and headpats and just want to protect you from the horrible truth you are trying to discover.
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Those things kinda give me "regenerator from Resident Evil 4" vibes, for whatever that's worth
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Some fun stuff about the old Creatures games! Being a PC game from the mid-90s, most discussion of the games was on the usenet group alt.games.creatures. In 1998, someone posted this:quote:From: regen As mentioned before, the Creatures games are virtual life simulations. I have no idea how this guy got to this group to post about Drowned God. Fortunately for us (unfortunately for this guy?) this is the first reply he received: quote:From: David "I Don't Like SPAM" Wood The Secret Adventure Mode and its definite real existence immediately became a very popular injoke in the Creatures Community, confusing new people for years. This eventually culminated in C12DS — an ambitious mod porting the entirety of the first Creatures game to the last Creatures game (Docking Station) — where following some of David Wood's post allows you to unlock the Secret Sun Pyramid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo1cWC3vVOI
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LividLiquid posted:They look ridiculously familiar to me too and I never saw Pan's Labyritnth. Were you a Buffy fan, by chance, 'cause that'd be a lead worth chasing for us if you were. !Klams posted:I mean, to me, they look quite a lot like extremely normal doom enemies?  I was going by the commentary. I've played the first half of Doom 2016 and, like ... E1M1, probably completed E1M2. I don't really have a good sense of what does and doesn't look like a Doom enemy, even though (if I stop to think about it) I can come up with a pretty decent roster just from all the pictures and videos I've seen over the years. (I just don't know what most of them are called.) --- The reason I'm thinking it was a spontaneously constructed memory is that I had a clear sense of exactly this creature:  but as though from a AAA video game from 2010-2015. I could see the model in my mind's eye, but it wasn't in any environment or context. It was just an immediate "Oh, they're not normal Doom enemies? I guess they were ported from some other series? Oh yeah! Those! Where do I know them from?" My earlier thought, looking (by coincidence) through the bestiary for the Elder Scrolls games, was that I was riffing on the hagravens, but I'm pretty sure I've found the seed now:  The Amaki Blood Trolls of World of Warcraft's Battle for Azeroth expansion have the same pattern of a pale base skin tone, stained red from their calves/forearms down. (Looking at some concept art, it's unclear to me how much the red hands/feet are natural pigmentation versus environmental staining, but it seems distinct from the body painting.) If reading this thread has taught me anything, it's that having a sudden intense recollection of something, and even having it shared by others, isn't exactly proof that it was ever a real thing.
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I have no idea about this creatures game but everything in that response by David wood is delightful
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Tunicate posted:the release version was bugged so after a couple hours their neurochemistry would stop working Which game was that in? I only ever played 3 but it always frustrated me how the norns never seemed to learn anything
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Creatures 2 had one hour stupidity syndrome, reward chemicals were too high or not going away fast enough or something so the norns were constantly being rewarded for every action. Made it very hard to teach the little bastards anything 
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